Scott Walker is, if I remember correctly, extremely unpopular. That he won reelection after being recalled would baffle me if I didn't know how bad this state's gerrymandering is.
If you’re gonna run in Texas.
You can’t be a liberal man.
Oh I really hope Cruz will get destroyed by this guy. I have no faith in it but I really hope he does.
Texas had a 100%+ increase in Democratic voting yesterday. It's such a turnout that the GOP launched a lawsuit in order to throw the Democrats off the ballot completely.
Ironbite-they're seeing the growing storm and they're trying to stop it any way they can.
The blue wave is happening. I hope Trump is getting nervous.
Lamb confirmed for winner. Also I got a robocall survey today, so that's how you know that the election is coming.
Dpareja saying he would not blame Saccone due to how close it was...
...would you also not blame Judge Moore for challenging his results?
I cannot help but feel this arbitrary skepticism is due to Lamb not exactly being the purest of leftists.
Dpareja saying he would not blame Saccone due to how close it was...
...would you also not blame Judge Moore for challenging his results?
I cannot help but feel this arbitrary skepticism is due to Lamb not exactly being the purest of leftists.
I am not concerned by such quibbles, least of all in the favor of a creature like Saccone or Moore and giving them the benefit of a recount. Neither Saccone nor Moore in my view deserve the potential benefit of a recount.
I won't lie, if the beneficiary of a recount would be a Democratic nominee, I would be all for it.
All these legalese files and such you've recounted hold no importance to me. What matters is my ideological friend Conor Lamb won.
Niam takes great pride in being edgier than thou. Personally, I wouldn't take him especially seriously.
I am not edgier than thou with this. I have shared my exact views on the subject.
I am not concerned by such quibbles, least of all in the favor of a creature like Saccone or Moore and giving them the benefit of a recount. Neither Saccone nor Moore in my view deserve the potential benefit of a recount.
I won't lie, if the beneficiary of a recount would be a Democratic nominee, I would be all for it.
All these legalese files and such you've recounted hold no importance to me. What matters is my ideological friend Conor Lamb won.
A perfect example of everything wrong with modern US politics.
What, that I completely prioritize victory and screwing over the GOP and their constituents at every turn?
They made every effort to screw over my state, and possibly eliminated my good tax returns going forward.
Yes I am absolutely bitter - when they took money from me I didn't even have yet, that makes every GOP Politician and voter recipient of my resent.
https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/ex-american-nazi-party-leader-wins-gop-congressional-primary-illinois/
Well... They made their choice.
https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/ex-american-nazi-party-leader-wins-gop-congressional-primary-illinois/
Well... They made their choice.
"Choice." He was running unopposed, and will now face the aforementioned Rep. Lipinski in November.
https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/ex-american-nazi-party-leader-wins-gop-congressional-primary-illinois/
Well... They made their choice.
"Choice." He was running unopposed, and will now face the aforementioned Rep. Lipinski in November.
Why was he running unopposed? I'm no politician, but I think getting more votes than a Holocaust denier would be child's play.
https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/ex-american-nazi-party-leader-wins-gop-congressional-primary-illinois/
Well... They made their choice.
20+ point flip.
Ironbite-be nervous GOP.
I don't know. Dems are very energized while Repubs aren't. People don't tend to vote when they feel things are good, and I think Alabama and Pennsylavania are good indicators of the direction the country is going.
Special elections say otherwise.
Ironbite-they lost Alabama.
You have to understand this is difficult for Dpareja. If the Dems do as good as is projected, he can't go on about needing to follow Sanders' example and Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
R+6 overall in the Arizona 8th. That's not good for Rs. A 15-point swing towards the Dems, if replicated everywhere, would be what many might call a bloodbath at the polls.
Meanwhile Elizabeth Warren is facing an opponent who put up an ad that photoshopped a Native American headdress on her head while calling himself a "real Indian" because he is of Indian descent.
Where the fuck did this whole "Pocahontas" thing even come from in the first place?
R+6 overall in the Arizona 8th. That's not good for Rs. A 15-point swing towards the Dems, if replicated everywhere, would be what many might call a bloodbath at the polls.
