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Title: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 22, 2018, 09:06:28 am
Probably not the place to mention it but why can I not access fstdt anymore?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 22, 2018, 12:39:01 pm
From the error its giving, methinks something's gone screwy with a connection string, somewheres.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 23, 2018, 11:51:52 pm
Yeah its been doing this since the 20th for me. The page only pulls up a bunch of code, its very obviously a database error. I'm not sure how often Shy uses these forums any more or how much of the forums staff is also staff there but whoever knows how to fix this should probably be fixing it up.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 24, 2018, 08:54:06 am
Too bad, I like this site a lot and would do what I could to help.  I hope it bounces back.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2018, 09:01:41 am
When I get the chance in a little bit, I'll see if Shy ain't on Skype or somethin.  Though, some of the little details (like the username given) have changed, so he may be working on it, as we speak.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 24, 2018, 09:14:12 am
When I get the chance in a little bit, I'll see if Shy ain't on Skype or somethin.  Though, some of the little details (like the username given) have changed, so he may be working on it, as we speak.

Thanks for the update.  It's good to have at least an inkling of what's happening.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2018, 08:36:36 pm
I popped a message to Shy on Skype, but he's not online, currently.  I doubt he's unaware of the situation, though, unless some major shit's gone down on his end.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 24, 2018, 09:10:37 pm
Thanks for trying.  Let us know if you hear more.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: niam2023 on April 25, 2018, 12:14:20 am
Seems those whiny shitweasel wannabe serial killers aka the incels have started celebrating.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2018, 10:41:17 am
Seems those whiny shitweasel wannabe serial killers aka the incels have started celebrating.

They won't celebrate long.

There's likely nothing wrong. If something was wrong, it would have been fixed by now.

Maybe the site's getting a cool new redesign.

Oh; I'm back. I promise not to be a jerk, this time. I apologize for my past crankiness and I'll ignore the contrarians on here.

Anyway. It'll be fixed, eventually. There was never any "This site is being shut down." jib jab....So it's temporary.

Since it's taking a long time, Shy's probably going to surprise us with a cool new redesign.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 25, 2018, 08:48:58 pm
Maybe, that or the database just shat itself.  Unfortunately, anyone that's worked with databases long enough knows that's just a thing that kinda...happens, from time to time.  They can be quite sensitive, lol.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on April 26, 2018, 02:03:19 am
Maybe, that or the database just shat itself.  Unfortunately, anyone that's worked with databases long enough knows that's just a thing that kinda...happens, from time to time.  They can be quite sensitive, lol.

Yeah; It'll be fixed, though. I doubt Shy planned on ending the whole thing. It'll be back, soon.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Bob J. on April 26, 2018, 01:52:32 pm
shy was last active on July 5, 2017
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on April 26, 2018, 02:13:04 pm
shy was last active on July 5, 2017

Maybe I'm thinking of someone else....

WHOEVER IS RUNNING FSTDT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT.

Sorry about that.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 26, 2018, 02:18:51 pm
shy was last active on July 5, 2017
That doesn’t make any sense, I know I have seen shy around many times since that date.  Unless that date refers to this forum.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 26, 2018, 05:56:18 pm
It likely only refers to here.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on April 26, 2018, 08:47:14 pm
It likely only refers to here.

Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on April 29, 2018, 11:08:42 am
Darn thing is still down. Someone needs to find Shy and ask her what the heck she is doing and why it's taking so long to fix FSTDT.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 29, 2018, 04:24:39 pm
Alas, I haven't been able to get in contact with 'im.  He's not yet responded on Skype and other than a PM here and/or an email to the admin email account there, I'm outta options, far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 29, 2018, 05:12:04 pm
Could try pyro.  He's a comment approver, he might know something.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 29, 2018, 05:41:53 pm
Dunno how, he deleted his account here.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 29, 2018, 09:06:31 pm
Dunno how, he deleted his account here.
Was that recently?  I talked to him on the main site about a week before it went down.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 29, 2018, 09:18:55 pm
I'm not entirely sure, alas.  I just noticed a while back that his posts had no avatar or anything and his name was black, marking him as a guest instead of a registered user.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 29, 2018, 09:23:35 pm
Another piece of the puzzle perhaps.

