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Title: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 06, 2018, 08:53:35 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EVpWDry9tBA
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: ironbite on August 06, 2018, 10:14:15 am
Man your second cousin's ass must be amazing.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2018, 05:07:40 pm
Okay let me get this straight, a girl suffering from mental illness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel) is fucking starved to death by idiots after being tortured for months in some idiot's superstitious ritual, and somehow that proves said superstition is true?  If it was true why didn't the girl survive?

Seriously go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 06, 2018, 05:56:25 pm
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proof
pruːf
noun
1.
evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.

Not a single post of Jacob Harrison's with the word "proof" in it meets this criteria. Not one.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 06, 2018, 06:17:44 pm
Okay let me get this straight, a girl suffering from mental illness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel) is fucking starved to death by idiots after being tortured for months in some idiot's superstitious ritual, and somehow that proves said superstition is true?  If it was true why didn't the girl survive?

Seriously go fuck yourself.

I know they should have given her mental health treatment while perfroming the exorcisms at the same time and giving her adequate nutrition. But if you her the recording she sounds possessed. But that was not the only clip in the video. Other footage of exorcisms are shown.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 06, 2018, 06:19:47 pm
Or, they could have gotten her mental health treatment and adequate nutrition and not bothered with the exorcisms.

Whoever did that should be charged with murder.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2018, 06:45:26 pm
^They were.  But the sentence was fairly light, the parents didn't face jail time because they had "suffered enough" while the priests paid a fine meaning they are free to kill again.

Okay let me get this straight, a girl suffering from mental illness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel) is fucking starved to death by idiots after being tortured for months in some idiot's superstitious ritual, and somehow that proves said superstition is true?  If it was true why didn't the girl survive?

Seriously go fuck yourself.

I know they should have given her mental health treatment while perfroming the exorcisms at the same time and giving her adequate nutrition. But if you her the recording she sounds possessed. But that was not the only clip in the video. Other footage of exorcisms are shown.

No she does not sound possessed.  She sounds like a girl with a mental illness being murdered by idiots like you.  As for the other footage that's just video of another mental ill woman getting assaulted and a shot of some people standing around in a room through a keyhole.  How that proves anything I have no idea.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 06, 2018, 06:54:43 pm
^They were.  But the sentence was fairly light, the parents didn't face jail time because they had "suffered enough" while the priests paid a fine meaning they are free to kill again.

Yeah, that's called a travesty of justice.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2018, 06:59:30 pm
PROOF THAT BUDDHISM IS TRUE

In Myanmar last year a Buddhist was sentenced to death for the murder of three children while trying to perform exorcism on them by beating and kicking the three year old, two year old and eight month old.  https://nationalpost.com/news/world/myanmar-exorcist-sentenced-to-death-for-killing-three-children-during-ritual

Now you may be wondering how that proves Buddhism is true, and I honestly have no idea.  But Jacob says that performing exorcism proves Catholicism is true even in cases where the victim is killed, so this should prove that Buddhism must be true too.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 06, 2018, 07:27:14 pm
^They were.  But the sentence was fairly light, the parents didn't face jail time because they had "suffered enough" while the priests paid a fine meaning they are free to kill again.

Okay let me get this straight, a girl suffering from mental illness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel) is fucking starved to death by idiots after being tortured for months in some idiot's superstitious ritual, and somehow that proves said superstition is true?  If it was true why didn't the girl survive?

Seriously go fuck yourself.

I know they should have given her mental health treatment while perfroming the exorcisms at the same time and giving her adequate nutrition. But if you her the recording she sounds possessed. But that was not the only clip in the video. Other footage of exorcisms are shown.

No she does not sound possessed.  She sounds like a girl with a mental illness being murdered by idiots like you.  As for the other footage that's just video of another mental ill woman getting assaulted and a shot of some people standing around in a room through a keyhole.  How that proves anything I have no idea.

Well according to wikipedia this is what she said. This sounds like something a possessed person would say.