And even then they'd only just take the Senate, because damn do they have a lot of Class 1 Senators.
R+6 overall in the Arizona 8th. That's not good for Rs. A 15-point swing towards the Dems, if replicated everywhere, would be what many might call a bloodbath at the polls.
And even then they'd only just take the Senate, because damn do they have a lot of Class 1 Senators.
It makes a lot of sense, when you consider which elections were 6 years ago (2012, Obama election year) and 12 years ago (2006, the last Democratic wave election).
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-millennials/exclusive-democrats-lose-ground-with-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1I10YH?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
Here's some sobering news for Democrats and cheering news for Republicans: millennial (18-34) support looks to be shifting toward the latter.
Democrats still have a lead, to be sure. But in January-March 2018, compared to the same period in 2016, Democrats lost 9 points among millennials and Republicans gained 1. In white millennials, they've drawn even, and white male millennials have flipped.
The shift was especially dramatic among young white men, who two years ago favored Democrats but now say they favor Republicans over Democrats by a margin of 46 to 37 percentThe fucking frog people are multiplying!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-millennials/exclusive-democrats-lose-ground-with-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1I10YH?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
Here's some sobering news for Democrats and cheering news for Republicans: millennial (18-34) support looks to be shifting toward the latter.
Democrats still have a lead, to be sure. But in January-March 2018, compared to the same period in 2016, Democrats lost 9 points among millennials and Republicans gained 1. In white millennials, they've drawn even, and white male millennials have flipped.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-millennials/exclusive-democrats-lose-ground-with-millennials-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1I10YH?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
Here's some sobering news for Democrats and cheering news for Republicans: millennial (18-34) support looks to be shifting toward the latter.
Democrats still have a lead, to be sure. But in January-March 2018, compared to the same period in 2016, Democrats lost 9 points among millennials and Republicans gained 1. In white millennials, they've drawn even, and white male millennials have flipped.
I'm not sure it's the Dems losing millennials so much as it is more members of Generation Z reaching voting age. The poll mentioned in the article appears to be defining millennials by age bracket rather than birth year, which is... not the best definition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfj44RnqRE
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the New York Democratic gubernatorial primary over Cynthia Nixon.
I seem to recall a speaker at an event for Clinton saying something about a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfj44RnqRE
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the New York Democratic gubernatorial primary over Cynthia Nixon.
I seem to recall a speaker at an event for Clinton saying something about a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfj44RnqRE
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the New York Democratic gubernatorial primary over Cynthia Nixon.
I seem to recall a speaker at an event for Clinton saying something about a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
ANd as usual, Dpareja will bring up any action by Clinton taken - you're actually remarkably like Fox News in that regard.
So you're just like Faux Noise then.
So you're just like Faux Noise then.
No, because they want to harm the Democratic Party, and I want to see the Democrats led by Bernie Sanders succeed.
So you're just like Faux Noise then.
No, because they want to harm the Democratic Party, and I want to see the Democrats led by Bernie Sanders succeed.
FTFY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfj44RnqRE
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the New York Democratic gubernatorial primary over Cynthia Nixon.
I seem to recall a speaker at an event for Clinton saying something about a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
ANd as usual, Dpareja will bring up any action by Clinton taken - you're actually remarkably like Fox News in that regard.
FOX News brings up Clinton because it energizes the Republican base because they hate Hillary Clinton. I bring up Clinton because I think her continued presence on the political stage is harmful to the Democratic Party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTfj44RnqRE
Hillary Clinton has endorsed Andrew Cuomo in the New York Democratic gubernatorial primary over Cynthia Nixon.
I seem to recall a speaker at an event for Clinton saying something about a special place in hell for women who don't help other women.
ANd as usual, Dpareja will bring up any action by Clinton taken - you're actually remarkably like Fox News in that regard.
FOX News brings up Clinton because it energizes the Republican base because they hate Hillary Clinton. I bring up Clinton because I think her continued presence on the political stage is harmful to the Democratic Party.
Yeah, that's the reason. [/100% Sarcasm]
I hadn't heard he was still in the running.
