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I sympathize completely. However, to use against us. Let me ask you a troll. On the one who pulled it. But here's the question: where do I think it might as well have stepped out of all people would cling to a layman.
So again, because Martin feared for his own life, as Zimmerman did in this case, because he's black he has no right to stand his ground.Ironbite-as per Florida law.
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
Aww, you guys rock. I feel the love... and the pitchforks and torches. Tingly!
Actually that is a good point. If Martin should have escaped from danger (rather than, shall we say "stand his ground") then why was it ok for Zimmerman to seek confrontation and shoot rather than escape when he got scared of the scary black man?
Because Martin was black.
Quote from: askold on July 20, 2013, 01:43:23 pmActually that is a good point. If Martin should have escaped from danger (rather than, shall we say "stand his ground") then why was it ok for Zimmerman to seek confrontation and shoot rather than escape when he got scared of the scary black man?The law says you can stand your ground, however the defense's argument was that a reasonable person if in fear for his life would get to someplace safe if they could. Zimmerman did not fear for his life until he was on the ground with Martin on top of him, and thus could not just run away.
So again, Martin did not have the right to stand his ground.Ironbite-is that what you're saying?
Quote from: m52nickerson on July 20, 2013, 01:48:07 pmQuote from: askold on July 20, 2013, 01:43:23 pmActually that is a good point. If Martin should have escaped from danger (rather than, shall we say "stand his ground") then why was it ok for Zimmerman to seek confrontation and shoot rather than escape when he got scared of the scary black man?The law says you can stand your ground, however the defense's argument was that a reasonable person if in fear for his life would get to someplace safe if they could. Zimmerman did not fear for his life until he was on the ground with Martin on top of him, and thus could not just run away. So Zimmerman's defense argued against Stand your ground. Got it.
Fucking being attacked. What about being followed by a suspicious looking guy in a truck?Ironbite-did Martin in fact feared for his life?
Except he wouldn't have been in that situation if he hadn't chased Martin down. And if I understand it right, Martin had no obligation to retreat and was perfectly within his rights to defend himself. Regardless of who threw the first punch, if it was Martin, I still think Zimmerman should have been held responsible for putting Martin in a position where he thought he had to attack Zimmerman to protect himself. I doubt Martin went out that night looking for a fight, unlike Zimmerman.