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Offline dpareja

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More rapes in India
« on: January 23, 2014, 11:58:44 am »
So I already posted this story in another thread:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-police-danish-tourist-gang-raped-after-asking-for-directions-1.2497112

The URL pretty much sums it up.

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A 51-year-old Danish tourist was gang-raped near a popular shopping area in New Delhi after she got lost and approached a group of men for directions back to her hotel, police said Wednesday.

And now there's another bad one.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/india-police-village-council-ordered-woman-s-gang-rape-1.2507649

Once again, the URL pretty much sums it up.

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A 20-year-old Indian woman said she was gang-raped on the orders of a village council because she fell in love with a man from a different religion, police said Thursday.

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According to police, the village council in Subalpur village ordered the woman to pay a fine of 25,000 rupees (nearly $500 Cdn) when her relationship with the man was discovered. But when her family said they were too poor to pay, the council ordered the gang rape.

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The West Bengal case is particularly troubling, because it was allegedly ordered by a council made up of village elders. Such councils are not legally binding in India, but they are seen as the will of the local community. The councils decide on social norms in the village, and in some cases they dictate the way women can dress or who they can marry. Those who flout the councils risk being ostracized.

So... yeah. And as much as the Indian Parliament and courts might want to try...

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India's Supreme Court has in the past issued opinions condemning the councils as illegal bodies. Several legal organizations are pushing Parliament to pass a comprehensive law that would make edicts by local councils illegal.

...it's not likely that much will change, especially considering that the Indian Constitution effectively bans the caste system and it's not like that's done anything much to it to my knowledge.
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Re: More rapes in India
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 04:32:36 pm »
Ugh, just... Ugh. The men in these stories need a good hard smack with the Empathy Bat. That said, I don't think top-down measures aimed at preventing rape are going to do much - not because the Indian government is doing anything wrong per say, but because it's considered a social norm to treat women as inferior people. Until that changes (which is the helluva lot easier said than done) any official government action will be a band-aid at best.
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Re: More rapes in India
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 02:56:35 am »
That said, I don't think top-down measures aimed at preventing rape are going to do much - not because the Indian government is doing anything wrong per say, but because it's considered a social norm to treat women as inferior people.

Top down measures can work, but they need to actually be implemented. It is all good and well to have these laws on the books, but they are barely enforced, and the people who made them barely follow those laws themselves.

You can bring about social changes by having visible women beating the system. Right now in the unlikely scenario that a rape is reported, it receives barely any attention, and most often the guys responsible walk free. The government can make visible televised crackdowns on rape with visible harsh punishments and that will begin to start changing the perceptions.

It already started a little. The gang rape on the bus that resulted in the girl dying generated enough news for the Indian people to start taking notice. Even now despite how common these headlines are, they are becoming more visible. It is being reported and people are seeing it for what it is. The perceptions are starting to change, the government can work to help that by showing visible support for women, right now though, they show more support for the rapists with how the police treat the victims.