In a letter to Alt in 1975, Michel wrote, "I am nothing; everything about me is vanity. What should I do? I have to improve. You pray for me" and also once told him, "I want to suffer for other people...but this is so cruel".[10] In September of the same year, Bishop Josef Stangl granted the priest Arnold Renz permission to exorcise according to the Rituale Romanum of 1614, but ordered total secrecy.[16][note 1] Renz performed the first session on 24 September. Michel began talking increasingly about "dying to atone for the wayward youth of the day and the apostate priests of the modern church", and she refused to eat towards the end.

In the second one, notice how the women calms down indicating that an exorcism has been performed and the demon was driven out.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 06, 2018, 07:48:40 pm
Oh, meanwhile...

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Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church

Modern science: Really? The Catholic Church fought against science at every turn until it was dragged, kicking and screaming, into accepting the findings of science.

Free-market economics: Oh, hello, Tenth Commandment.

Art and music: I will grant this one, except that we have to remember it in the context of the cultural hegemony the Church enjoyed in Europe.

Human rights: http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

Free and equal in dignity? Not if you're a woman.

Everyone is entitled to rights? Not if you belong to the wrong religion.

Right to life, liberty, and security of the person? Not if you question Church doctrine.

Slavery? The Catholic Church effectively practices slavery today, when you consider the treatment of nuns.

Torture? Not if you run afoul of the Inquisition.

Recognition everywhere as a person? Not if you're a woman.

Equal before the law? Not if you're an apostate.

Remedy for violating rights? What rights?

Arbitrary arrest? Again, the Inquisition.

Fair and public hearing by an impartial tribunal? Not if you question the Church.

Innocent until proven guilty? Since when?

Privacy? Not if you want to control your own body and you're a woman.

Freedom of movement? I mean, I guess, technically, maybe, but they backed a social order that effectively denied this right to serfs.

Asylum? Not when the hand of the Church reaches everywhere.

I'll confess to not knowing about the denying a nationality point.

Marriage with consent and equal rights? Nope, the woman is subject to the man.

Property? Give us your tithe!

Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion? The Bible contains thoughtcrimes.

Freedom of opinion and expression? Not if it's an opinion contrary to the Church.

Peaceful assembly? Not if it's to protest the Church.

Compulsion to belong to an association? You must join the Church!

Choosing representatives? Do what your priest tells you.

Social security? No, you're going to break your back working for your feudal master and get crumbs for it.

Right to work and free choice of employment? WORK, SERF!

Rest and leisure? WORK, SERF! (Or go to Church if it's a Sunday.)

Standard of living? WORK, SERF!

Education? No, you get brainwashed with Church doctrine.

Culture? Only if it's Church-approved.

Fully realizing these rights and freedoms? Ha ha, we hate these rights and freedoms!

Duties to the community? No, you have duties to your betters and they can work you to death.

And we act to destroy these rights and freedoms all the damn time.

Fuck off.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 06, 2018, 08:10:00 pm
Oh, meanwhile...

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Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church

Modern science: Really? The Catholic Church fought against science at every turn until it was dragged, kicking and screaming, into accepting the findings of science.

Free-market economics: Oh, hello, Tenth Commandment.

Art and music: I will grant this one, except that we have to remember it in the context of the cultural hegemony the Church enjoyed in Europe.

Human rights: http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

Free and equal in dignity? Not if you're a woman.

Everyone is entitled to rights? Not if you belong to the wrong religion.

Right to life, liberty, and security of the person? Not if you question Church doctrine.

Slavery? The Catholic Church effectively practices slavery today, when you consider the treatment of nuns.

Torture? Not if you run afoul of the Inquisition.

Recognition everywhere as a person? Not if you're a woman.

Equal before the law? Not if you're an apostate.

Remedy for violating rights? What rights?

Arbitrary arrest? Again, the Inquisition.

Fair and public hearing by an impartial tribunal? Not if you question the Church.

Innocent until proven guilty? Since when?

Privacy? Not if you want to control your own body and you're a woman.

Freedom of movement? I mean, I guess, technically, maybe, but they backed a social order that effectively denied this right to serfs.

