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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 11:45:20 pm »
At this point, there's really nothing to be gained from speculation. Just have to wait for them to find where exactly the plane went down, dredge up the black box and then hopefully that'll shed some light on the situation. Assuming that oil slick is from the plane, well, that should narrow down the general area it's in quite nicely.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 01:48:31 am »
The oil slick was composed of fuel used for ships, so that's out, but Chinese satellites have spotted debris that could potentially be from the missing aircraft: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/what-happened-to-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/article17449451/
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 07:03:04 am »
They recently noted that they looked in that location, and they found nothing.

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-no-debris-spot-shown-china-images-045340150.html
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2014, 03:04:33 pm »
I wonder if there's some nefarious stuff going on waaaaay behind the scenes? Contradicting reports, phantom plane parts, confusion, a slick that means nothing. It's like someone doesn't WANT it to be found.

Even if pieces were quickly taken by the ocean currents all over the Pacific and/or Indian Oceans, something would at least been found by now.

If it was a terrorist attack, a group would've claimed responsibility by now.

The place was very new, super-safe, top-of-the line and very high-tech. It had a stellar safety record. It's couldn't have just fallen apart. No terrorists claimed any bombing. No pieces anywhere. The plane could be whole.

I have a theory of what possibly MIGHT have happened.

The plane's almost perfectly whole and at the bottom of the ocean a bit off course from when the plane was last scene.
The pilots had a history of letting passengers in the cockpit (much to the chagrin of authorities & regulations).
The two guys with the passports were probably lone-wolf nutsos like the Tsarnev brothers. The two guys waited until the pilots did the "open cockpit" thing, they quickly ran in, shut & locked the door, slashed the pilot's throats, turned off the stuff that made the plane detectable then flew out to open, deeper water & dove in! The end.

It was fast, no one could stop it. This is why no "Maydays" or pilot's sending any distress signals....they were already dead!

Hey, no one ever thought that a bunch of guys would hijack four planes with nothing but box cutters and destroy a major NYC Landmark, put a huge hole in The Pentagon & kill 3000 or so people! But it happened.

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 03:45:12 pm »
I wonder if there's some nefarious stuff going on waaaaay behind the scenes? Contradicting reports, phantom plane parts, confusion, a slick that means nothing. It's like someone doesn't WANT it to be found.

Even if pieces were quickly taken by the ocean currents all over the Pacific and/or Indian Oceans, something would at least been found by now.

If it was a terrorist attack, a group would've claimed responsibility by now.

The place was very new, super-safe, top-of-the line and very high-tech. It had a stellar safety record. It's couldn't have just fallen apart. No terrorists claimed any bombing. No pieces anywhere. The plane could be whole.

I have a theory of what possibly MIGHT have happened.

The plane's almost perfectly whole and at the bottom of the ocean a bit off course from when the plane was last scene.
The pilots had a history of letting passengers in the cockpit (much to the chagrin of authorities & regulations).
The two guys with the passports were probably lone-wolf nutsos like the Tsarnev brothers. The two guys waited until the pilots did the "open cockpit" thing, they quickly ran in, shut & locked the door, slashed the pilot's throats, turned off the stuff that made the plane detectable then flew out to open, deeper water & dove in! The end.

It was fast, no one could stop it. This is why no "Maydays" or pilot's sending any distress signals....they were already dead!

Hey, no one ever thought that a bunch of guys would hijack four planes with nothing but box cutters and destroy a major NYC Landmark, put a huge hole in The Pentagon & kill 3000 or so people! But it happened.
If they are terrorists then they most likely left something saying what there "thing" is.

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 04:01:16 pm »
Planes that crash into the ocean leave floating debris.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 04:25:42 pm »
I wonder if there's some nefarious stuff going on waaaaay behind the scenes? Contradicting reports, phantom plane parts, confusion, a slick that means nothing. It's like someone doesn't WANT it to be found.

Even if pieces were quickly taken by the ocean currents all over the Pacific and/or Indian Oceans, something would at least been found by now.

If it was a terrorist attack, a group would've claimed responsibility by now.

The place was very new, super-safe, top-of-the line and very high-tech. It had a stellar safety record. It's couldn't have just fallen apart. No terrorists claimed any bombing. No pieces anywhere. The plane could be whole.

I have a theory of what possibly MIGHT have happened.

The plane's almost perfectly whole and at the bottom of the ocean a bit off course from when the plane was last scene.
The pilots had a history of letting passengers in the cockpit (much to the chagrin of authorities & regulations).
The two guys with the passports were probably lone-wolf nutsos like the Tsarnev brothers. The two guys waited until the pilots did the "open cockpit" thing, they quickly ran in, shut & locked the door, slashed the pilot's throats, turned off the stuff that made the plane detectable then flew out to open, deeper water & dove in! The end.