Ironbite-but he accepted his loss pretty graciously.
I think John Oliver was kind of critical of Obrador given his coalition included some far right parties.
Miss is within the realm of possibility. Minn is more likely to go blue overall. But we can hope for the best that both swing that way.
In what may be (yet another) harbinger for world politics, a populist left candidate just won the Presidential election in Mexico... by a landslide.
In a four-way race, Andrés Manuel López Obrador has, with a little over 75% of the votes counted, roughly 53% of all votes cast. The President of Mexico is elected by a simple popular plurality, however the last time a Presidential candidate received more than 50% of the vote was in 1988, with Carlos Salinas de Gortari receiving 50.7% in one of the last elections during the PRI's iron grip on power (1994 would see the PRI candidate drop below 50%; 2000 had PAN's Vicente Fox win with ~43% of the vote).
Apparently, the other candidates called to concede to Obrador within an hour of the polls closing, a record for contested Presidential elections in Mexico.
In what may be (yet another) harbinger for world politics, a populist left candidate just won the Presidential election in Mexico... by a landslide.
In a four-way race, Andrés Manuel López Obrador has, with a little over 75% of the votes counted, roughly 53% of all votes cast. The President of Mexico is elected by a simple popular plurality, however the last time a Presidential candidate received more than 50% of the vote was in 1988, with Carlos Salinas de Gortari receiving 50.7% in one of the last elections during the PRI's iron grip on power (1994 would see the PRI candidate drop below 50%; 2000 had PAN's Vicente Fox win with ~43% of the vote).
Apparently, the other candidates called to concede to Obrador within an hour of the polls closing, a record for contested Presidential elections in Mexico.
He's being called the Mexican Donald Trump. He's pretty blase about any real policy.
In what may be (yet another) harbinger for world politics, a populist left candidate just won the Presidential election in Mexico... by a landslide.
In a four-way race, Andrés Manuel López Obrador has, with a little over 75% of the votes counted, roughly 53% of all votes cast. The President of Mexico is elected by a simple popular plurality, however the last time a Presidential candidate received more than 50% of the vote was in 1988, with Carlos Salinas de Gortari receiving 50.7% in one of the last elections during the PRI's iron grip on power (1994 would see the PRI candidate drop below 50%; 2000 had PAN's Vicente Fox win with ~43% of the vote).
Apparently, the other candidates called to concede to Obrador within an hour of the polls closing, a record for contested Presidential elections in Mexico.
He's being called the Mexican Donald Trump. He's pretty blase about any real policy.
Though, unlike Trump, he got an actual popular majority in a real four-way race.
But that aside, we'll have to wait and see--just like with any elected leaders.
Meaning when the bubble bursts the people most hurt will be...oh, that's darling, it'll be the people in red states who seem to be benefiting at present the most. I have to wonder just what kind of number this is gonna do on Trump's supporters? I mean, considering belief in him is an opiate to these masses, and they were on copious amounts of opiates to begin with...
And considering Trump's (lack of) action on the Opioid crisis, combined with how hard this'll hit the "always vote Republican" types...
I don't mean whether they'll turn over a new electoral leaf. I mean, we might see a lot of Trump's more blue collar supporters shuffle off the earthly coil.
I don't mean whether they'll turn over a new electoral leaf. I mean, we might see a lot of Trump's more blue collar supporters shuffle off the earthly coil.
Not before the midterms, but there is some speculation that the Senate hasn't acted on the opioid crisis to any great extent because McConnell doesn't want to give Manchin, McCaskill, and Donnelly something they can call a win.
If I were the Democrats, I'd be screaming from the rooftops that the Republicans are blocking action on opioids.
I don't mean whether they'll turn over a new electoral leaf. I mean, we might see a lot of Trump's more blue collar supporters shuffle off the earthly coil.
Not before the midterms, but there is some speculation that the Senate hasn't acted on the opioid crisis to any great extent because McConnell doesn't want to give Manchin, McCaskill, and Donnelly something they can call a win.
If I were the Democrats, I'd be screaming from the rooftops that the Republicans are blocking action on opioids.
If you were the democrats, the GOP would have a super majority right now.