He and shy are the only higher ups I know of.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 29, 2018, 10:10:14 pm
I'm not sure how involved the forum/irc higher-ups are with the main site but Sigma and Krad maybe have contact with Shy?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 30, 2018, 10:06:15 am
From what I've seen, the forum/irc and mainpage are separate entities, but they might have comm channels we don't.  I do believe Shy is a teacher, so he may be dealing with finals and whatnot.  They're time-consuming for both ends.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on April 30, 2018, 12:21:33 pm
It's too bad there isn't a place where people could be kept apprised of what's going on...like, if this is just a temporary outage, if they're working on it, or if the site isn't going to continue.  I hope it's nothing that dire.  But there's no info at all.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 30, 2018, 10:10:48 pm
I'm not sure how involved the forum/irc higher-ups are with the main site but Sigma and Krad maybe have contact with Shy?

I don't have any contact with shy, sorry.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 01, 2018, 10:46:10 am
I had noticed in recent weeks it was taking far longer to get submissions approved too.  So...I do fear the news might be bad.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 02, 2018, 06:16:23 pm
I never used IRC before, kicking myself now for it...might that be a good way to reach out to shy or pyro?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 02, 2018, 06:19:12 pm
Going to try a PM to SomeApe too.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 10, 2018, 09:27:39 pm
Seems the RationalWiki page lists FSTDT as defunct now. And it being down for this long feels like to worst has come to pass. Someone might have to start from scratch.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Id82 on May 10, 2018, 09:38:44 pm
Well it's not fully defunct cause the forums are still here. I wonder what happened? Who's in charge over there?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 10, 2018, 10:29:15 pm
I think someone got a bit overzealous over there.  It's still being asked about in the Saloon Bar area over there.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Saloon_bar#FSTDT (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Saloon_bar#FSTDT)
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Jacob Harrison on May 11, 2018, 09:56:58 pm
I’m not sure if it is good news but Fstdt now says “Service Unavailable” instead of server error. Perhaps that means that someone is working on fixing the site.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 12, 2018, 01:16:55 am
I’m not sure if it is good news but Fstdt now says “Service Unavailable” instead of server error. Perhaps that means that someone is working on fixing the site.

I was just going to post the exact same thing.  I'm going to take it as a good sign.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 12, 2018, 09:04:02 am
I spoke too soon.  It’s back to what it was doing before.  Damn.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 12, 2018, 11:23:37 pm
If Shy felt like shutting the site down, he would have told us!

HEY; SHY! COME OVER HERE AND EXPLAIN STUFF!


Another piece of the puzzle perhaps.

He and shy are the only higher ups I know of.

Why would they just up and leave. If the site was shutting down for good; They would've warned us and told us and come here and explain everything!

Are they in danger? Were they killed? WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!

WE need someone with mad cyber/hacking/investigation skills to get to the nitty gritty to find out where those two are!

WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW! THIS IS JUST RUDE!


I’m not sure if it is good news but Fstdt now says “Service Unavailable” instead of server error. Perhaps that means that someone is working on fixing the site.

I hope so; Because if Shy planned on shutting it down forever, they would've told us.

The site was going strong and very active and it's popular.

Shy could at least come here and EXPLAIN!


I even went to to the FSTDT Facebook Page and the main one is down, too.

Why would Shy just shut down everything without warning and not bother to explain everything? Why just shut it all down and disappear?

I think something happened to Shy that involved the worst trolling, doxxing and cyberbullying imaginable! The abusers were so good that they forced him to get everything off the Internet or else they would literally kill him and his loved ones.

Another theory may be far-fetched but I needs to be heard....
Maybe Shy was actually a Far-Right mole playing a long-game. An Alt-Reich piece of SHIT with incredible patience who joined, posted for a long time, won our trust, became the new webmaster, then, without warning....SHUT IT ALL DOWN!

I have a plan! We need to yammer all over the internet about how Shy was an Alt-Reich Saboteur. The point is....if Shy is actually innocent....to smoke Shy out!

