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Title: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: sandman on February 22, 2012, 04:50:50 pm
OK, so the rumor is that Matt Smith will be leaving Doctor Who in the near future. The question is....who do we want for the 12th Doctor?

Here are the nominees:

Hugh Laurie (House MD, Blackadder)
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Kenneth Branagh (Henry V, Frankenstein, Hamlet, Valkyrie, Harry Potter & Chamber of Secrets)
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Alan Rickman (Die Hard, Harry Potter series)
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Timothy Spall (Harry Potter series, Sweeny Todd, Enchanted)
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Michael Gambon (Gosford Park, Harry Potter series, Sleepy Hollow)
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Paddy Considine (Bourne Ultimatum, Cinderella Man)
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Michael Caine (Batman Begins, Alfie, Austin Powers Goldmember)
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Mackenzie Crook (Pirates of the Carribean, Finding Neverland, The Office)
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John Cleese (Monty Python & the Holy Grail, A Fish Called Wanda, Die Another Day)
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Tom Hardy (Inception, Warrior, Rock-n-rolla)
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Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 22, 2012, 05:22:10 pm
Hmm...upon seeing no entry for Eddie Izzard, I shall instead cast my vote for Hugh Laurie.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 22, 2012, 05:26:55 pm
I don't think Hugh wants to stay in show business. He wants to work on his music now that House is done.

Thus, I have no vote. :P
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: shadowpanther on February 22, 2012, 05:51:04 pm
None of the above; Stephen Fry.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: JohnE on February 22, 2012, 09:25:33 pm
None of the above; Stephen Fry.
This. Absolutely this.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 22, 2012, 09:41:53 pm
I only picked Laurie for the possibility of Doctor House/Doctor Who crossovers
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: sandman on February 22, 2012, 09:56:21 pm
Yeah, Hugh Laurie isn't very likely at all, but he has mentioned that he is a big Doctor Who fan from way back, so it's not an impossibility...

Personally I think he would be perfect. A combination of Dr. House's (admittedly almost entirely justified) assholeish arrogance and the Prince Regent's utter buffoonery would make an eminently watchable Doctor.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 22, 2012, 10:01:04 pm
Hugh and Rickman, for me.  They both have delicious snark, and seeing either of them as the Doctor would be magnificent.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: m52nickerson on February 22, 2012, 10:03:41 pm
Rickman, but I will miss Smith immensely since I have just gotten into the series so for me he IS the Doctor. 
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 22, 2012, 10:07:27 pm
Smith took some time to grow on me.  It was the cheekbones.  Now, though? it works.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: sandman on February 22, 2012, 10:08:26 pm
I first got into Doctor Who back in the Tom Baker years myself, so while I like Matt Smith, he just seems so....young to be the Doctor.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 22, 2012, 10:12:44 pm
In my defense, I started with Eccelston... but my first love is Pertwee.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Jack Bauer on February 23, 2012, 05:43:59 am
Rickman for me - I'd love to hear him say 'timey wimey'!

**sigh** and I can remember the very first ep of Doctor Who, with Bill Hartnell.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Askold on February 23, 2012, 06:49:12 am
I don't think they would choose any of the "big names" to play the Doctor. So Rickman, Branagh, Laurie, Cleese and Caine are unlikely. Maybe Gambon too.

So that leaves some younger less known actors, much like the previous few doctors.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: sandman on February 23, 2012, 08:39:32 am
askold, yeah, from a realistic point of view, the bigger names are highly unlikely, except as a one-off movie special, perhaps. I could totally see Laurie or Rickman doing something like that. As for the continuing series, the most realistically likely of the nominations is probably Mackenzie Crook. He has all the things they look for in a Doctor: a young character actor with an established TV presence on a wildly popular show with cross-Atlantic appeal ("The Office") and a few, but not too many, movie credits.


But can't you just imagine John Cleese as the Doctor?
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Jack Bauer on February 23, 2012, 10:20:11 am
I can imagine John Cleese as a sort of time travelling Basil Fawlty...

Who would be the Doctor's Companion for a Cleesian Doctor?
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Jack Bauer on February 23, 2012, 10:21:21 am
None of the above; Stephen Fry.

Yep - and his Doctor's Companion could be Captain Jack Harkness ;)...
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 23, 2012, 04:38:47 pm
My vote not only went to Alan Rickman, but Alan Rickman playing the Doctor as a cross between Hans Gruber and Severus Snape.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2012, 07:12:29 pm
Screw that, I vote for Daniel Radcliffe!  Because fuck yeah.  Also, following the apparent pattern of the Doctor getting younger with each new incarnation...
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2012, 02:26:41 pm
John Cleese made a cameo appearance in one of Tom Baker's stories.

Michael Gambon was also of course a guest star in the 2010 Xmas special.


