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Thatcher died
« on: April 08, 2013, 08:01:08 am »

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 08:04:27 am »
Just heard about this, came here to post this very thread.  Never thought I'd see the day...

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 08:09:26 am »
Raise your hand if you've been victimized by Maggie Thatcher

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 08:32:06 am »
I am Scottish. I remember the 80s.

DING DONG! THE WITCH IS DEAD by The Wizard of Oz Cast
Munchkins
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!
Mayor
As Mayor of the Munchkin City, In the County of the Land of Oz, I welcome you most regally.
Barrister
But we've got to verify it legally, to see
Mayor
To see?
Barrister
If she
Mayor
If she?
Barrister
Is morally, ethic'lly
Father No.1
Spiritually, physically
Father No. 2
Positively, absolutely
Munchkins
Undeniably and reliably Dead
Coroner
As Coroner I must aver, I thoroughly examined her.
And she's not only merely dead, she's really most sincerely dead.
Mayor
Then this is a day of Independence For all the Munchkins and their descendants
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If any.
Mayor
Yes, let the joyous news be spread The wicked Old Witch at last is dead!

Burn in hell witch.

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 08:36:48 am »
Ah Thatcher, with Reagan and Mulroney the three conservative leaders of the 80s. (At least from my point of view.) My thoughts go out to her family.
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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 09:08:21 am »
Well, obviously her family will be grieving. I honestly don't know much about the private Thatcher- apparently she had a husband, but he's a decade dead already. She may well have been a devoted aunt, sister, a loving member of a family. That's common. People are complex.

I don't want to take a cheap shot at a dead person, but I also think it's inappropriate and insulting to ignore her life's work. That is to say, making others' worse. Demonstrably worse. Smashing labour democracy, serving the powerful, resorting to war, slashing education budgets, shifting the burden of taxes to the poor, driving people out of work, throwing people into the street, backing the Khmer Rouge and apartheid racism in South Africa. Hers was not even a policy that could defend itself on the ground of ignorance. She was well-aware of what she was doing, and she bent her formidable political skill to achieving that goal: a more hard-hearted, mean-spirited society with less for the more and more for less, above all less for women. She thought that was the right thing to do. She was wrong.

Yes, an old, demented* lady has died- but not any old lady. This one killed thousands of people. That's what bad policy means, the deaths of innocent people. Leaders have that responsibility, particularly politically talented, articulate politicians. We should not forget that.

* Is that the right word? I don't mean to be mean here, but she had dementia. Isn't demented the adjective for dementia?
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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 09:14:40 am »
She WAS demented. The last few years she was completely gaga. She thought Dennis ( alcoholic joke of a husband ) was still alive.

Now the Tories are suggesting a STATE FUNERAL!!! Hope they remember to cut her head off after they drive the stake through her heart. Can't be too careful.

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 09:16:51 am »
She can have a state funeral when they abandon austerity and clear her mines out of Cambodia.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/jan/09/cambodia
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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 09:21:54 am »
Meh.

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 09:41:15 am »
My condolences go to her family and friends.

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 09:42:20 am »
One of our major newspapers just said she left "a long shadow across British politics". I disagree. Her kind don't cast shadows.

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2013, 09:46:34 am »
"My condolences go to her family and friends."

Her family? You mean her son Mark Thatcher the arms dealer who was implicated in the Equatorial Guinea coup amongst MANY other things?

Or her friends, Augusto Pinochet, PW Botha, Jimmy Saville  and the Kymer Rouge to name but a few.

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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2013, 09:55:52 am »
"My condolences go to her family and friends."

Her family? You mean her son Mark Thatcher the arms dealer who was implicated in the Equatorial Guinea coup amongst MANY other things?

Or her friends, Augusto Pinochet, PW Botha, Jimmy Saville  and the Kymer Rouge to name but a few.

I dislike what she did. If what you say about Mark Thatcher is true, I dislike what he did. I dislike what the other people you list did. But I am not going to dance on her grave.
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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2013, 10:03:49 am »
I wasn't a big fan of hers, but she did some things right and a lot of things wrong.  She got right Britain's stance on terrorism right, she got the Falklands back (and Fred, I really couldn't give a flying fuck about your opinions on that) and she also was a strong leader when the country had had far too many weak-kneed morons for years.  She went toe-to-toe with Scargill and helped to destroy the idiot left.  She also stood up against the cronyism of her own political establishment (such as the jobs-for-the-boys Oxbridge types) with varying success - MI5 and MI6 are now more open to people from other backgrounds than they ever were before.

On the other hand, she destroyed trade unions (they were tied into what I call the 'idiot left', the ones who saw every strike as the first stage in a socialist revolution and who couldn't see that sometimes what people want is a better deal at work and not social upheaval) with the end result that we've had to fight to get even minimum wage established, she and her friends saw nothing wrong with selling off national institutions and putting people on the dole while they lined their own pockets, she was responsible for the destruction of the inner-city and also for taking away excellent learning opportunities for young people (like apprenticeships) and replacing them with nonsensical ideas like YTS which had no value and the qualifications weren't worth the paper they were printed on.  She screwed the NHS over (she wanted a private healthcare system like the US has) and that mess is still trying to be sorted out, some 23 years after she left power.
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Re: Thatcher died
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2013, 10:04:55 am »
"My condolences go to her family and friends."

Her family? You mean her son Mark Thatcher the arms dealer who was implicated in the Equatorial Guinea coup amongst MANY other things?

Or her friends, Augusto Pinochet, PW Botha, Jimmy Saville  and the Kymer Rouge to name but a few.

And you give condolences to dead people how?
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