Asylum? Not when the hand of the Church reaches everywhere.

I'll confess to not knowing about the denying a nationality point.

Marriage with consent and equal rights? Nope, the woman is subject to the man.

Property? Give us your tithe!

Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion? The Bible contains thoughtcrimes.

Freedom of opinion and expression? Not if it's an opinion contrary to the Church.

Peaceful assembly? Not if it's to protest the Church.

Compulsion to belong to an association? You must join the Church!

Choosing representatives? Do what your priest tells you.

Social security? No, you're going to break your back working for your feudal master and get crumbs for it.

Right to work and free choice of employment? WORK, SERF!

Rest and leisure? WORK, SERF! (Or go to Church if it's a Sunday.)

Standard of living? WORK, SERF!

Education? No, you get brainwashed with Church doctrine.

Culture? Only if it's Church-approved.

Fully realizing these rights and freedoms? Ha ha, we hate these rights and freedoms!

Duties to the community? No, you have duties to your betters and they can work you to death.

And we act to destroy these rights and freedoms all the damn time.

Fuck off.

1. Here is a list of 11 top Catholic historical scientists https://epicpew.com/11-amazing-catholic-scientists-you-should-know/

2. The 10th commandment was specifically about coveting your neighbor’s goods not about how the economy should run. There were merchants and guilds in Medieval Catholic Europe.

3. Here is the role of the Catholic Church in promoting human rights. https://www.ewtn.com/library/HUMANITY/HUMNRTS.HTM
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 06, 2018, 08:16:48 pm
1 and 3. Sorry, I'm going to need sources I can trust to be objective and not just Catholic apologist sites.

2. Without coveting, there is no capitalism.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2018, 08:29:28 pm


Well according to wikipedia this is what she said. This sounds like something a possessed person would say.

In a letter to Alt in 1975, Michel wrote, "I am nothing; everything about me is vanity. What should I do? I have to improve. You pray for me" and also once told him, "I want to suffer for other people...but this is so cruel".[10] In September of the same year, Bishop Josef Stangl granted the priest Arnold Renz permission to exorcise according to the Rituale Romanum of 1614, but ordered total secrecy.[16][note 1] Renz performed the first session on 24 September. Michel began talking increasingly about "dying to atone for the wayward youth of the day and the apostate priests of the modern church", and she refused to eat towards the end.

In the second one, notice how the women calms down indicating that an exorcism has been performed and the demon was driven out.

 How does that sound like something a possessed person would say?  Dying to atone for others sounds like Jesus not a demon.  She was mentally ill not possessed.

And shock, she calmed down when they stopped attacking her.  That's a real big surprise.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 06, 2018, 08:46:34 pm


Well according to wikipedia this is what she said. This sounds like something a possessed person would say.

In a letter to Alt in 1975, Michel wrote, "I am nothing; everything about me is vanity. What should I do? I have to improve. You pray for me" and also once told him, "I want to suffer for other people...but this is so cruel".[10] In September of the same year, Bishop Josef Stangl granted the priest Arnold Renz permission to exorcise according to the Rituale Romanum of 1614, but ordered total secrecy.[16][note 1] Renz performed the first session on 24 September. Michel began talking increasingly about "dying to atone for the wayward youth of the day and the apostate priests of the modern church", and she refused to eat towards the end.

In the second one, notice how the women calms down indicating that an exorcism has been performed and the demon was driven out.

 How does that sound like something a possessed person would say?  Dying to atone for others sounds like Jesus not a demon.  She was mentally ill not possessed.

And shock, she calmed down when they stopped attacking her.  That's a real big surprise.

1. But why would she think that she needed to die to atone for others since she wasn’t Jesus?

2. She was sitting up and then collapsed back after the Exorcism was performed indicating that a demon was driven from her. And before the demon was driven out, notice how she was freaking out the most when the cross was put on her. That also indicates that she was possessed.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: niam2023 on August 06, 2018, 09:01:52 pm
I'll be plainly honest, you're more fun when you're talking about parallel universes.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2018, 09:03:13 pm
1. But why would she think that she needed to die to atone for others since she wasn’t Jesus?