The difference being that Bush had 9/11 whip up the whole country into a patriotic frenzy. And nearly 80 percent approval. They probably could've justified attacking any country as long as they mentioned 9/11 Osama bin laden, al queada or WMDs. Trump doesn't have that like at all.
I don't mean whether they'll turn over a new electoral leaf. I mean, we might see a lot of Trump's more blue collar supporters shuffle off the earthly coil.
Not before the midterms, but there is some speculation that the Senate hasn't acted on the opioid crisis to any great extent because McConnell doesn't want to give Manchin, McCaskill, and Donnelly something they can call a win.
If I were the Democrats, I'd be screaming from the rooftops that the Republicans are blocking action on opioids.
If you were the democrats, the GOP would have a super majority right now.
I have a pretty low count since I don't even watch the young turks that much. I can't tolerate Cenk and don't want to give him clicks because of the whole Armenian genocide thing.
How?
Ironbite-love to see this.
You made an accusation, back it up.
Identity Politics has been used by the establishment to divide and diminish the other ideas on the left.
I see nothing sexist or racist in the video. McFeminism legitimately is just pandering garbage covering up harmful and corrupt governments and corporations.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.
You mean Russia stopped cutting them checks?
...Would Trump dare get rid of him?
That would be tantamount to implicating himself even further and let Mueller do so much more.
Best cancel midterm plans for the Democrats then. We're not taking back anything and in fact the GOP is gonna just steam roll over everything, get a super majority and install the Trump family as puppet rulers of America forever and ever amen.
Ironbite-until, we all die in 2030 from a Super flu outbreak.
I seriously think this whole Kavannaugh thing is hurting the Democrats more than it is the Republicans and with it being so close to election it could put a stop to the blue wave that people were predicting.
I seriously think this whole Kavannaugh thing is hurting the Democrats more than it is the Republicans and with it being so close to election it could put a stop to the blue wave that people were predicting.
How do you figure Texas will go Blue in the presidential race?
My grandmother used to say, a hit dog will holler, and it hollered through this room. Mr. DeSantis has spoken; first of all, he's got neo-Nazis helping him out in this state, he has spoken at racist conferences, he's accepted a contribution and would not return it from someone who referred to the former President of the United States as a "Muslim n-i-g-g-e-r" [ed: Gillum spelled it out], when asked to return that money he said no, he's using that money to now fund negative ads.
Now I'm not calling Mr. DeSantis a racist, I'm simply saying the racists believe he's a racist.
Everyone get out and vote tomorrow.
I'm preparing to get disappointed again.
One bright spot: one of the architects of the GOP's voter suppression strategy, who had some questionable things go on during his primary, Kris Kobach, lost the Governorship in Kansas.
One bright spot: one of the architects of the GOP's voter suppression strategy, who had some questionable things go on during his primary, Kris Kobach, lost the Governorship in Kansas.
->Democrats win the House, and do not do well in places we knew they were not going to do well in.
-> This is obviously a disaster and a consequence of Not Enuf Populism.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/667214148/democrat-kyrsten-sinema-wins-arizona-senate-seat?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2041&fbclid=IwAR2EFneiwHcDU1vHat6OLbLGBmuvZ70hHnxKxLzr3sKGplQR7rBpk_47zf4
Democrats win Flake's seat for the first time since 1988. This means that the maximum increase of Senate seats Republicans can win after Florida and Mississippi's special election are done is two. We know how Florida is going and Mississippi is going to a runoff, so anything can happen there.
Then I guess we should all give up hope, anyone who voted Democrat should just slit their throats, and leave this planet to a bunch of moronic mouth breathers who don't understand the catastrophic climate change that'll kill off a huge percentage of the population and change geopolitical boundaries for centuries and be done with it.
Ironbite-shut, the fuck, up.
@ ironbite: It's Dpareja dude. He'd react to winning the Senate and the House with "BUT MONEY IN POLITICS! THE PLATFORMS WERE NOT ENUF POPULIST!"
Oh no we completely understand your position. Its a position I'm tired of seeing.
