Violence and videogames.

[Witchyjoshy]

Pelosi makes her stance defending video games.

That's politics for ya.

Didn't she condemn video games as causing violence once or something? Or was that Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure Clinton, at one point, did bash video games.  I just can't be arsed to source it at this moment.

[RavynousHunter]

Pelosi makes her stance defending video games.

That's politics for ya.

Didn't she condemn video games as causing violence once or something? Or was that Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure Clinton, at one point, did bash video games.  I just can't be arsed to source it at this moment.

At some point?  She's done it at multiple points, Hilary Clinton's one of the big anti-game crusaders, in a similar vein to oh say...Jack Thompson.

[chitoryu12]

Pelosi makes her stance defending video games.

That's politics for ya.

Didn't she condemn video games as causing violence once or something? Or was that Hillary Clinton?

I'm pretty sure Clinton, at one point, did bash video games.  I just can't be arsed to source it at this moment.

At some point?  She's done it at multiple points, Hilary Clinton's one of the big anti-game crusaders, in a similar vein to oh say...Jack Thompson.

Just with less Batman and gay pornography whenever she's asked about it by judges.

[mellenORL]

Yeah I remember Hillary doing that crap as First Lady, testifying before congress and w/e. Those were the hearings where some naive anti game crusader lawmaker was saying first person shooters train the gamers to be perfect marksman...with real guns in rl..WTF? If it's a weapon type I've never fired before, it would take me quite a while to familiarize myself with it, no matter how many times I "fired" that "gun" in a shooter game, and if I'd never fired any real gun before, there's no way a game pad would have taught me anything.

Anyway, I'm a gamer, and I vote. Never much cared for Hillary, and damn sure wouldn't vote for her.

[chitoryu12]

Yeah I remember Hillary doing that crap as First Lady, testifying before congress and w/e. Those were the hearings where some naive anti game crusader lawmaker was saying first person shooters train the gamers to be perfect marksman...with real guns in rl..WTF? If it's a weapon type I've never fired before, it would take me quite a while to familiarize myself with it, no matter how many times I "fired" that "gun" in a shooter game, and if I'd never fired any real gun before, there's no way a game pad would have taught me anything.

Anyway, I'm a gamer, and I vote. Never much cared for Hillary, and damn sure wouldn't vote for her.

Well, modern games have at least insisted on showing people that you need to actually look down the sights to hit anything with accuracy instead of just vaguely holding the gun out and hoping that stuff hits the middle of your vision.

Hope they try to use the sight picture of the Mini-Uzi from Modern Warfare 2, though. They'll shoot over their targets' heads.

[The Illusive Man]

Yeah I remember Hillary doing that crap as First Lady, testifying before congress and w/e. Those were the hearings where some naive anti game crusader lawmaker was saying first person shooters train the gamers to be perfect marksman...with real guns in rl..WTF? If it's a weapon type I've never fired before, it would take me quite a while to familiarize myself with it, no matter how many times I "fired" that "gun" in a shooter game, and if I'd never fired any real gun before, there's no way a game pad would have taught me anything.

Anyway, I'm a gamer, and I vote. Never much cared for Hillary, and damn sure wouldn't vote for her.

Well, modern games have at least insisted on showing people that you need to actually look down the sights to hit anything with accuracy instead of just vaguely holding the gun out and hoping that stuff hits the middle of your vision.

Hope they try to use the sight picture of the Mini-Uzi from Modern Warfare 2, though. They'll shoot over their targets' heads.

Political testimony is not motivated by actual research and facts. What has been going on is yet another attempt to turn video games into a “hot button” issue.

[Sleepy]

Dammit, I just read another article today where officials investigating the Sandy Hook massacre emphasized that they found thousands of dollars worth of violent video games in the shooter's home, and that those could've inspired him.

Right, I'm sure he would've NEVER done such a thing if he didn't have those pesky video games.

*bangs head against wall*

[chitoryu12]

Dammit, I just read another article today where officials investigating the Sandy Hook massacre emphasized that they found thousands of dollars worth of violent video games in the shooter's home, and that those could've inspired him.

Right, I'm sure he would've NEVER done such a thing if he didn't have those pesky video games.

*bangs head against wall*

Thousands of dollars worth of purely VIOLENT video games?

What the hell did this guy have in his collection?

[ironbite]

That's what I wanna know.

Ironbite-though with today's prices you can rack up thousands of dollars worth of games.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Fucking brilliant!

[Witchyjoshy]

That's what I wanna know.

Ironbite-though with today's prices you can rack up thousands of dollars worth of games.

Twenty console games at full price would exceed a thousand dollars.

[chitoryu12]

That's what I wanna know.

Ironbite-though with today's prices you can rack up thousands of dollars worth of games.

Twenty console games at full price would exceed a thousand dollars.

I've been gaming since I was literally 2, and I'd be surprised if my total purchases (including everything sold or given away) even make it to $1000. And I've got two thick CD books that take four discs to a page (one of which is completely full and has a few discs doubled up), plus PC games in a separate book. The used game market makes this even cheaper, since you can get $50 or $60 games for $20 or less after waiting a year or two.

He'd need to buy 17 games brand new at the full $60 price just to make it to $1000. 20 games if they cost $50 each. The thing is, the news report specifies VIOLENT video games, and multiple thousands. I find it difficult to rack up several thousand dollars of purely violent games (with Modern Warfare being the low end for "violent" in this definition) even if every one was purchased brand new on launch day.

[ironbite]

You're also basing this off of your own definition of "violent".  To some media sources, anything that isn't Cooking Mama is "violent".

Ironbite-and again, you're basing this off of what you would do.  Who's to say he wasn't a snappy shopper and decided to just buy buy buy?

[Sylvana]

He'd need to buy 17 games brand new at the full $60 price just to make it to $1000. 20 games if they cost $50 each. The thing is, the news report specifies VIOLENT video games, and multiple thousands. I find it difficult to rack up several thousand dollars of purely violent games (with Modern Warfare being the low end for "violent" in this definition) even if every one was purchased brand new on launch day.

Violent in almost all sense of the word when being used with regards to video games basically means anything where something can be killed. This can be of a cartoon nature to qualify. Things like sim city are not considered violent, but a game like civilization is. Hence the spectrum of violence is quite large.

Then we move onto the fact that almost all triple A games cost $60 and that things like modern warfare, battlefield, call of duty and all those other realistic shooters on already on their 3rd installment of the game. It would be pretty easy to reach over $1000 of games.

Mostly though it is just sensationalist reporting.
It does not sound as intimidating to say he kept his copy of the Sims 3 next to his copy of Halo when talking about a mass shooter.

[Art Vandelay]

Mostly though it is just sensationalist reporting.

My thoughts exactly. Their definition of "thousands of dollars of violent video games" probably includes the PC/console(s) themeslves, any peripheral hardware and every non-violent game in his collection.