I think they should reverse the recent trend of each Doctor being younger than the previous, and my vote goes to Nigel Terry (who was in The Doctor's Daughter but is best known for being King Arthur in Excalibur).
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: JohnE on February 24, 2012, 08:45:35 pm
I have the next doctor right here.

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Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 25, 2012, 01:17:54 pm
I think they should reverse the recent trend of each Doctor being younger than the previous, and my vote goes to Nigel Terry (who was in The Doctor's Daughter but is best known for being King Arthur in Excalibur).

What trend? Matt Smith just happened to be younger than Tennent, who happened to be younger than Eccleston. Saying that there's a trend now would be like saying that there was a trend of the same thing after Pertwee, who was older than Baker, who was older than Davison. It just happened that they were the people hired for the role and not a conscious decision on the part of the show's crew.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Askold on February 25, 2012, 01:21:48 pm
Well since we are considering all possibilities how about Rowan Atkinson. I can imagine him as the doctor. In fact I could even show you how he would play the doctor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM

Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Dan on February 26, 2012, 04:30:40 am
What trend? Matt Smith just happened to be younger than Tennent, who happened to be younger than Eccleston.
That trend!
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Saying that there's a trend now would be like saying that there was a trend of the same thing after Pertwee, who was older than Baker, who was older than Davison.
Yes.
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It just happened that they were the people hired for the role and not a conscious decision on the part of the show's crew.
Never said it was deliberate.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 26, 2012, 12:40:54 pm
Never said it was deliberate.

Oh, ok, carry on then.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Jack Bauer on February 27, 2012, 04:37:37 am
So when is there going to be a black Doctor?

Adrian Lester, now that Hustle has finished...
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Atheissimo on February 27, 2012, 09:34:05 pm
I very much doubt it will be a well known actor. All of the actors you have listed are instantly recognisable household names in the UK, even if they're less famous in the US, and that's not Who's style.

I'd imagine they'll pick somebody we've never even heard of at this moment. Hopefully they'll pull back from the Smith mould and go back towards Ecclestone a bit, even though I like his style I'm losing my patience with all the mugging and wackyness.

I doubt it'll be Cumberbatch either, he's already a bit too famous, plus he's too associated with the human version of The Doctor: Sherlock Holmes. I've already noticed how Moffatt and Gattiss' writing for both shows have made the characters uncomfortably similar in parts, so it would just be weird.

Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 28, 2012, 04:53:59 pm
I very much doubt it will be a well known actor. All of the actors you have listed are instantly recognisable household names in the UK, even if they're less famous in the US, and that's not Who's style.

Sure it is. Eccleston wasn't uber-famous before Doctor Who, but he had turned up in 28 Days Later and The Second Coming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Coming_%28TV_serial%29). He was hardly unknown.

David Tennant was admittedly a little more obscure, but was gaining attention whilst portraying Casanova (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casanova_%282005_TV_serial%29) as somehow being Scottish.

Matt Smith, admittedly, was completely obscure.

Given this trend in reducing age and obscurity, my prediction is that the next Doctor will be a 13 year old homeless, friendless orphan found sleeping on the seating in BBC Wales' reception area.

Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: chad sexington on February 29, 2012, 02:50:24 am
And Tom Baker was a well-established actor by the time he took on the role.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: armandtanzarian on March 21, 2012, 08:23:35 am
The new Doctor might not be known just yet but we have the new companion's actress out.
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Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: SpaceProg on March 21, 2012, 02:44:14 pm
And Tom Baker was a well-established actor by the time he took on the role.
Kinda sorta.  He still kept his day job of building construction until he took on the DW role.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Meshakhad on March 21, 2012, 03:14:42 pm
Cleese. Because it would be HILARIOUS.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 22, 2012, 07:54:13 am
The new Doctor might not be known just yet but we have the new companion's actress out.

The curiously unreported name of said actress being Jenna Louise-Coleman, who apparently played a lesbian in Emmerdale and a schoolgirl in Waterloo Road. I can't help but detect a subtle trajectory here.

(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/03/jenna-louise_coleman_-_p_2099.jpg)
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: armandtanzarian on March 24, 2012, 05:26:06 am
(http://blastr.com/assets_c/2012/03/Jenna-Louise-Coleman-tardis2-thumb-498x318-87095.jpg)
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: SpaceProg on March 24, 2012, 12:11:59 pm
I may be getting old or something, but she looks about 15 or so.  Nice sweater.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Patches on March 24, 2012, 12:55:11 pm
Given that both of Moffat's Christmas specials so far have been based on existing works ("A Christmas Carol" and "The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe"), I wonder if this Christmas Special will follow suit when introducing this new companion.

