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Community => Religion and Philosophy => Topic started by: gyeonghwa on January 09, 2012, 12:00:54 am
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http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/01/03/did-abstinence-only-ideology-create-bully-generation
Not only is abstinence only education centered around falsehoods and lies. It turns out that it helps make bullies. This is how:
They rely on offensive, sexist stereotypes about men and women, boys and girls, as a foundational teaching tool and pass it off as "biology." They portray "real" boys as unable to control themselves, unemotional (particularly about sex), not interested in female desire or sexual satisfaction, not ultimately responsible for their own sexual feelings (which are portrayed as dependent on how girls chose to tempt them) and definitely heterosexual. Girls, on the other hand, are shown as controlling monitors of aggressive male sexuality.
They marginalize and stigmatize LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer) youth by teaching that sex between a woman and a man (obviously within traditional heterosexual marriage) is the only safe, healthy, "normal" behavior.
Lastly, abstinence-only programs teach kids to slut-shame and -blame, and send a victim-blaming message. The flip side of this equation for boys is that they aren't in control of themselves and can't be blamed if a girl "encourages" them. We sometimes call that as "boys being boys" and it's how we laughingly wave away a slippery slope of assaultive behaviour
They also straight up lie (http://www.nomoremoney.org/index.cfm?pageid=950). Yet we've increased federal funding for these programs.
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One year my sex ed teacher said that anal sex was unnatural because "poop chutes weren't meant to be used that way."
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If they ever have us do a comic, I'm going to reproduce a copy of this:
(http://strix.org.uk/downloads/files/abstinence.jpg)
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"I do not see the meaning to this."
Sounds like what the student should be saying.
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One thing I've noticed about the final "an hero" drawing is that the bullet exited the kid's skull a bit too low. With the way the gun is pointing, it should have come out around where the highest part of the brain-splatter is shown.
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The sad thing is that my school would have arranged a meeting with the counselor too. Not so much because of abstinence-only, but apparently violent themes are never appropriate or a laughing matter, unless it's for English class. Though they did have an abstinence speaker.
“Deep inside every man is a knight in shining armor, ready to rescue a maiden and slay a wicked dragon. When a man feels trusted, he is free to be the strong, protecting man he longs to be.â€Â
I don't care about that bitch, I'm here for Fafnir. Either he's gonna die or I'm gonna pop his black cherry. Possibly both.
At first I was skeptical, but frankly I think you're right. Why should I call that girl a whore? Oh it makes me a good Christian. Why should I call the gay kid a fag? Because gayness is evil! Why should I expose my kid to an abusive environment? Because abortion & divorce would make me a terrible excuse for a human being who threw away my worth & purity for nothing!
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Screw the maiden, I'd rather screw the dragon.
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Seriously! These Abstinence Only people say the COOLEST SHIT when you interpret it right. First I get to break into someone's home & pee on their coffee table, now I get to FUCK A DRAGON TO DEATH. Why do people have problems with this?!
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If they ever have us do a comic, I'm going to reproduce a copy of this:
(http://strix.org.uk/downloads/files/abstinence.jpg)
Oh shit, win
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Seriously! These Abstinence Only people say the COOLEST SHIT when you interpret it right. First I get to break into someone's home & pee on their coffee table, now I get to FUCK A DRAGON TO DEATH. Why do people have problems with this?!
I think we have an idea for a new Metalocalypse episode.
I'm not so keen on the dragonfucking thing, but I'm definitely not alone in thinking the dragon would be the most awesome pet ever. And maybe some wolves to keep him company while I'm gone.
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Yeah, I'll take the dragon too. Oh Bahamut~
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Most dragons can shape change to a human form anyway. I'm down.
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Depends on the universe really. Some dragons can shape-shift and some can't. It's all in the dragon. But I really wouldn't want a dragon to shape-shift into a human.
Ironbite-not when there's so many sexier creatures out there.
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“Teens in both one-parent and remarried homes typically display more deviant behavior and commit more delinquent acts than do teens whose parents stayed married. Studies show that two married, biological parents have the means and the motivation to appropriately monitor and discipline boys in ways that reduce the likelihood that they will pose a threat to the social order.â€Â
(From that link the OP provided.)
Bullshit like this always makes me raeg. 1) I know plenty of people who come from single-parent or remarried homes who turned out perfectly fine. In fact, in some cases they're happier with their parents divorced. Better divorced and perhaps remarried than monogamous and miserable. 2) Boys are not fucking WMDs to society.
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They are WMDs to your vagina however.
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If they ever have us do a comic, I'm going to reproduce a copy of this:
(http://strix.org.uk/downloads/files/abstinence.jpg)
If I had a kid who drew that kinda comic for abstinence-only bullshit-class, I'd take him to the counselor, laugh my ass off at their pathetic "worries," then take that kid for the best fucking pizza lunch EVER.
