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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2014, 04:10:14 pm »
I don't get this "birds are dinosaurs" thing.  It seems to me like, by that logic, mammals are reptiles.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2014, 04:40:10 pm »
Birds aren't dinosaurs anymore.  They're birds now.  If they were still dinosaurs, they'd be called dinosaurs.
Mammals aren't vertebrates. They're Mammals now. If they were still vertebrates, they'd be called vertebrates.

Sorry if I seem too snarky but this is the shortest way I could think of to make my point. You don't stop being in the class you evolved from, you become a subclass of it.

Of course, but you're not still technically referred to as your previous class.   You're referred to as your new sub classification.  Like, a textbook would say a ostrich is a bird primarily,  not an ostrich is a subclass of dinosaur.


EDIT:  Meh, this doesn't even matter to the point of the actual OP anyway... but whatever.

So mammals aren't considered amniotes, vertebrates, animals, or eukaryotes anymore? That's interesting.

Eh, that's not what I meant, but it doesn't really matter anyway.  Forget I said anything.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2014, 11:57:28 pm »
Sorry about all that. Arbitrarily writing some taxonomic terms as excluding groups that would otherwise fall within them while others are inclusive just kind of bugs me.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2014, 12:35:55 am »
Know what I'm gonna settle this right now.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2014, 01:49:46 am »
'Kay.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2014, 01:56:02 am »
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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2014, 02:18:08 am »
This whole "dinosaurs and birds" thing.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2014, 12:57:50 pm »
^ LOL  exactly. :p

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2014, 02:44:49 pm »
Birds aren't dinosaurs anymore.  They're birds now.  If they were still dinosaurs, they'd be called dinosaurs.
Mammals aren't vertebrates. They're Mammals now. If they were still vertebrates, they'd be called vertebrates.

Sorry if I seem too snarky but this is the shortest way I could think of to make my point. You don't stop being in the class you evolved from, you become a subclass of it.

But if that's true, then apes ARE monkeys, humans DID evolve from monkeys, and evolutionary scientists have been lying to us the whole time. Which means cdesign proponentsists are right and the human species was created from dirt a few thousand years ago.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2014, 11:21:53 pm »
Yes, strictly speaking, humans are a type of ape and I don't think you'd find a lot of scientists who would argue otherwise.

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Re: South Carolina student charged with wanting to kill dinosaurs
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2014, 09:33:22 am »
I don't think that was his point.