If so, I think the best existing Christmas work to get a Doctor Who re-imagining would be "It's a Wonderful Life".  Series 5 and 6 were all about all the damage the Doctor has done and how much the universe has turned against him, and with him losing the Ponds in a "heartbreaking" manner in the episode prior to the special, I think it would be awesome to send him on a trip through time to see all the good he's done, and what the universe would be like without him (I know "Turn Left" already kinda did this, but the Doctor wasn't there to see any of it, and Donna didn't realize it was wrong).  And somewhere along the way he picks up new girl.  Hell, maybe she's the guardian angel.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2012, 02:20:18 pm
Back on-topic, I reckon Kevin Eldon would make a pretty good Doctor.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: SpaceProg on March 24, 2012, 02:55:23 pm
I may be odd, but I miss Donna.  I actually liked her.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 24, 2012, 08:26:56 pm
Ey, you ain't the only one.  I'm fond of pretty much all the new companions, except Rose.  Well, after a while...when whoever wrote at the time decided it'd be nifty if her character development stopped dead and turned into a borderline-Canon Sue.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: chad sexington on March 24, 2012, 08:39:30 pm
I may be odd, but I miss Donna.  I actually liked her.

Me too.  As I said some time ago, I was surprised by how well she played the role.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 24, 2012, 08:43:04 pm
I think the next Doctor should be either Eddie Izzard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Izzard) or Craig Ferguson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Ferguson).  They're not in fitting with the whole younger actor thing, but they're both awesome.  Also, British (okay, Ferguson is Scottish).  Unless they'd actually consider a Yank for the position...
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 24, 2012, 10:21:19 pm
Ey, you ain't the only one.  I'm fond of pretty much all the new companions, except Rose.  Well, after a while...when whoever wrote at the time decided it'd be nifty if her character development stopped dead and turned into a borderline-Canon Sue.

"Borderline?"
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 24, 2012, 11:25:10 pm
Just trying to be polite, lol.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: JohnE on March 25, 2012, 12:56:49 am
I may be odd, but I miss Donna.  I actually liked her.
Donna was actually my favorite companion (except maybe Amy).
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: SpaceProg on March 25, 2012, 01:30:01 am
I thought Donna was the best since Sarah Jane Smith.  Ah well. 
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: shadowpanther on March 25, 2012, 07:19:50 am
>Not thinking that Rory 'The Last Centurion' Pond was the best new companion.

GET OUT.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 25, 2012, 09:09:00 am
Back on-topic

On topic? But there are jailbait-y photos of 25 year olds to be posted!
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Patches on March 25, 2012, 09:42:42 am
Ey, you ain't the only one.  I'm fond of pretty much all the new companions, except Rose.  Well, after a while...when whoever wrote at the time decided it'd be nifty if her character development stopped dead and turned into a borderline-Canon Sue.

"Borderline?"

My main problem with Rose was that she wasn't really a character in her own right, just a person for the Doctor to play off of.  I loved the Doctor/Rose interactions and enjoyed how happy he was when she was around, but while the Doctor is a strong character on his own, Rose isn't.  Her only defining aspect by the end of her run was that she was desperate for the Doctor to not have to be alone.  Whereas Donna managed to get a whole episode to herself that was still made of awesome.  So, I like Rose in the context that I like Happy!Ten more than Emo!Ten, but as an independent character I like Donna better.

And whoever the next companion is, I just hope Eleven manages to interact with her as an equal rather than the condescending attitude he had towards Amy and Rory and... pretty much everyone else he ever interacted with.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 25, 2012, 04:19:28 pm
He does come off a bit like six in that regard.  Though, at least he makes it funny...from what I've seen, six was more just plain haughty.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Atheissimo on March 25, 2012, 07:13:13 pm
  They're not in fitting with the whole younger actor thing, but they're both awesome.  Also, British (okay, Ferguson is Scottish). 

And thus, also British. As is anyone residing on the island of Great Britain.

But yeah. I'd prefer it if they went a bit outside the 'young attractive female' archetype for a companion. How about an old person?
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 25, 2012, 10:36:50 pm
  They're not in fitting with the whole younger actor thing, but they're both awesome.  Also, British (okay, Ferguson is Scottish). 

And thus, also British. As is anyone residing on the island of Great Britain.

But yeah. I'd prefer it if they went a bit outside the 'young attractive female' archetype for a companion. How about an old person?

Well, there was Jack, Mickey, Donna and Wilfred?
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 26, 2012, 01:30:14 am
Ohhh I love Donna.
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 26, 2012, 04:51:46 pm
  They're not in fitting with the whole younger actor thing, but they're both awesome.  Also, British (okay, Ferguson is Scottish). 

And thus, also British. As is anyone residing on the island of Great Britain.

But yeah. I'd prefer it if they went a bit outside the 'young attractive female' archetype for a companion. How about an old person?

Well, there was Jack, Mickey, Donna and Wilfred?

Aye.  Donna was both young and attractive, but not Amy Pond young.  Though, I do have a preference for younger ladies...
Title: Re: The Next Doctor Who
Post by: JohnE on March 26, 2012, 09:34:05 pm
Preview of season 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iwoRA2Cas