BECAUSE SHE WAS MENTALLY ILL STUPID FUCKING FUCK.  What on earth makes that less likely then possession? 


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2. She was sitting up and then collapsed back after the Exorcism was performed indicating that a demon was driven from her. And before the demon was driven out, notice how she was freaking out the most when the cross was put on her. That also indicates that she was possessed.

She was freaking out because she was being pushed down by screaming people, like you would be.  Falling down after an exhausting and frightening experience does not mean she was possessed.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 07, 2018, 01:21:18 am
Jacob, since Wikipedia is your go to font of all knowledge let's just skip to the section on what scientists (read people who know what the fuck they're talking about) know about the subject.

On Demonic possession:

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According to Augustine Calmet, several obsessions and possessions noted in the New Testament were simple maladies or fantastic fallacies which made it believed that such persons were possessed by the devil. The ignorance of the people maintained this prejudice, and their being totally unacquainted with physicians and medicine served to strengthen such ideas.[A 2]

Those who profess a belief in demonic possession have sometimes ascribed to possession the symptoms associated with physical or mental illnesses, such as hysteria, mania, psychosis,[34] Tourette syndrome, epilepsy,[35] schizophrenia,[36] conversion disorder or dissociative identity disorder.[37] It is also not uncommon to ascribe the experience of sleep paralysis to demonic possession, although it's not a physical or mental illness.[38] Demonic possession is not a valid psychiatric or medical diagnosis recognized by either the DSM-5 or the ICD-10.[39]

Additionally, there is a form of monomania called demonomania or demonopathy in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.[40]
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On Spirit possession:

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Scientific views
Cultural anthropology
The anthropologist I.M. Lewis noted that women are more likely to be involved in spirit possession cults than men are, and postulated that such cults act as a means of compensation for their exclusion from other spheres within their respective cultures.[4]

Physical anthropology
Anthropologists Alice B. Kehoe and Dody H. Giletti argued that the reason that women are more commonly seen in Afro-Eurasian spirit possession cults is because of deficiencies in thiamine, tryptophan-niacin, calcium, and vitamin D. They argued that a combination of poverty and food taboos cause this problem, and that it is exacerbated by the strains of pregnancy and lactation. They postulated that the involuntary symptoms of these deficiencies affecting their nervous systems have been institutionalized as spirit possession.[3]

Psychology
Spirit possession is not recognized as a psychiatric or medical diagnosis by the DSM-IV or the ICD-10. People alleged to be possessed by spirits sometimes exhibit symptoms similar to those associated with mental illnesses such as psychosis, hysteria, mania, Tourette's syndrome, epilepsy, schizophrenia, or dissociative identity disorder,[47][48][49] including involuntary, uncensored behavior, and an extra-human, extra-social aspect to the individual's actions.[50] In cases of dissociative identity disorder in which the alter personality is questioned as to its identity, 29 percent are reported to identify themselves as demons.[51] Physicians regard this as a mental disease called demonomania or demonopathy, a monomania in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.[52]

To wit, possession is a delusion or impression of a delusion caused by psychological, psychiatric, physiological, dietary and cultural factors. It is a cultural artifact like "race", it has no independent measurable meaning. It is a way of describing something when, for cultural, medical or other reasons people don't know (or don't want to know) what the fuck is wrong with someone when they're acting weird.

Since you accept content from Wikipedia as being true, this should be the end of the matter. Now stop babbling about supernatural possession because it isn't a thing FFS!
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 07, 2018, 11:03:12 am
Jacob, since Wikipedia is your go to font of all knowledge let's just skip to the section on what scientists (read people who know what the fuck they're talking about) know about the subject.