ANY time there is a win in any stretch of the imagination, you come in, Dpareja, and start spouting off on how Democrats are skilled at losing, how even if they win they're not true progressives, how the REAL SUCCESS was by REAL PROGRESSIVE, while the Corrupt Business As Usual Democrats LOST LOST LOST LOST!
Because anything else would be admitting Mr. "I don't think having racist thoughts makes you racist" has problems or isn't the end all and be all.
GEE REPUBLICANS COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD TO WIN!? WHO WOULD'VE THUNK IT!?
The dude in Wisconsin is at least honest about being a total dickhead. There's an interview where he literally says that they are making the changes because they want to prevent liberal politics being made.
Gee, only now that a democrat is governor, only now are republicans doing anything resembling the "small government" they have boners for?
Gee, only now that a democrat is governor, only now are republicans doing anything resembling the "small government" they have boners for?
Because these dickheads have never, ever cared about "small government"; they just want the government to worry about two things: funding the military to invade other countries and forcing everyone to follow Modesty Culture (https://fiddlrts.blogspot.com/p/modesty-culture.html) rules? Otherwise, everything should be left to the "Free Market" (read: rich oligarchs who want even more money)...
On a lighter note, though, Sinema's victory did mean that a homophobic bigot and evangelical Christian had to swear in a bisexual atheist on a law book.
On a lighter note, though, Sinema's victory did mean that a homophobic bigot and evangelical Christian had to swear in a bisexual atheist on a law book.
I saw this all over Facebook, that's awesome.
The Prime Minister made much play last night with the rights of the individual and the dangers of people being ordered about by officials. I entirely agree that people should have the greatest freedom compatible with the freedom of others. There was a time when employers were free to work little children for sixteen hours a day. I remember when employers were free to employ sweated women workers on finishing trousers at a penny halfpenny a pair. There was a time when people were free to neglect sanitation so that thousands died of preventable diseases. For years every attempt to remedy these crying evils was blocked by the same plea of freedom for the individual. It was in fact freedom for the rich and slavery for the poor. Make no mistake, it has only been through the power of the State, given to it by Parliament, that the general public has been protected against the greed of ruthless profit-makers and property owners. The Conservative Party remains as always a class Party. In twenty-three years in the House of Commons, I cannot recall more than half a dozen from the ranks of the wage earners. It represents today, as in the past, the forces of property and privilege. The Labour Party is, in fact, the one Party which most nearly reflects in its representation and composition all the main streams which flow into the great river of our national life.
And AOC is proving what a badass she is by floating sensible ideas on how to finance a Green New Deal.
Ironbite-and the Right Wing melts down.
The controversy of the moment involves AOC’s advocacy of a tax rate of 70-80 percent on very high incomes, which is obviously crazy, right? I mean, who thinks that makes sense? Only ignorant people like … um, Peter Diamond, Nobel laureate in economics and arguably the world’s leading expert on public finance. (Although Republicans blocked him from an appointment to the Federal Reserve Board with claims that he was unqualified. Really.) And it’s a policy nobody has ever implemented, aside from … the United States, for 35 years after World War II — including the most successful period of economic growth in our history.
To be more specific, Diamond, in work with Emmanuel Saez — one of our leading experts on inequality — estimated the optimal top tax rate to be 73 percent. Some put it higher: Christina Romer, top macroeconomist and former head of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, estimates it at more than 80 percent.
And AOC is proving what a badass she is by floating sensible ideas on how to finance a Green New Deal.
Ironbite-and the Right Wing melts down.
off-topic but i like that the right is so petty they tried to say AOC was bad because of some video where she danced in it. It was literally like they're about to re-enact the plot to footloose.
This why everyone, from Trump fans to Bernie Bros, hates the mainstream media.
this ongoing back and forth between AOC and McCain isn’t really about ‘socialism’ vs capitalism or even democract vs republican, it’s about someone whose had a real job vs someone who’s never even had to think about getting one. McCain’s just mad the help is getting uppity.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
The right really does fear AOC for some reason. Like they can't really marginalize her in a way that'll make her just go away.
Ironbite-that scares them.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
The right really does fear AOC for some reason. Like they can't really marginalize her in a way that'll make her just go away.
