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Offline rageaholic

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Now this is different...
« on: March 16, 2012, 04:57:35 pm »
A Jewish Fundie blasting Christians

Usually, it's the Christian fundies blasting everyone else.  I mean, I'm no fan of Christianity, but these accusations of Christians being filled with the spirit of Satan are not any less ridiculous than the crap Christian fundies say.

Just goes to show you how unreliable a literal interpretation of any holy book is. 

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 05:26:43 pm »
About as persuasive as all the bullshit emanating from other religions.
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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 06:18:51 pm »
lol wut the fuck

It's especially funny because according to interpretations of the Book of Job, he is actually under God's command and cannot act without his express permission.
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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 07:06:02 pm »
Ah yes, one of my few (not to be confused with small) problems with Judaism...

...Anyone who converts to Christianity is treated as worse than a traitor.

(I may be exaggerating a bit)

...However, this is still amusing.
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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 07:56:28 pm »
I thought Satan and Hell didn't exist in Judaism.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 10:18:09 pm »
I thought Satan and Hell didn't exist in Judaism.

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Doesn't he... show up in Genesis? >_>

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 10:54:07 pm »
Jews believe in Satan. They don't believe in the Fall. As far as we're concerned, Satan is still up in heaven working for G-d.
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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 11:16:58 pm »
Yep first mention of hell and the 9 circles was Paradise Lost.....not that epic poem called the Divine Comedy.

Ironbite-though it goes back further when you realize where the word "hell" actually came from.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 01:23:32 am »
You're kinda wrong.  9 Circles of Hell were mentioned in the Divine Comedy by Dante first.  Though the concept of hell isn't something new of course.  Every religion has a place of punishment.  Christianity just...stole a lot of it.

Ironbite-their hell is a really patchwork of other hells.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 01:38:01 am »
Yep first mention of hell and the 9 circles was Paradise Lost.....not that epic poem called the Divine Comedy.

Ironbite-though it goes back further when you realize where the word "hell" actually came from.

Sheol?   I think it means "The Grave".  Just nothing but that.  Though when I think about it ceasing to exist entirely sounds worse to me than a hellish afterlife because at least you'd be existing.  I've grown rather accustomed to that.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 01:48:10 am »
Didn't the term "Hell" actually come from "Hel", from Norse mythology?  Or am I totally off here?

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 01:52:29 am »
It could have.  I'm rusty on my religions and mythology.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 02:25:42 am »
Hell, if what my research into the subject tells me, came from an amalgamation of several afterlife punishment stories.  Kinda like how Christianity came bout after stealing from several other religions to form itself.

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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 03:58:26 am »
Have to look out for these prophecies coming true...
http://www.torahandspirit.com.istemp.com/2007prophecy.htm
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Re: Now this is different...
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 08:40:37 am »
Yep first mention of hell and the 9 circles was Paradise Lost.....not that epic poem called the Divine Comedy.

Can't tell if you're telling me that I'm wrong or if you're saying that honestly.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I've never had the chance to read either, and there is a chance that I may not remember correctly >.<

The modern idea of Hell and the 9 circles came from the Divine Comedy. The idea of the Devil being the ruler of Hell and King of Demons came from Paradise Lost, where he says "better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven".