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Title: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: the_ignored on June 10, 2015, 07:29:36 pm
Ken Ham shows (https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2015/06/10/miley-cyrus-which-ark-is-she-rejecting/) that if it wasn't for god-belief, then he himself would see nothing wrong with....bestiality!



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"The article goes on to state,

    Sexually, Cyrus said she is “down with” anything. She views her sexuality and even her gender identity as fluid. “I am literally open to every single thing that is consenting and doesn’t involve an animal and everyone is of age. Everything that’s legal, I’m down with. Yo, I’m down with any adult—anyone over the age of 18 who is down to love me,” she said. “I don’t relate to being boy or girl, and I don’t have to have my partner relate to boy or girl.”

Question for her: Why not involve an animal? On what basis does she decide that? Besides, if there’s no God and she’s just a result of evolution, then she is merely an animal anyway. And those she interacts with sexually are just animals—so why not any animals? In other words, she has decided to draw a line for some reason—but what reason? It’s actually because in her heart she knows God exists (Romans 1), she knows she is different from the animals as she is made in God’s image (Genesis 1)—and she has a conscience (as seared as it is because of her sinful rebellion) because the law is written on our hearts (Romans 2).
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: guizonde on June 10, 2015, 08:03:38 pm
the stupid hurts. also, that counts as stealing arguments and points-of-view.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: niam2023 on June 10, 2015, 08:15:46 pm
Says more about you, Ken, than it does about us.

Also, having God doesn't stop bestiality - just ask Neal Horsely.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 10, 2015, 08:29:36 pm
Fun fact: bestiality is legal in 18 states and territories.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: niam2023 on June 10, 2015, 08:43:42 pm
Cool, I always wanted to marry Jemmy, my sheep.

Wait, Jemmy's a boy sheep. I guess THAT makes it illegal.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Vypernight on June 11, 2015, 04:52:47 am
Fun fact: bestiality is legal in 18 states and territories.

And how many of those are in the, "Bible Belt?"
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 11, 2015, 07:43:18 am
Fun fact: bestiality is legal in 18 states and territories.

And how many of those are in the, "Bible Belt?"

My guess would be somewhere in the neighbourhood of every single fucking one.  You'll be clapped in irons if you want to screw your homosexual lover, but the law won't bat an eye if you happen to fancy your prize hog in that "special" way.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: ironbite on June 11, 2015, 11:35:07 am
And ain't that something to think about?
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 11, 2015, 11:36:26 am
I have for many years, and it still baffles me.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Dakota Bob on June 11, 2015, 01:23:00 pm
Confirmed: Ken Ham is a furry.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Askold on June 11, 2015, 02:38:21 pm
Confirmed: Ken Ham is a furry.
Not all Furries are Zoophiles.

...Who was it here who suggested that all the furries SHOULD became zoophiles because that would "prevent the backlash" that comes when people mistake furries to be zoophiles? Was it Dynamic something?
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 11, 2015, 03:01:01 pm
That was TIM, and that wasn't what he said.  If memory serves, he said that if all furries were zoophiles, then backlash against said zoophiles wouldn't occur.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Askold on June 11, 2015, 03:34:59 pm
That was TIM, and that wasn't what he said.  If memory serves, he said that if all furries were zoophiles, then backlash against said zoophiles wouldn't occur.

Close enough.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: the_ignored on June 13, 2015, 02:05:29 am
Says more about you, Ken, than it does about us.

Also, having God doesn't stop bestiality - just ask Neal Horsely.
I forgot about that guy!
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Askold on June 13, 2015, 02:27:22 am
Says more about you, Ken, than it does about us.

Also, having God doesn't stop bestiality - just ask Neal Horsely Zeus.
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: TheContrarian on June 17, 2015, 02:26:42 pm
That was TIM

(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Tim-monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-591629_800_441.jpg)
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: TheL on August 05, 2015, 07:58:26 pm
Yet another reason to keep him out of my house.  I'm not sure I could trust him around my dog!

Oh wait, Angel's a male dog.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 06, 2015, 12:40:04 am
But remember, without God there's nothing wrong with homosexuality either. So your dog still might be screwed.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: niam2023 on August 06, 2015, 12:50:38 am
Heck, even if there is a God, keep watch on your poor mules.

Neal Horsely's out there.
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: Mister Pine on August 11, 2015, 09:47:39 am
Is this another one of those arguments that says there is no objective morality without God?
Title: Re: Ken Ham: (To paraphrase)...without god, nothing is wrong with bestiality.
Post by: rookie on August 11, 2015, 12:03:05 pm
That's what it sounds like.