Ironbite-that scares them.
I'm at a political science conference and can safely report that political scientists don't really know what to make of @AOC, either.
I'll tell you what's going on. She represents ME. She represents everyone I know. She represents the normal people. She cares about OUR interests. In my lifetime I have NEVER felt this represented before in government. It's time for government to work for us, as it was intended. To all the people coming out of the woodwork to spew hate: I love that she represents you too, and that her policies will benefit you as well. I feel sorry for all those that can't or won't see this.
Explaining tax rates before Reagan to 5th graders: “Imagine if you did chores for your grandma and she gave you $10. When you got home, your parents took $7 from you.” The students said: “That’s not fair!” Even 5th graders get it.
Explaining marginal taxes to a far-right former Governor:
Imagine if you did chores for abuela & she gave you $10. When you got home, you got to keep it, because it’s only $10.
Then we taxed the billionaire in town because he’s making tons of money underpaying the townspeople.
There was also her schooling democracy-stealing former Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker on marginal tax rates after she suggested the moderate policy of a 70% marginal rate on income over $10,000,000:
Imagine the frothing rage. PRESIDENT Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Pres Cortez.
Stalin Killed Tens of millions of people. Hitler killed tens of millions of people. Mao killed tens of millions of people. AOC wants to restore the tax rates to where they were under Richard Nixon.
Checks out. They are totally the same.
But I do think a system that allows billionaires to exist when there are parts of Alabama where, where people are still getting ringworm because they don't have access to public health is wrong, and I think it's wrong, I, I think that it's wrong that, that a vast majority of the country does not make a living wage, I think it's wrong that you can work a hundred hours and not feed your kids, I think it's wrong that, that corporations like Wal-Mart can, and, and Amazon can get paid, they can get paid for the, by our gov--by the government, essentially, experience a wealth transfer from the public for paying people less than a minimum wage, and it's, it not only doesn't make economic sense, but it doesn't make moral sense, and it doesn't make societal sense.
"Everything I don't like is Hitler" - Some Conservative who'sscared of the loud working class congresswomanmad the help is getting uppity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83xQt5ZMvIY
Ben Stein: AOC is no different from Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse-tung!
They really can't help themselves, can they.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83xQt5ZMvIY
Ben Stein: AOC is no different from Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse-tung!
They really can't help themselves, can they.
...Ben Stein was never funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83xQt5ZMvIY
Ben Stein: AOC is no different from Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse-tung!
They really can't help themselves, can they.
...Ben Stein was never funny.
Ben Stein? I could have easily mistaken him for Ben Shapiro, considering how the shorty is obsessed with AOC.
Heather Long (Economic Correspondent, Washington Post): There are growing calls to address these inequalities, particularly the wage inequality, with more taxes. In particular, in the United States, there's been a call by Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to tax people earning over ten million at a seventy percent tax rate. The current top rate in the United States is thirty-seven percent. Michael Dell, do you support this?
(General laughter.)
Panelist: I just wanna say, I'm thrilled that they're asking you this.
Michael Dell (CEO, Dell Technologies): Wow. Well, look, I mean, um, you know, my wife and I set up a foundation about twenty years ago and we would have contributed quite a bit more than a seventy percent tax rate on my income, on my annual income, and I feel much more comfortable with our ability as a private foundation to allocate those funds than I do giving them to the government.
Long: All right, all right.
Dell: So no, I'm not supportive of that. And (repeated multiple times) I don't think it would help the growth of the US economy,
Long: Oh, that's interesting. And can you say a little more about why? Why you don't think it would?
Dell: Well, name a country where that's worked. Ever.
Erik Brynjolfsson (Director of MIT's Initiative on the Digital Economy): The United States.
Long: Briefly, in the 80s.
Brynjolfsson: No, no, no, from about the 1930s through about the 1960s, the tax rate averaged about seventy percent. At times it was up as high as ninety-five percent, and those were actually pretty good years for growth. So, I don't have a strong opinion on that a lot, the devil is in the details, um, but I think it's, uh, there's actually a lot of economics that suggests that it's not necessarily going to hurt growth.