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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2016, 08:13:18 am »
Queen, the K Street comment wasn't anything more than just adding to why we (the little guys) can't create change. Another drop of ineffectiveness in the bucket stacked against us.
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2016, 09:35:04 am »
Queen, the K Street comment wasn't anything more than just adding to why we (the little guys) can't create change. Another drop of ineffectiveness in the bucket stacked against us.

Oh, I know. I was just drinking last night after my court win and wasn't as articulate as I could've been. My thought process when addressing it was "Rookie made a good point that when unmentioned, I should address it for the reason that he took the time to type it."

ETA: and while I was drunk last night, my points against Nicki may have been similarly inarticulate. I do not argue that Bernie should not be voted for because his platform is unrealistic and will never happen. There are many reasons to vote, or not vote, for a candidate. I simply wish to state that these are considerations that I weigh more heavily than most others, and hence my support for Clinton. I said it before, and it is in Ghoti-Lite's sig, but different people have different values and can come to different conclusions. So, to clarify, I do not think the proper way to refute our points is to argue with us over them or get into name-calling, but to state that "I value these things, and that is why I will vote for Sanders."

For all of our back and forth these last several months, I've always held this idea that it is a civil disagreement over politics. While of monumental importance, it really boils down to the subjective opinion of who is better. In this vein, it is no different than a couple arguing over which curtains best accentuate the room (not in importance, but subjectivity). You have gotten very rude with me going back to the very beginning, and I tried to be civil with you because we've both been here for several years and, at least prior to this, I've never had a problem with you. While I have been saying that you're acting like a cult, that started in the last month to some of your more vitriolic attacks on me, and I will stop saying that once the personal digs at me, and now other posters, ends. However you feel about me, I keep my word.

So, in sum, this is simply a disagreement of opinion, and I do not take anything about this difference personally. I take personally some of the vitriol that has come my way, as I am sure you take personally my cult-statements, but I am willing to bury the hatchet it you are. I really think that these are just different ideas about the best way to help our country and that everyone's heart is in the right place. And, this point about Congress is not intended from me as a knock on Bernie, but as support for my subjective position to vote Hillary.
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2016, 10:12:38 pm »
I think this might be worth a read:

https://medium.com/@lleeiii/this-is-what-happens-when-a-woman-supports-bernie-sanders-online-42b642ba673f#.257a1x998

I think the article is spuriously written. Several of the comments attack her for being liberal, and one goes so far as to use a distorted idea of socialism to say "show us your tits." Only one comment makes reference to Hillary "A supermodel dissing a former secretary of state." While that is wrong to call her "just a supermodel," I think what we're seeing is conservatives bash a woman for supporting Bernie as opposed to a Clinton equivalent of the "Bernie Bro." Nevertheless, the article is more than happy to push such a false equivalence.

While the last comment in the article mentions Hillary as well, it is not attacking her for being female as much as saying that Bernie Bros are douchebags.
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2016, 10:10:00 am »
Saw this on my facebook food this morning, along with someone I know saying that she would join that religion...
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2016, 10:18:05 pm »
I prefer this

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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2016, 10:50:29 pm »
There is a difference in that you're posting that in satire: this person did not post the Jesus comparison in jest. I am not trying to say everyone's in the cult of Bernie, but that shit like this is a little scary, and I would hope that a board that mocks fundamentalists would realize that.
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2016, 11:13:09 pm »
But that HAS to be satire, right??
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2016, 11:17:56 pm »
But that HAS to be satire, right??

It was not.
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Re: Bernie Bros Discussion
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2016, 01:18:48 am »
The Jesus comparison weasel-words so much...