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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm upecause of Communists
« Reply #75 on: May 07, 2019, 05:09:11 pm »
What are you talking about? IIRC, the shooter bought his guns in his native Australia. Though that's just what I'm remembering, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
The Australian who shot up Christchurch NZ, think about it for a second willya? Semi Automatic rifles aren't avaliable in Australia because they were banned back in the 90s after a mass shooting on a similar scale in Port Arthur, Tasmania and straight after this mass shooting in Christchurch New Zealand, the NZ Prime Minister held a press conference declaring strict new gun laws.

The terrorist attack demonstrated the weakness of New Zealand gun laws, according to Arden. If she was pissed off about Australia's gun laws believe me she would have been speaking about it then, she's got a rep for being outspoken.

 
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #76 on: May 07, 2019, 11:06:58 pm »
Well, I believe Lana is back.

I would just like to again suggest 'Incandescent Iguana' as the next iteration's name.

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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #77 on: May 07, 2019, 11:55:34 pm »
I'm guessing the next one will just skip the pleasantries and start shrieking "YOU LEFTY COMMIE REAL RACISTS AGAINST WHITE MEN! BAAAAAAAAAAAW!"
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2019, 02:48:07 am »
Wonder if he is getting anxious about the fact we're all being quite mean to his poor wittle Nazi Water Carrying self, and not a one of us got so much as scolded by the mods.
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2019, 04:01:50 am »
Well, I believe Lana is back.

I would just like to again suggest 'Incandescent Iguana' as the next iteration's name.
"Fair and Balanced" is taken?

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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2019, 04:03:52 am »
I do wonder how long it'll be until it becomes obvious the mods are not going to be of any assistance to him.
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2019, 08:21:54 am »
Well, I believe Lana is back.

I would just like to again suggest 'Incandescent Iguana' as the next iteration's name.
"Fair and Balanced" is taken?

Trademarked actually. Though, my money is on Incorrigible Idiot.
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2019, 12:23:12 pm »
Wonder if he is getting anxious about the fact we're all being quite mean to his poor wittle Nazi Water Carrying self, and not a one of us got so much as scolded by the mods.

Buddy, you can't judge that. I don't mean you shouldn't (though that's also true), I mean you can't. Remember that time I dismissed the theories that the New Zealand shooter wasn't far-right, and you thought I was agreeing with them?

See for yourself. And don't bother editing your post to cover up your little mistake. I already archived it.
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2019, 03:21:35 pm »
Wonder if he is getting anxious about the fact we're all being quite mean to his poor wittle Nazi Water Carrying self, and not a one of us got so much as scolded by the mods.

Buddy, you can't judge that. I don't mean you shouldn't (though that's also true), I mean you can't. Remember that time I dismissed the theories that the New Zealand shooter wasn't far-right, and you thought I was agreeing with them?

See for yourself. And don't bother editing your post to cover up your little mistake. I already archived it.

Go stuff it.

I don't give less of a crap what you archive or dig up.
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2019, 06:27:42 pm »
In other news, I've seen some debate about whether the shooter was actually far-right, since he expressed environmentalist and anti-capitalist sentiments in his manifesto. While I haven't read it myself, at least not yet, I'd just like to remind these people that the Nazis were critical of capitalism (considering it one of the methods the Jews used to oppress Germans, surprise surprise), as well as pretty big on animal welfare and protecting the environment.

Hey, I remember Chaos's quote, peddling the same old BS about Hitler being anti capitalist, screw the historical record which shows Nazis and Fascists got their support from big business and looked to middle class and rural voters like a conservative party would, that big business loved them because they suppressed trade unions and one of the first acts of the Nazi government was to ban trade unions in May 2, 1933. Payback perhaps for German industrialists paying the fledgling, purportedly anti capitalist NSDAP's debts when they were broke. Never mind the fact that capital actually did pretty well under the Nazis or that there are plenty of far right loons nicking lefty symbols that aren't fooling anyone.

Except those who really want, or want others to believe that, for the sake of the holy centre (which must be preserved) I guess. Prepare yourselves for pics of Nazi's with anti-capitalist friends incoming...
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2019, 06:34:28 pm »
C'mom Tol, They weren't called the National SOCIALISTS for nothing. Clearly the Nazis were left wing socialists.

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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2019, 06:36:11 pm »
C'mom Tol, They weren't called the National SOCIALISTS for nothing. Clearly the Nazis were left wing socialists.
By the same immutable logic that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Democrats, thanks Obama!

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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2019, 07:07:10 pm »
In other news, I've seen some debate about whether the shooter was actually far-right, since he expressed environmentalist and anti-capitalist sentiments in his manifesto. While I haven't read it myself, at least not yet, I'd just like to remind these people that the Nazis were critical of capitalism (considering it one of the methods the Jews used to oppress Germans, surprise surprise), as well as pretty big on animal welfare and protecting the environment.

Hey, I remember Chaos's quote, peddling the same old BS about Hitler being anti capitalist, screw the historical record which shows Nazis and Fascists got their support from big business and looked to middle class and rural voters like a conservative party would, that big business loved them because they suppressed trade unions and one of the first acts of the Nazi government was to ban trade unions in May 2, 1933. Payback perhaps for German industrialists paying the fledgling, purportedly anti capitalist NSDAP's debts when they were broke. Never mind the fact that capital actually did pretty well under the Nazis or that there are plenty of far right loons nicking lefty symbols that aren't fooling anyone.

Except those who really want, or want others to believe that, for the sake of the holy centre (which must be preserved) I guess. Prepare yourselves for pics of Nazi's with anti-capitalist friends incoming...

You're right, the Nazis were willing to buddy up with capitalists when it suited them. They were also willing to buddy up with communists when it suited them, so I don't know what that proves, except that they believed the enemy of their enemy was their friend.

OK, that was tongue in cheek. More seriously, I said that the Nazis were critical of capitalism, not that they were hardcore anti-capitalists. You're strawmaning me. They were willing to work within a capitalist system, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't criticize it, or that it was their ideal economic system. Many of their seemingly pro-big business policies were borne out of necessity, not as capitalist as they seemed, or both. For example, a lot of people point to Nazi privatization of industries and use it to call them "capitalist". However, not only were they motivated partly by wanting to raise funds (so they could make up for budget deficits caused by their massive military spending), this privatization was applied within a framework of increasing state control over the economy. And AFAIK, they were never in favor of a free market system.

Of course, Nazi ideas about economics were nebulous and inconsistent. Looking at the economy of Nazi Germany, it's a mish-mash of a whole bunch of different ideas.

C'mom Tol, They weren't called the National SOCIALISTS for nothing. Clearly the Nazis were left wing socialists.
By the same immutable logic that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Democrats, thanks Obama!

I never claimed the Nazis were socialists either. Why don't you talk about what I actually said, rather than what you want me to have said?
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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2019, 07:15:22 pm »
C'mom Tol, They weren't called the National SOCIALISTS for nothing. Clearly the Nazis were left wing socialists.
By the same immutable logic that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Democrats, thanks Obama!

I mean just look at the Democratic Republic of Congo. Thanks Obama!

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Re: GOP politician telling people to arm up because of Communists
« Reply #89 on: May 08, 2019, 09:06:47 pm »
A neutrality pact isn't "buddying up" FFS.

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The Pact was terminated on 22 June 1941, when the Wehrmacht launched Operation Barbarossa and invaded the Soviet Union

So, not so much buddies huh. You still get Nazi's "critical of capitalism" but that doesn't mean shit, Nazis are critical of non-Nazi societies because they aren't 100% Nazi not because they're philosophically opposed to property ownership. They're all for property ownership, as long as those owners are honkies.

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Nazi ideology held entrepreneurship in high regard. Private property was considered a precondition to developing the creativity of members of the German race in the best interest of the people.

Yes, we remember what you said. You said this:

I'd just like to remind these people that the Nazis were critical of capitalism (considering it one of the methods the Jews used to oppress Germans, surprise surprise)

Nah, the Nazis were critical of Jews and were just as likely to caricature them as greedy misers as troublemaking commies because...they fucking hated Jews. Learn a new thing every day.