On Demonic possession:

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According to Augustine Calmet, several obsessions and possessions noted in the New Testament were simple maladies or fantastic fallacies which made it believed that such persons were possessed by the devil. The ignorance of the people maintained this prejudice, and their being totally unacquainted with physicians and medicine served to strengthen such ideas.[A 2]

Those who profess a belief in demonic possession have sometimes ascribed to possession the symptoms associated with physical or mental illnesses, such as hysteria, mania, psychosis,[34] Tourette syndrome, epilepsy,[35] schizophrenia,[36] conversion disorder or dissociative identity disorder.[37] It is also not uncommon to ascribe the experience of sleep paralysis to demonic possession, although it's not a physical or mental illness.[38] Demonic possession is not a valid psychiatric or medical diagnosis recognized by either the DSM-5 or the ICD-10.[39]

Additionally, there is a form of monomania called demonomania or demonopathy in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.[40]
.

On Spirit possession:

Quote
Scientific views
Cultural anthropology
The anthropologist I.M. Lewis noted that women are more likely to be involved in spirit possession cults than men are, and postulated that such cults act as a means of compensation for their exclusion from other spheres within their respective cultures.[4]

Physical anthropology
Anthropologists Alice B. Kehoe and Dody H. Giletti argued that the reason that women are more commonly seen in Afro-Eurasian spirit possession cults is because of deficiencies in thiamine, tryptophan-niacin, calcium, and vitamin D. They argued that a combination of poverty and food taboos cause this problem, and that it is exacerbated by the strains of pregnancy and lactation. They postulated that the involuntary symptoms of these deficiencies affecting their nervous systems have been institutionalized as spirit possession.[3]

Psychology
Spirit possession is not recognized as a psychiatric or medical diagnosis by the DSM-IV or the ICD-10. People alleged to be possessed by spirits sometimes exhibit symptoms similar to those associated with mental illnesses such as psychosis, hysteria, mania, Tourette's syndrome, epilepsy, schizophrenia, or dissociative identity disorder,[47][48][49] including involuntary, uncensored behavior, and an extra-human, extra-social aspect to the individual's actions.[50] In cases of dissociative identity disorder in which the alter personality is questioned as to its identity, 29 percent are reported to identify themselves as demons.[51] Physicians regard this as a mental disease called demonomania or demonopathy, a monomania in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.[52]

To wit, possession is a delusion or impression of a delusion caused by psychological, psychiatric, physiological, dietary and cultural factors. It is a cultural artifact like "race", it has no independent measurable meaning. It is a way of describing something when, for cultural, medical or other reasons people don't know (or don't want to know) what the fuck is wrong with someone when they're acting weird.

Since you accept content from Wikipedia as being true, this should be the end of the matter. Now stop babbling about supernatural possession because it isn't a thing FFS!

But psychologists can never explain the scientific cause of demonomania/demonopathy. Why would people have a demon as part of their dissociative identity disorder.

Also here is another video that proves that demons are real proving that Christianity is real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6piZMcTZic
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 07, 2018, 11:10:51 am
Demons being real would not prove, in any way, the truth of Christianity.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 07, 2018, 11:35:24 am
Furthermore, even if you are correct in that there isn't a more logical explanation for possession (there is, obviously, but let's pretend for a moment that it's not for the sake of argument), that doesn't prove an entire religion. Much like anything else, Christianity needs positive proof of its specific claims, not evidence that a competing hypothesis is false. Proving an alternative false without proving your thing means we don't know the answer, not we know that your  thing is correct. With this in mind, to prove Christianity is true, you need to objectively prove that a deity as described in the bible exists, is the only one of its kind, created the entire universe, chooses whether or not to have people tortured for all eternity according to the criteria laid out in the Bible, and last but not least, had a human avatar of itself nailed to a couple of planks by a regional superpower just over 2000 years ago.

Again, disproving contradictory ideas is nowhere near good enough for us to accept Christianity. You need to present objective evidence that Christianity is true (not just something vaguely supernatural, but specifically Christianity).