Shy will have NO CHOICE but to explain WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: davedan on May 13, 2018, 02:32:25 am
Hey Barb,

I think you should:

a) Take some deep breaths:
b) put the crack pipe down:
c) take your pants off your head;
d) re-read what you've just written;
e) take some time to think about what you've proposed being both the most crazy and least helpful response you could possibly propose;
f) stay calm and wait until there is actually some information.

seriously though stay off the drugs (other than those you've been prescribed).
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Art Vandelay on May 13, 2018, 02:36:27 am
Still, nary a single mention of the Age of Dwamalamadingdong. Maybe she is slowly but surely finding her marbles after all?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: davedan on May 13, 2018, 03:20:06 am
well those are marbles that have been pretty well scattered.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 13, 2018, 09:01:04 am
The current leading theory is that Shy's going through some intense personal issues making caring for the site a distant objective to more immediate, pressing matters.  Though, there still should've been a backup handler in case something like this came up.  A note for the future, to be sure.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 13, 2018, 09:58:45 am
Barbarella's a major contributor to FSTDT.  She's upset and her venting is understandable.  I too am frustrated but doing my best to contain it.

I remember when shy took this place over from distind; I was relieved that there was someone stepping forward to keep it going because I think this site's important and serves a function.  It was good that distind wasn't going to simply let it die but offer it to someone else.  I don't know shy's situation so can't speak to it, but IF he's feeling he can't run it anymore there should be a passing of the torch of some kind, or at least a NOTIFICATION that there needs to be a passing of the torch OR ELSE the board will not continue.

I share Barbarella's frustration with it just disappearing one day and then there being no news or any updates.

Maybe the forum area could be used as a means to find out who'd be willing to take it over, or at least help shy out.  I know zero about programming but if I can help in other ways I would.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 13, 2018, 10:57:47 am
I confess that what I said was UTTERLY DERANGED BEYOND BELIEF (especially the weird idea of 'Shy was a secret saboteur') but I was frustrated. Why couldn't Shy warn people? Why can't Shy explain himself and interact with us?

It's like one day; Shy decided to shut down everything-FSTDT and disappear into the twelfth dimension for no reason whatsoever.

How stupid does one have to be to not warn people or tell others the job is too much? Y'shouldn't have taken it if it was OBVIOUSLY going to be a big thing!

It's rude! Just rude!

So, no; Shy isn't a jerk or a secret Far-Right saboteur....Shy's just a well-meaning but impulsive idiot who assumes we're all psychic.


The current leading theory is that Shy's going through some intense personal issues making caring for the site a distant objective to more immediate, pressing matters.  Though, there still should've been a backup handler in case something like this came up.  A note for the future, to be sure.

I'd imagine that's the case. Probably something so sudden and devastating that Shy had no time to warn us or explain anything.

Heck; Shy could be dead for all we know. Maybe Shy's got badly hurt or their home was destroyed by a natural disaster and that's why they're not answering.

Maybe Shy was actually an undocumented immigrant or a "Dreamer" and asshole Orange Monster had had Shy deported! Shy can't answer us because they're in Mexico and destitute and in a very bad place!

When did the site go down. Maybe I can look at what was going on on the news that day. Maybe there was a big disaster or shooting or something and Shy was one of the known victims!

If that's the case then I apologize for calling Shy a "rude idiot".


 8) WE NEED AN INTERNET PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR TO INVESTIGATE, PROBE, HACK, WHATEVER, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STORY IS. 8)

 8) WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. 8)
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Jacob Harrison on May 13, 2018, 12:57:39 pm
Well before I was taking new medications for my mental health, I had a mental breakdown there. Maybe someone told me to kill myself or threatened to kill me, so Shy took the site down. Perhaps he is editing the site so that people who say threatening comments are able to be blocked.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Muchacho1994 on May 13, 2018, 01:39:17 pm
I registered here just to say that I want this site back. I miss it, and I don’t know why it’s been down for so long. I submitted a really stupid post to the site a few weeks ago and I wanted to see what people were saying about it, but I can’t because I can’t see the site. I want my FSTDT!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Jacob Harrison on May 13, 2018, 01:53:46 pm
I registered here just to say that I want this site back. I miss it, and I don’t know why it’s been down for so long. I submitted a really stupid post to the site a few weeks ago and I wanted to see what people were saying about it, but I can’t because I can’t see the site. I want my FSTDT!

No I registered here to post about the important thing that happened, that I wanted to tell Fstdt but couldn’t because of the site being down. I am saying that perhaps someone told me to kill myself or threatened to kill me causing Shy to shut down the site. I mean I pissed so many people off there, that at least one of them might be psycho enough to do that.

