They might be related, but it is not the same.
Read the link. There is no dividing line between LulzSec & Anonymous. What you have is that Anonymous itself was divided on whether or not to do the hack, which they usually are. If that's a disqualifying factor, then they can't claim credit for Steubenville, either.
Additionally, the blame lies on Sony for not protecting their customers. It was inevitable that someone, whether a group or person, would try it.
It is inevitable that someone would eventually succeed, no matter how careful Sony was. We make the job 200 times easier if we sit here & pretend the hackers don't actually do anything wrong. Sony then investigated the matter, improved their security, & mandated a password change. What did Anonymous do? According to me, they hacked the fucking website in the first place, according to you, nothing. Neither is particularly heroic.
And, no, I'm not.
Then you really don't understand something as simple as "Anonymous is no more heroic or villainous than any other group of dickheads with computers"?
Actually, now that I think about it, Anonymous identifies around being hackers, which you would probably ordinarily say makes them bad.
My point is, all groups have their bad actions and bad members.
I said that Anonymous does both good & bad, they are not idealistic in any way. You said they were fucking superheroes.
If you want to say that since LulzSec is just a branch of Anonymous, it's still their fault, then you have to agree with the Republicans that since radical Islam is a part of Islam, all Islamic terrorists are the fault of all of Islam.
It's more like if Mosque A had a bunch of people so it split off to form Mosque B, then it helped Mosque B with practically every bombing it ever performed, made easier by the fact that many of the patrons & leaders were patrons & leaders of both mosques, then both mosques would be part of the same terrorist organization. Only not even that, because these situations aren't even remotely similar.
Of course, you won't agree with that, even though it's the same logic.
I won't agree to it because it's not the same logic, it's a retarded strawman.
Anonymous does more good than bad,
Your claim.
and that makes them good.
Also your claim.