Of course, you're not going to do that. Not least because you can't, because no such evidence exists in the first place. Even Christians and other religoes are largely aware of this. That's why they never go that route in the first place, and instead just appeal to emotions. Hence why they try to lay claim to morality, or convince people that blind faith for the sake of blind faith in unsubstantiated bullshit is a somehow a good thing that means you're totally a good person. But no, if you think you can succeed where religious nutjobs of all flavours have tried and failed for all of recorded human history, I for one would love to hear it.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Jacob Harrison on August 07, 2018, 12:42:12 pm
Furthermore, even if you are correct in that there isn't a more logical explanation for possession (there is, obviously, but let's pretend for a moment that it's not for the sake of argument), that doesn't prove an entire religion. Much like anything else, Christianity needs positive proof of its specific claims, not evidence that a competing hypothesis is false. Proving an alternative false without proving your thing means we don't know the answer, not we know that your  thing is correct. With this in mind, to prove Christianity is true, you need to objectively prove that a deity as described in the bible exists, is the only one of its kind, created the entire universe, chooses whether or not to have people tortured for all eternity according to the criteria laid out in the Bible, and last but not least, had a human avatar of itself nailed to a couple of planks by a regional superpower just over 2000 years ago.

Again, disproving contradictory ideas is nowhere near good enough for us to accept Christianity. You need to present objective evidence that Christianity is true (not just something vaguely supernatural, but specifically Christianity).

Of course, you're not going to do that. Not least because you can't, because no such evidence exists in the first place. Even Christians and other religoes are largely aware of this. That's why they never go that route in the first place, and instead just appeal to emotions. Hence why they try to lay claim to morality, or convince people that blind faith for the sake of blind faith in unsubstantiated bullshit is a somehow a good thing that means you're totally a good person. But no, if you think you can succeed where religious nutjobs of all flavours have tried and failed for all of recorded human history, I for one would love to hear it.

In cases of possession, the possessed people often freak out the mosts when the exorcists say "In the name of the lord Jesus Christ, I command you to leave the person's body" indicating that Jesus is real and that demons fear him.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: dpareja on August 07, 2018, 12:57:41 pm
OK, now you're just pathetic.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 07, 2018, 01:31:48 pm
Swing and a miss.
Title: Re: More proof that Christianity is true
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 07, 2018, 05:05:19 pm
Furthermore, even if you are correct in that there isn't a more logical explanation for possession (there is, obviously, but let's pretend for a moment that it's not for the sake of argument), that doesn't prove an entire religion. Much like anything else, Christianity needs positive proof of its specific claims, not evidence that a competing hypothesis is false. Proving an alternative false without proving your thing means we don't know the answer, not we know that your  thing is correct. With this in mind, to prove Christianity is true, you need to objectively prove that a deity as described in the bible exists, is the only one of its kind, created the entire universe, chooses whether or not to have people tortured for all eternity according to the criteria laid out in the Bible, and last but not least, had a human avatar of itself nailed to a couple of planks by a regional superpower just over 2000 years ago.

Again, disproving contradictory ideas is nowhere near good enough for us to accept Christianity. You need to present objective evidence that Christianity is true (not just something vaguely supernatural, but specifically Christianity).

Of course, you're not going to do that. Not least because you can't, because no such evidence exists in the first place. Even Christians and other religoes are largely aware of this. That's why they never go that route in the first place, and instead just appeal to emotions. Hence why they try to lay claim to morality, or convince people that blind faith for the sake of blind faith in unsubstantiated bullshit is a somehow a good thing that means you're totally a good person. But no, if you think you can succeed where religious nutjobs of all flavours have tried and failed for all of recorded human history, I for one would love to hear it.

In cases of possession, the possessed people often freak out the mosts when the exorcists say "In the name of the lord Jesus Christ, I command you to leave the person's body" indicating that Jesus is real and that demons fear him.
Yeeeaaahhh, gimme anybody suffering a panic attack, schizophrenic episode or epileptic fit and yes, having some nutter come in and start screaming "the power of Christ Compels You" will make things worse, possibly kill them, if only because you'll be denying them the help they actually need.

You have proven that the ignorant and superstitious can make bad things worse, well done Jakey boy!