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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2015, 04:36:41 pm »
Apart from anything else, how fucking stupid do you have to be to do something like this to a fucking LAWYER??  Did he really think that would go well for him??

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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2015, 04:46:29 pm »
I'm sure he thought he could get away with it. That she'd be cowed by his tough guy attitude and let him do what he wanted.
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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2015, 04:49:44 pm »
If this guy was a serial killer, and they found him with a victim, with a murder weapon dripping blood, and the cop pulled this...HE'D GET OFF SCOTT FREE!

Ironbite-for fuck's sake how do you fuck that up?

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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2015, 04:55:51 pm »
You'd think a cop would remember the Miranda Warning enough to note the line about "You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning."

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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2015, 05:39:48 pm »
You'd think a cop would remember the Miranda Warning enough to note the line about "You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning."

Keep in mind that the US Supreme Court ruled a while ago that things the arrested individual does before being read the warning are admissible (which made Ginsburg comment that they should have just scrapped the warning entirely due to pointlessness). Maybe the cop heard about that and read too much into it.

Or, more likely, he's a complete retard who made this an open-and-shut case for the defence.
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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2015, 02:19:10 am »
You'd think a cop would remember the Miranda Warning enough to note the line about "You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning."

Keep in mind that the US Supreme Court ruled a while ago that things the arrested individual does before being read the warning are admissible (which made Ginsburg comment that they should have just scrapped the warning entirely due to pointlessness). Maybe the cop heard about that and read too much into it.

Or, more likely, he's a complete retard who made this an open-and-shut case for the defence.


So Miranda rights don't matter anymore? In that case maybe the only stupid thing this cop did was arresting the lawyer and had she agreed to his suggestion to abandon her client this stupid tactic would have worked?

Actually, since the supreme court agrees that the police can question suspects without a lawyer and it is totally kosher, wouldn't that mean that the cop has a case for claiming that she was obstructing him in his duty?
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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2015, 02:39:08 am »
You'd think a cop would remember the Miranda Warning enough to note the line about "You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning."

Keep in mind that the US Supreme Court ruled a while ago that things the arrested individual does before being read the warning are admissible (which made Ginsburg comment that they should have just scrapped the warning entirely due to pointlessness). Maybe the cop heard about that and read too much into it.

Or, more likely, he's a complete retard who made this an open-and-shut case for the defence.


So Miranda rights don't matter anymore? In that case maybe the only stupid thing this cop did was arresting the lawyer and had she agreed to his suggestion to abandon her client this stupid tactic would have worked?

Actually, since the supreme court agrees that the police can question suspects without a lawyer and it is totally kosher, wouldn't that mean that the cop has a case for claiming that she was obstructing him in his duty?

Arrested people still have Miranda rights. It's just that previously, they had to be informed of them before statements became admissible; now, they don't.
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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2015, 03:42:34 am »
"Arrested for resisting arrest"

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I got nothing.

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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2015, 03:50:55 am »
"Arrested for resisting arrest"

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I got nothing.

It's what they arrest you for when they want to arrest you but don't have any reason to arrest you.
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Re: Public defender arrested for defending her client
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2015, 04:50:04 am »
"Arrested for resisting arrest"

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I got nothing.

It's what they arrest you for when they want to arrest you but don't have any reason to arrest you.

Usually there would be something like "obstruction of justice" or something and the "resisting arrest" bit would simply be an aggravating factor that gets tagged along with all the other charges. And I fully accept using it as such but the fact that the cop couldn't think of any other reason to arrest her (and STILL decided to arrest her) together with all his other actions (like a quote from the earlier racial profiling case) make me think that he really does not know how the laws work and is generally incompetent...
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