I also regret posting that comment when I had that mental breakdown because I went into too much details into personal issues that I normally like to keep it a secret.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Jacob Harrison on May 13, 2018, 02:16:30 pm
So hopefully, when the site is restored, that comment will be gone.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 13, 2018, 02:17:46 pm
Lots of people want the site back and nobody knows much about how to accomplish it.

I was in discussion with someone earlier who suggested we need a new topic on the main page about rebuilding FSTDT (should be become necessary).  It's been several weeks now and no one has any answers so maybe it's time to discuss a reboot.  The most obvious person to get in touch with who might help us is Distind, but I have no idea if he's around.

I will start up a new topic now.  If anyone here is a forum admin, can you make the thread "sticky" or otherwise give it some kind of highlighting/emphasis on the main page?  Danke.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 13, 2018, 05:19:34 pm
Lots of people want the site back and nobody knows much about how to accomplish it.

I was in discussion with someone earlier who suggested we need a new topic on the main page about rebuilding FSTDT (should be become necessary).  It's been several weeks now and no one has any answers so maybe it's time to discuss a reboot.  The most obvious person to get in touch with who might help us is Distind, but I have no idea if he's around.

I will start up a new topic now.  If anyone here is a forum admin, can you make the thread "sticky" or otherwise give it some kind of highlighting/emphasis on the main page?  Danke.

Yup; It was my idea.

Time to rebuild. I don't have the skills but someone else has to.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 13, 2018, 05:22:09 pm
Well before I was taking new medications for my mental health, I had a mental breakdown there. Maybe someone told me to kill myself or threatened to kill me, so Shy took the site down. Perhaps he is editing the site so that people who say threatening comments are able to be blocked.

I hope so. If Shy is just rebuilding and editing the thing from the ground up, they should be able to come here and explain things.

SHY; IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, PLEASE TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: davedan on May 13, 2018, 05:49:42 pm
Well the shut down of FSTDT has given the forums the biggest influx of crazy we've had in years.

Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 13, 2018, 08:34:04 pm
Well the shut down of FSTDT has given the forums the biggest influx of crazy we've had in years.

The Welcome Wagon has spoken.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 14, 2018, 03:11:11 pm
Well the shut down of FSTDT has given the forums the biggest influx of crazy we've had in years.

The Welcome Wagon has spoken.

Glad to be nuts. Weirdness results in creativity!  ;D
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 16, 2018, 08:36:09 pm
Well the shut down of FSTDT has given the forums the biggest influx of crazy we've had in years.

This is a kind of refreshing crazy. At least we don't have people screaming about the gov needing to give them GFs. I know that's been a thing on here, as well as main page for years.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: solar. on May 18, 2018, 01:07:52 pm
I'm really going to miss the main site. I don't know what happened to Shy, but perhaps he wasn't the best choice of new webmaster. To clarify, I don't have anything against him as a person.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 18, 2018, 02:45:33 pm
I'm really going to miss the main site. I don't know what happened to Shy, but perhaps he wasn't the best choice of new webmaster. To clarify, I don't have anything against him as a person.

Same here.

I confess that I rarely went to the section of the site where Shy & others would discuss the site. Perhaps Shy did give warnings.

I miss my FSTDTs buds, there like Anon-e-moose.

Hey MOOSE! If you're out there, come here, okay?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 18, 2018, 03:24:00 pm
I doubt its intentional.  If the site were going down permanently, we'd be redirected to some domain registrar or something.  As it is, it looks like something broke in the backend while Shy's absent.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 18, 2018, 05:04:01 pm
As it is, it looks like something broke in the backend while Shy's absent.

Well, it's going on a month now and there's been no word.  I've likewise been trying to find people like Anon-E-Moose by using Google but can't find him either.

I did regularly visit the part of the site where Shy chatted and there was no mention or warning.  This is what has me privately worried.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 18, 2018, 05:17:40 pm
I miss my FSTDTs buds, there like Anon-e-moose.

Hey MOOSE! If you're out there, come here, okay?

Maybe the next thing to do is go through the member list on this forum (could be time consuming, I know) to locate familiar names and page them over here to discuss?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 19, 2018, 10:43:41 pm
I hadn't seen any warning either in the most recent OT thread. Something that concerned me though was before the site went down the Fundie of the year 2k17 was going on, but there had been no new updates on that for several weeks leading up to this downtime.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 19, 2018, 11:54:35 pm
I doubt its intentional.  If the site were going down permanently, we'd be redirected to some domain registrar or something.  As it is, it looks like something broke in the backend while Shy's absent.

