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Rubbish => Preaching and Worship => Topic started by: Art Vandelay on February 10, 2012, 02:46:33 am
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Watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up-0E4Qetfg&NR=1&feature=endscreen) little gem. How long can you last?
I lasted around five minutes.
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"You'd better first define what you're talking about."
Ultimate irony.
"I spent the best 5 years of my life in fourth great."
He just can't stop.
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I failed to get past the title.
I think I win the booby prize.
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I failed to get past the title.
I think I win the booby prize.
Same. I saw the title and clicked out of the video.
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I only even got to the point where I heard Ken’s voice because I was a little slow getting my cursor in place.
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Oh it's him. No thanks.
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Can't watch due to being at work, so I played the same game with comments. I got as far as the first one:
GOOD JOB! Noqw can you act like an audult and prove that he is an idiot? NO? Then shut up.
NOQW WHO IS THE IUDIOT HAHAHAUUHASUSDBAVSFHDL!
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Can't watch due to being at work, so I played the same game with comments. I got as far as the first one:
GOOD JOB! Noqw can you act like an audult and prove that he is an idiot? NO? Then shut up.
NOQW WHO IS THE IUDIOT HAHAHAUUHASUSDBAVSFHDL!
I want to fuck yeah but I'll fuck no instead just for you!
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I like both, so go with whatever makes you feel best. :)
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Made it a whole .5 seconds! 8)
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Noqw can you act like an audult and prove that he is an idiot? NO? Then shut up.
These guys are masters of irony. I was 30 minutes in & he must have said "stupid" at least 100 times. But that commenter was immature?
I quit because I had to go to bed. Might continue it if I have spare time.
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Saw who it was and closed the tab.
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Ex-fundie now-athiest roommate and I are having a contest. Whoever goes farther gets the other one to pay for a snack from our student union. If we both get through the whole thing, we get something for each other. We're at about half an hour right now.
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Kill him. Or her. I don't care.
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i lasted 3 seconds..
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About 1 1/2 minutes...
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Title.
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I got to 11 minutes. Here's the transcript of what I heard. http://pastebin.com/riezF26Z (http://pastebin.com/riezF26Z)
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I got to 11 minutes. Here's the transcript of what I heard. http://pastebin.com/riezF26Z (http://pastebin.com/riezF26Z)
Couldn't watch the video, but I did skim the transcript a little. His definitions of evolution are so incredibly stupid I couldn't go any further than that.
92 elements? Goddamn, how far behind are you? When I was in grade school in the 60's, we learned then there were 102 elements. And now, with the discovery of more elements, the periodic table is up to around 118.
Never seen stars form? Hell, yeah, they have. Star formation in every stage of development has been observed. And, generally, a star has to be super-massive to go nova or supernova. We're talking hundreds to thousands of times larger than our sun. That means that several smaller stars could be formed from the remnants of a super-nova. Smaller stars like our sun will usually go through a red giant stage when it runs out of fuel, then collapse in on itself to form a white dwarf. No explosion involved. Get it right, dipshit.
But the bits about micro- and macro-evolution are the toppings on this moron cake. At least he does admit that micro-evolution occurs. What is so maddening is that he and others like him cannot or will not for the life of them understand that continued micro-changes in a species leads to macro-evolution. The bit about rocks turning into dogs or that a dog has never given birth to a different animal are two of those ::) moments. Evolution theory does not now nor has it ever said anything like this. Life came from organic compounds, not inorganic materials like a rock.
I could rant a lot more about this, but I won't. Shit like this would be funny if it weren't for that he actually thinks it's true. And what's even sadder is that the people he is telling it too don't know any better and believe it, also. Former science teacher, my ass. He wouldn't know true science if you beat over the head with a big bag of it.
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Also, the stars probably are wrong. We're seeing them as they were ages ago.
I can understand why the professors were getting pissed off at him, if that story is true. God, this would be like me making the same amount as, or even more than, a doctor by selling magic healing crystals. Then I have the nerve to go constantly twist modern medicine into "hurr durr, you just cut people apart & hope it magically fixes them."
The sad thing is, he's kind of persuasive if you don't already know how evolution works.
As an aside, I thought micro-evolution was bullshit Creationists made up for the longest time. I can actually agree with him on this, I much prefer "variation."
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(http://memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg)
I made it 15 minutes.
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I even believe the cover on mine! It says, "Kent Hovind." I believe that.
what is this i dont even
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I got up to the point where he started talking about star formation. Seriously, where did he get that horseshit about "the different kinds of evolution" from? Evolution is strictly a biological concept.e
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I got up to the point where he started talking about star formation. Seriously, where did he get that horseshit about "the different kinds of evolution" from? Evolution is strictly a biological concept.e
The word evolution is often co-opted to simply reference “change over time” outside of biology.
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I got up to the point where he started talking about star formation. Seriously, where did he get that horseshit about "the different kinds of evolution" from? Evolution is strictly a biological concept.e
The word evolution is often co-opted to simply reference “change over time” outside of biology.
