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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1036 on: May 02, 2017, 05:10:42 pm »
Yeah I see the courts challenging that. He can sign away with his pen all he wants but Trump has done nothing to pass actual solid legislation.
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« Reply #1037 on: May 02, 2017, 05:18:36 pm »
Then he'll rant again. And sign another. And try to dismantle the judicial branch.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1038 on: May 02, 2017, 05:35:00 pm »
And then he'll get bored and play another round of golf in New Jersey.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1039 on: May 03, 2017, 08:58:19 pm »
So under the new draft of the AHCA, guess what counts as a "pre-existing condition"


- domestic violence
- sexual assault
- C-section
- postpartum depression

WHAT THE FUCK
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1040 on: May 03, 2017, 10:34:19 pm »
So under the new draft of the AHCA, guess what counts as a "pre-existing condition"


- domestic violence
- sexual assault
- C-section
- postpartum depression

WHAT THE FUCK

Well, obviously. If you don't understand that then you're clearly an America-hating socialist Muslim Nazi atheist commie.

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« Reply #1041 on: May 03, 2017, 10:58:28 pm »
Well it looks like they're still struggling for votes in the house at the moment. But if this passes and somehow makes it through the senate i can only see it being really bad for house repubs come 2018. If it's not already.
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« Reply #1042 on: May 04, 2017, 12:33:10 am »
Well it looks like they're still struggling for votes in the house at the moment. But if this passes and somehow makes it through the senate i can only see it being really bad for house repubs come 2018. If it's not already.

Unless they say "The Democrats did it!" and their voters still believe them. Which wouldn't be the first time they do something like that successfully.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1043 on: May 04, 2017, 02:52:31 pm »
FUCCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1044 on: May 04, 2017, 03:46:33 pm »
FUCCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

It'll still be tough to get this incarnation of the AHCA through the Senate. I'm not sure how much of it can be passed through reconciliation, and some Senators, especially those facing tough reelection challenges (like Heller in Nevada, Corker in Tennessee, or Collins in Maine, maybe even Ted Cruz (!), though he's enough of an ideologue that he might not care) may be very reluctant to vote for it even when it only has a 50-vote (plus Pence's tiebreaker) threshold. And if it needs 60, forget it. They might not even bring it to a vote, so that those vulnerable Senators don't have to go on the record as supporting or opposing it.

Ryan just needed to pass something so that he could say that he did his best to repeal the ACA. If it fails now, that's on McConnell.

EDIT: More detailed breakdown.

The AHCA has passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 217-213.

20 Republicans joined 193 Democrats in voting against; all 217 votes for were Republicans. 1 Republican did not vote. Speaker Ryan elected to vote.

Republicans voting against: Biggs (AR-5th), Coffman (CO-6th), Comstock (VA-10th), Costello (PA-6th), Dent (PA-15th), Donovan (NY-11th), Fitzpatrick (PA-8th), Herrera Beutler (WA-3rd), Hurd (TX-23rd), Jones (NC-3rd), Joyce (OH-14th), Katko (NY-24th), Lance (NJ-7th), LoBiondo (NJ-2nd), Massie (KY-4th), Meehan (PA-7th), Reichert (WA-8th), Ros-Lehtinen (FL-27th), Smith (NJ-4th), Turner (OH-10th).

Not voting: Newhouse (R-WA-4th)

EDIT #2:

Apparently, the big stumbling blocks in the Senate are two provisions in the House bill.

First, defunding Planned Parenthood. Both Sens. Collins and Murkowski have said they will not vote for any bill that includes that provision.

Second, eliminating the Medicaid expansion. Sen. Portman has said that he will not vote for any bill that eliminates Ohio's Medicaid expansion.

That takes them to 49 on the House bill right there, and means that any compromise between the House and the Senate will have to retain either the Medicaid expansion or the funding for Planned Parenthood, and even then vulnerable Senators like Heller and Corker might feel too much heat from their constituents to vote for it.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1045 on: May 04, 2017, 04:38:12 pm »
So the best thing to do is to take the people who voted yes in states where this is set to hurt the most and turn up the heat on those Reps which will have the slower Senate eye this bill like the political poison that it is.

Ironbite-though it might just die because McConnell is very found of power

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1046 on: May 05, 2017, 04:49:02 am »
I just read a piece about Kimmel's health care monologue in a Finnish newspaper. I laughed out loud when I read the last sentence: "President Trump has not yet tweeted about the subject."

Granted, it is after a short mention about Obama's tweet but it is so telling about what we have learned to expect from Trump.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1047 on: May 07, 2017, 12:35:22 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxWEHTQnecI

President Bill Maher delivers his State of the Union address. (NSFW for language.)
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1048 on: May 07, 2017, 09:54:58 am »
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/this-is-not-the-story-we-want-reporters-chased-out-of-meeting-with-kushner-family-fleecing-chinese-investors/

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Reporters alerted to the Bejing event, billed by host Chinese company Qiaowa in their brochures as “Invest $500,000 and immigrate to the United States,” were quickly ushered out as the event started and Kushner’s sister began her sales pitch.

According to the Post, reporters who had initially been seated at the very back of the ballroom were told they would have to leave by a public relations aide saying foreign reporters were disturbing the “stability” of the program. One reporter had their backpack and phone grabbed by an event organizer as reporters were blocked from asking event attendees questions as they exited the ballroom.

Asked why reporters were booted, a public relations aide stated, “This is not the story we want.”

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