As it is, it looks like something broke in the backend while Shy's absent.

Well, it's going on a month now and there's been no word.  I've likewise been trying to find people like Anon-E-Moose by using Google but can't find him either.

I did regularly visit the part of the site where Shy chatted and there was no mention or warning.  This is what has me privately worried.

I know! I wonder if it was hacked by some wingnut hacker....perhaps some smelly 4Chan /pol/ jerk or something?

Shy's probably so busying fixing things that it could take months. Remember; FSTDT is VAST and goes back many years!

Shy could at least take a break, say hi and give a quick explanation of what the heck's going on.


I miss my FSTDTs buds, there like Anon-e-moose.

Hey MOOSE! If you're out there, come here, okay?

Maybe the next thing to do is go through the member list on this forum (could be time consuming, I know) to locate familiar names and page them over here to discuss?

Good idea!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 20, 2018, 10:58:49 am
If I'm reading the error it gives correctly, then do NOT qualify whomever did this (assuming this wasn't just a freak bug, which happens a LOT) with the term "hacker."  Because, if that is the case, then its likely the mainpage was the victim of a SQL injection attack, which any asshole with 2 minutes and access to Wikipedia can accomplish.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 20, 2018, 11:10:07 am
Even with my limited knowledge of such things I never got the impression it was a hacker, although I did wonder why something that worked just fine for so long without any ugly error screens suddenly starting giving them.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Tricky Fox on May 22, 2018, 08:40:21 am
Even with my limited knowledge of such things I never got the impression it was a hacker, although I did wonder why something that worked just fine for so long without any ugly error screens suddenly starting giving them.
As I've said, my current conspiracy theory is shy pulled a "make it look like an accident"
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 22, 2018, 11:35:37 am
As I've said, my current conspiracy theory is shy pulled a "make it look like an accident"

I would be inclined to give shy the benefit of the doubt since he was very eager to take the site over from Distind when the time came to do so, and he did revamp it and update it and give it a fresh coat of paint, and in my limited conversations with him I got the impression he was very into it.

It was only starting around January or so that I noticed it was starting to suffer a bit, things I would submit wouldn't be approved for a week or so...there would be hardly any new content for long stretches, then all of a sudden there would be an avalanche of new stuff to read (which was a bit of a bummer because it was either feast or famine - too much to wade through when there was a glut, and nothing at all when no one was approving stuff).

I'm legitimately worried about shy, and my gut tells me that he didn't and wouldn't just abandon the site.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 22, 2018, 06:02:17 pm
As I've said, my current conspiracy theory is shy pulled a "make it look like an accident"

I would be inclined to give shy the benefit of the doubt since he was very eager to take the site over from Distind when the time came to do so, and he did revamp it and update it and give it a fresh coat of paint, and in my limited conversations with him I got the impression he was very into it.

It was only starting around January or so that I noticed it was starting to suffer a bit, things I would submit wouldn't be approved for a week or so...there would be hardly any new content for long stretches, then all of a sudden there would be an avalanche of new stuff to read (which was a bit of a bummer because it was either feast or famine - too much to wade through when there was a glut, and nothing at all when no one was approving stuff).

I'm legitimately worried about shy, and my gut tells me that he didn't and wouldn't just abandon the site.


This is... kind of a pattern, actually. Yahweh took over after WinAce passed away, and I think she was probably very excited about it (I wasn't around back then, but I've heard accounts), and then she burnt out and basically dropped the ball on the site and it kind of died. Distind took over with some extraordinary effort from other users to get in contact with Yahweh, and then progressively got burnt out on the forums (which is why I'm here) and then eventually of the main site, and Shy picked it up. If Shy in turn got burnt out, well. Not that surprising, all things considered.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Tricky Fox on May 22, 2018, 07:07:45 pm
As I've said, my current conspiracy theory is shy pulled a "make it look like an accident"

I would be inclined to give shy the benefit of the doubt since he was very eager to take the site over from Distind when the time came to do so, and he did revamp it and update it and give it a fresh coat of paint, and in my limited conversations with him I got the impression he was very into it.