I don't have a problem with the use of the word evolution when pertaining to things other than life. After all, large clouds of gas coalesced and did basically evolve from being said gas into solar systems (stars, planets, moons, etc.) And the one thing I think he did right was to separate the different types of evolution.
But once he got into the different types of evolution, there was so much wrong with what he said, it just made my head want to explode. And, unfortunately, the people he is telling it too don't know any better than to believe he is telling them the truth. And that is the really sad part about this whole thing.
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Yeah, the problem isn’t with talking about stellar, gelogoical, societal, and biological evolution. The problem is treating them as is they have anything to do with each other.
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Basically, it's a perfectly accurate metaphor to talk about stars as living & evolving, but metaphors are literary devices, not scientific ones. And even then, it's obvious he's just trying to obfuscate the point by talking about all of these as though they're the same thing. If you even try to address the problems with his explanation of biology, he's going to throw a bitchfit & insist that you "address the theory at the start." Then, even if you also know astronomy, it's going to take you like 5 hours just to get him back to the point.
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1:06, but that's only because I let it play while I posted a comment. I was ready to leave when I seen the name of Sat..I mean, Kent Hovind. I'm really starting to wonder if all these fundy xtians are just one big joke, and sooner or later, we're going to get a big GOTCHA.
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9 minutes. When he put up a textbook page about the sun's formation and tried to say it was talking about the Big Bang, I had to give up.
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Oh god, I failed that endurance test.
Or to be more optimistic, I passed the intelligence test.
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0.06 seconds
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1. Clicked on link
2. Saw title in tab
3. Close tab
4. Delete video from history
5. ???
6. PROFIT!
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Saw "Ken Hovind" and immediately hit the back button. Couldn't even let it buffer beyond the title page. ew ew ew ew gedditoff gedditoff GEDDITOFF!!!!!!!!
:o
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Saw the title. Saw that the video was two hours long. Stared blankly while I said "Two hours!?" to myself, then clicked out of the tab before even seeing who it was. Then I read part of the transcript Wytch posted. Got as far as the "definitions of evolution" (never mind that four of the six don't exist and the last two are the same thing). Someone please confirm for me that this man's Doctorate is either bullshit and imaginary or in a completely different field.
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Someone please confirm for me that this man's Doctorate is either bullshit and imaginary or in a completely different field.
It's technically legit, but it's from a diploma mill. In practice it's just a doctorate in paying tuition fees.
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Someone please confirm for me that this man's Doctorate is either bullshit and imaginary or in a completely different field.
It's technically legit, but it's from a diploma mill. In practice it's just a doctorate in paying tuition fees.
So, its legit, but not credible?
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Someone please confirm for me that this man's Doctorate is either bullshit and imaginary or in a completely different field.
It's technically legit, but it's from a diploma mill. In practice it's just a doctorate in paying tuition fees.
So, its legit, but not credible?
Yup
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Someone please confirm for me that this man's Doctorate is either bullshit and imaginary or in a completely different field.
It's technically legit, but it's from a diploma mill. In practice it's just a doctorate in paying tuition fees.
So, its legit, but not credible?
Yup
Huh. Not sure if I'd rate that as more humorous as if the doctorate was a load of shit or not.
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Well, a diploma mill doctorate is a load of shit, really. You should check out Hovind’s dissertation (http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Young-earth_creationist_Kent_Hovind%27s_doctoral_dissertation).
But in any case, it takes a little bit more effort to detect a diploma mill degree than it does to discover a totally fake degree, I think. That would make the diploma mill degree marginally more dangerous, and therefore marginally less humorous. But that’s me.
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Well, a diploma mill doctorate is a load of shit, really. You should check out Hovind’s dissertation (http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Young-earth_creationist_Kent_Hovind%27s_doctoral_dissertation).
But in any case, it takes a little bit more effort to detect a diploma mill degree than it does to discover a totally fake degree, I think. That would make the diploma mill degree marginally more dangerous, and therefore marginally less humorous. But that’s me.
I fucking love WikiLeaks. xD
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Well, a diploma mill doctorate is a load of shit, really. You should check out Hovind’s dissertation (http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Young-earth_creationist_Kent_Hovind%27s_doctoral_dissertation).
But in any case, it takes a little bit more effort to detect a diploma mill degree than it does to discover a totally fake degree, I think. That would make the diploma mill degree marginally more dangerous, and therefore marginally less humorous. But that’s me.
I fucking love WikiLeaks. xD
I just love how the fact that the dissertation had to be treated as a leak in the first place says so much about Hovind’s alma mater.
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Sadly I think I win the prize here.
Before I lost my religion I was part of a home cell, and we had 2 weeks of watching hovind. Even I could tell it was absolute bullshit with just high school science. I was still studying at the time and not as readily interested in doing research. I think what bugged me the most was that the other members of the cell were so scientifically illiterate that they A: couldn't see what was wrong, and B: chose to just accept it because it fitted their world view and felt that everything suddenly made more sense. I didn't say anything, at that point in my life I was starting to question and didn't want to rock the boat.
But yeah I have easily an hour + under my belt.