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“Teens in both one-parent and remarried homes typically display more deviant behavior and commit more delinquent acts than do teens whose parents stayed married. Studies show that two married, biological parents have the means and the motivation to appropriately monitor and discipline boys in ways that reduce the likelihood that they will pose a threat to the social order.â€Â
(From that link the OP provided.)
Bullshit like this always makes me raeg. 1) I know plenty of people who come from single-parent or remarried homes who turned out perfectly fine. In fact, in some cases they're happier with their parents divorced. Better divorced and perhaps remarried than monogamous and miserable. 2) Boys are not fucking WMDs to society.
3) The original study didn't say anything about biological parents (which meant that same-sex parents were NOT considered "lesser" parents), so they're lying out of their fucking teeth anyways.
Besides, didn't a study show in Canada that lesbians were apparently the best parents?
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Sounds like lesbians are the evolutionary better of humans. Less prone to sexual diseases, better parents, and at times the absolute hottest thing to watch
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... did you just admit you'd like to watch your mom get it on with another chick? :o
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“Teens in both one-parent and remarried homes typically display more deviant behavior and commit more delinquent acts than do teens whose parents stayed married. Studies show that two married, biological parents have the means and the motivation to appropriately monitor and discipline boys in ways that reduce the likelihood that they will pose a threat to the social order.â€Â
(From that link the OP provided.)
Bullshit like this always makes me raeg. 1) I know plenty of people who come from single-parent or remarried homes who turned out perfectly fine. In fact, in some cases they're happier with their parents divorced. Better divorced and perhaps remarried than monogamous and miserable. 2) Boys are not fucking WMDs to society.
3) The original study didn't say anything about biological parents (which meant that same-sex parents were NOT considered "lesser" parents), so they're lying out of their fucking teeth anyways.
Besides, didn't a study show in Canada that lesbians were apparently the best parents?
Also gotta love how their blatant lie is incredibly degrading to those who adopt a child. Seriously, what the fuck? It doesn't matter if the parents share chromosomes with the kids or not, as that's completely irrelevant to how they raise the children and the bond they share.
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BUT THE GAYS WILL MOLEST THEIR ADOPTED CHILDREN!
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Telling two hormone riddled teenagers not to get all handsy and fuck each other is like trying to convince a fire to not burn down your whole house and just burn the curtains....aka; impossible.
In regards to the bullying...I really loathe this. The whole idea that "boys will be boys" when it comes to chasing a kid home or beating his ass after school just makes me sick. For what? Not understanding that someone is different? Beating them up or ridiculing them because they aren't athletic or don't like monster trucks?
Going back to the way things were in the 1950s would be absolutely horrible. I have a feeling that these bills are championed by people who bullied others while they were growing up and maybe even bullying people in their adult lives as well.
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In regards to the bullying...I really loathe this. The whole idea that "boys will be boys" when it comes to chasing a kid home or beating his ass after school just makes me sick. For what? Not understanding that someone is different? Beating them up or ridiculing them because they aren't athletic or don't like monster trucks?
Going back to the way things were in the 1950s would be absolutely horrible. I have a feeling that these bills are championed by people who bullied others while they were growing up and maybe even bullying people in their adult lives as well.
The thing is they see the 50s as Leave it to Beaver not the real 50s.
For example way more pregnant teens in the 50s even when you factor in abortion just they didn't go to school so you didn't see them.
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“Teens in both one-parent and remarried homes typically display more deviant behavior and commit more delinquent acts than do teens whose parents stayed married. Studies show that two married, biological parents have the means and the motivation to appropriately monitor and discipline boys in ways that reduce the likelihood that they will pose a threat to the social order.â€Â
My grandparents have been married for my father's entire life, but that never stopped him from being a party animal all throughout college.
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Telling two hormone riddled teenagers not to get all handsy and fuck each other is like trying to convince a fire to not burn down your whole house and just burn the curtains....aka; impossible.
In regards to the bullying...I really loathe this. The whole idea that "boys will be boys" when it comes to chasing a kid home or beating his ass after school just makes me sick. For what? Not understanding that someone is different? Beating them up or ridiculing them because they aren't athletic or don't like monster trucks?
Going back to the way things were in the 1950s would be absolutely horrible. I have a feeling that these bills are championed by people who bullied others while they were growing up and maybe even bullying people in their adult lives as well.
Don't get me started on that bullshit. When you make an environment that does not put forth the expectation of a boy or man to control themselves in regards to sex, then of course they're not going to be able to control themselves! It's one of the biggest copouts there is, blaming a woman or girl simply because they chose to dress a certain way.
"Don't want to be treated like a whore, don't dress like one!"
Don't want me to treat you like an inbred redneck, don't talk like one.