It was only starting around January or so that I noticed it was starting to suffer a bit, things I would submit wouldn't be approved for a week or so...there would be hardly any new content for long stretches, then all of a sudden there would be an avalanche of new stuff to read (which was a bit of a bummer because it was either feast or famine - too much to wade through when there was a glut, and nothing at all when no one was approving stuff).

I'm legitimately worried about shy, and my gut tells me that he didn't and wouldn't just abandon the site.


This is... kind of a pattern, actually. Yahweh took over after WinAce passed away, and I think she was probably very excited about it (I wasn't around back then, but I've heard accounts), and then she burnt out and basically dropped the ball on the site and it kind of died. Distind took over with some extraordinary effort from other users to get in contact with Yahweh, and then progressively got burnt out on the forums (which is why I'm here) and then eventually of the main site, and Shy picked it up. If Shy in turn got burnt out, well. Not that surprising, all things considered.
If he is burnt out, fine but at least do the decent thing and tell us so it can get straightened out
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 22, 2018, 07:16:01 pm
It just sucks he's gone and disappeared on us. Burnout definitely makes sense (though it was surprisingly shorter than the others, but eh people are different)

Anyone else here know code? I'm very much a beginner/student level so I don't think I'd be able to make a new one.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2018, 09:24:26 pm
Yo.  Been doin this shit for 16 years, fluent in multiple languages and multiple technologies and have worked in both Windows and Linux environments, though I quite prefer the former.  Dunno if anyone else here might also be able to help...it'd be nice, lol.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 22, 2018, 10:45:49 pm
Yo.  Been doin this shit for 16 years, fluent in multiple languages and multiple technologies and have worked in both Windows and Linux environments, though I quite prefer the former.  Dunno if anyone else here might also be able to help...it'd be nice, lol.

Did you post in the Reddit (about FSTDT) recently?  I thought you had but don't see the post now.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 22, 2018, 10:49:51 pm
Yo.  Been doin this shit for 16 years, fluent in multiple languages and multiple technologies and have worked in both Windows and Linux environments, though I quite prefer the former.  Dunno if anyone else here might also be able to help...it'd be nice, lol.

I only have a little coding experience, sorry. But I might be able to find someone who can help.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 23, 2018, 06:43:49 am
Yo.  Been doin this shit for 16 years, fluent in multiple languages and multiple technologies and have worked in both Windows and Linux environments, though I quite prefer the former.  Dunno if anyone else here might also be able to help...it'd be nice, lol.

Did you post in the Reddit (about FSTDT) recently?  I thought you had but don't see the post now.

I did, indeed.  Its still at the top of the list, from what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 23, 2018, 10:41:16 am
I did, indeed.  Its still at the top of the list, from what I'm seeing.

Huh.  Must be something wrong at my end.
I'd really like to reach out to all these people around the internet saying "what happened to my FSTDT" and tell them we're working on it.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 23, 2018, 01:01:27 pm
If I'm reading the error it gives correctly, then do NOT qualify whomever did this (assuming this wasn't just a freak bug, which happens a LOT) with the term "hacker."  Because, if that is the case, then its likely the mainpage was the victim of a SQL injection attack, which any asshole with 2 minutes and access to Wikipedia can accomplish.

Maybe "hacker" was too strong a word. I just used the first word that comes to mind when I think "Person who enters computer program in a sneaky way to mess with it for good or ill".
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 23, 2018, 07:43:07 pm
HA, tis okay, I'm just being a pedant.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on May 24, 2018, 09:03:34 pm
HA, tis okay, I'm just being a pedant.

Ah! Har har.  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 29, 2018, 03:33:20 am
I am l33t haxor my name is 4chanz, please fear me.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: SomeApe on May 29, 2018, 04:29:11 am
Hey everyone.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you why the page is down either.
I remember shy having some personal issues some months ago, which is why Fundie of the Year got postponed. And there is some redesigning going on still(?). Pyro?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't just drop the site and run.
I will try to catch him on IRC tonight.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on May 29, 2018, 08:14:39 am
Hey everyone.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you why the page is down either.
I remember shy having some personal issues some months ago, which is why Fundie of the Year got postponed. And there is some redesigning going on still(?). Pyro?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't just drop the site and run.
I will try to catch him on IRC tonight.