It was fast, no one could stop it. This is why no "Maydays" or pilot's sending any distress signals....they were already dead!

Hey, no one ever thought that a bunch of guys would hijack four planes with nothing but box cutters and destroy a major NYC Landmark, put a huge hole in The Pentagon & kill 3000 or so people! But it happened.
If you mean the Iranian guy, I've heard he was seeking asylum in Germany and his flight had to go through Beijing. And I don't think Iranians have any bad relationship with China.
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2014, 06:10:30 pm »
They're saying that it is extremely unlikely that either of the two people with stolen passports had any connection to terrorism.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2014, 08:07:45 pm »
I wonder if there's some nefarious stuff going on waaaaay behind the scenes? Contradicting reports, phantom plane parts, confusion, a slick that means nothing. It's like someone doesn't WANT it to be found.

None of that is particularly surprising in a situation where multiple agencies in several different nations are trying to sort out what happened, especially when there's no lead agency to keep everything organized. It's a guaranteed clusterfuck.

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Even if pieces were quickly taken by the ocean currents all over the Pacific and/or Indian Oceans, something would at least been found by now.

It's a big ocean. If the plane went off course, as suspected, we're left with a very large search area to cover.

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The plane could be whole. [...]

The plane's almost perfectly whole and at the bottom of the ocean a bit off course from when the plane was last scene.

Very unlikely. A plane dropping from a cruising altitude of 30,000 or so feet would hit the water with more than enough force to rip it apart. At the very least, I'd expect it to snap in half on impact.

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The pilots had a history of letting passengers in the cockpit (much to the chagrin of authorities & regulations).

There are allegations that the co-pilot was once involved in an incident where two women were allowed inside the cockpit, but this was (as far as anyone knows) an isolated event. It's not like he's famous for opening the doors and throwing a cockpit party on every flight.

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The two guys waited until the pilots did the "open cockpit" thing, they quickly ran in, shut & locked the door, slashed the pilot's throats

As others have pointed out, there's no reason to suspect that either of them were involved in this, nor does it make much sense for them to hijack a plane just to sneakily crash it in the middle of the ocean. I also find it hard to believe that these two would have any knowledge of the pilot's identities, much less the rumours and allegations spread about them.

Not to mention that's it's rather irresponsible to make such serious accusations against people who could, for all you know, be innocent victims of a horrible tragedy, with nothing but wild speculation to back it up. These are real human beings we're talking about here, not characters in a suspense film.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2014, 09:30:48 pm »
They're saying that it is extremely unlikely that either of the two people with stolen passports had any connection to terrorism.

Yeah, I guess I was being a bit of a jerk. I don't want to pull a "NY Post-Bag Men" thing. Forgive me.

It's just so baffling. Nice strong, safe, state of the art plane, no terrorists, no pieces, no nothing! THIS IS MEGA FRIGGIN' WEIRDOSVILLE!

I also feel like dirt accusing two innocent victims of a horrible air mishap of some godawful nastiness.
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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2014, 09:35:26 pm »
As strange as it is, there has to be some logical sense behind what happened. My guess is that there might have been a mechanical thing that could have happened fast enough that the pilots couldn't respond with a mayday signal. As for the debris, I'm sure it's floating around somewhere in that big body of water known as the Pacific Ocean and we just haven't found it yet.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2014, 10:39:44 pm »
Another theory is one of the pilots just decided to kill a bunch of people.
Yeah, I know it makes know sense but nothing about this does.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2014, 11:02:27 pm »
^It's happened before, and as of now, that is what I'm leaning towards.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2014, 11:26:46 pm »
They're saying that it is extremely unlikely that either of the two people with stolen passports had any connection to terrorism.

Yeah, I guess I was being a bit of a jerk. I don't want to pull a "NY Post-Bag Men" thing. Forgive me.

It's just so baffling. Nice strong, safe, state of the art plane, no terrorists, no pieces, no nothing! THIS IS MEGA FRIGGIN' WEIRDOSVILLE!

I also feel like dirt accusing two innocent victims of a horrible air mishap of some godawful nastiness.

There are millions of commercial flights each year, and even things that are extremely statistically unlikely have to happen at some point.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2014, 07:06:34 pm »
Now, some more crazy stuff.....MIGHT involve foul play. There's been a whole bunch of new theories & reports. Unsure, however they're searching the Indian Ocean, now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/malaysia-airlines-missing-plane-radar-data-andaman-islands_n_4962171.html