Nice to see you again SomeApe.  I hope you have some luck reaching him.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on June 04, 2018, 01:24:09 am
Hey everyone.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you why the page is down either.
I remember shy having some personal issues some months ago, which is why Fundie of the Year got postponed. And there is some redesigning going on still(?). Pyro?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't just drop the site and run.
I will try to catch him on IRC tonight.


Same, here. Howdy, SomeApe. Hopefully we'll get answers.
Nice to see you again SomeApe.  I hope you have some luck reaching him.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Dr. Weird on June 06, 2018, 11:47:56 am
FSTDT seems to have come back online this morning.

There's been three posts in the Site Commentary thread (starting near the bottom of the page here (http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=133676&Page=6)) but nothing from Shy yet.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Id82 on June 06, 2018, 12:58:23 pm
Really glad that it's back up! Hopefully well get some sort of explanation as to why it's been down.

Now this guy can eat his words! https://incels.me/threads/fstdt-is-down.38308/
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 06, 2018, 01:55:17 pm
IT RETURNS!  Skeet skeet, bitches!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on June 06, 2018, 10:46:41 pm
Thanks Ravy for your efforts at a rebuild.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on June 07, 2018, 01:01:58 am
I felt a disturbance in the force.

Its as if millions* of screaming incels cried out at once.

*probably only a few hundred at most, but who cares lol
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Barbarella on June 07, 2018, 01:29:17 am
YES!

I'm racin' over there, RIGHT NOW!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Tricky Fox on June 08, 2018, 05:15:14 am
And here I thought it was gone forever.

AU CONTRAIRE! IIIIIIIT'S BACK!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Id82 on June 08, 2018, 04:07:25 pm
And down again.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 08, 2018, 05:22:33 pm
Now with an even less helpful error message, since a 500 can be almost literally god damned anything.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on June 08, 2018, 05:24:51 pm
Do we know who revived it the first time?  It it was Shy he didn't say anything.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Tricky Fox on June 08, 2018, 05:52:00 pm
it's a sign though. an effort is being made by someone somewhere.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on June 08, 2018, 11:32:22 pm
Hmmm, so I guess we've already tried turning it off and on again?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: KingOfRhye on June 09, 2018, 06:38:33 am
Back again as of this morning!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 09, 2018, 09:25:54 am
Yup, I checked 'er around midnight EDT and it was up and running.  Means someone is actively responding to issues, which is a good sign.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: KingOfRhye on June 12, 2018, 06:10:46 am
500 Internal server error again.  What the hell?
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 12, 2018, 09:10:34 am
If I had to guess, I'd wager that someone's battling more than a few bugs.  That, or trying to make improvements, thus causing new bugs to crop up.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: KingOfRhye on June 13, 2018, 06:17:48 am
Well, back this morning....
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on June 13, 2018, 01:54:55 pm
At least someone is staying on top of it now.  I still would love to know who it is though and what happened.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on June 14, 2018, 02:52:21 pm
Just tried fstdt.com again and...

....nooooooooo!!!!!
It’s BACK!
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: BobRumba on June 14, 2018, 02:54:14 pm
...and, just as quickly, it’s back to normal again?
Weird.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Dr. Weird on June 14, 2018, 04:41:32 pm
Shy recently popped up, finally:

http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=133676&Page=8

Quote from: Shy
Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

I've just been having some major mental-health issues and IRL drama therefrom. I'm setting up a committee / co-ownership thing for FSTDT, so if I disappear, someone else is in charge. All the mods also have my mobile now. I'm really sorry for worrying anyone! I love you guys, and I hope you can forgive me.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: ironbite on June 14, 2018, 05:03:06 pm
Oh good.

Ironbite-glad to hear he's alive.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 14, 2018, 06:40:49 pm
Not trying to be an ass, but what constitutes a mod?  I have access to pubadmin, I can view people's IPs, edit comments, and even ban people.  However, I've not been contacted with any information on any communication platform I've got.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on June 19, 2018, 03:09:18 am
Was reading up on the main page just fine like 5 minutes ago but then I clicked on a quote and got another error.

I'm glad its at least working on and off and glad Shy is doing sort of ok.
Title: Re: What’s going on with fstdt.com?
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 19, 2018, 09:18:34 am
Alas, that's software engineering in a nutshell: you fix one problem, another twelve pop up.  We don't call 'em "bugs" for nothin.