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Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« on: August 20, 2012, 02:42:39 pm »
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/valedictorian-denied-diploma-speech-hell-134805221.html?_esi=1

....because she said "hell" in her speech. Folks, you just can't make this shit up. She EARNED the fucking diploma, they should be required BY LAW to give it to her. How many times to priests get away with saying "hell" when they're standing on the pulpit?


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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 02:56:04 pm »
Home state, I wish I could be disappoint, but that would imply I expected better in the first place.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 02:56:50 pm »
Home state, I wish I could be disappoint, but that would imply I expected better in the first place.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 02:59:49 pm »
How the fuck is this even legal?
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 03:37:26 pm »
Don't schools typically approve these things if they might have problems with them?

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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 03:39:01 pm »
Don't schools typically approve these things if they might have problems with them?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure valedictorians have to get their speeches approved.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 03:43:03 pm »
According to the article, the version she submitted had the word "heck" instead of "hell".

I don't agree with the school, but I can (somewhat) understand them being anxious about the valedictorian using a turn of phrase some might find objectionable, especially after they cleared a non-objectionable version.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 03:48:46 pm »
According to the article, the version she submitted had the word "heck" instead of "hell".

I don't agree with the school, but I can (somewhat) understand them being anxious about the valedictorian using a turn of phrase some might find objectionable, especially after they cleared a non-objectionable version.

I can understand that as well, but the school should not get to withhold her diploma.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 03:52:17 pm »
So what is the problem with using the word 'hell'?  It's in the dictionary, It's standard English.  What ignorance.  I would like to make up for the ignorance that would deny a well-earned diploma by supplying a more forceful word: FUCK!
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 03:52:25 pm »
According to the article, the version she submitted had the word "heck" instead of "hell".

I don't agree with the school, but I can (somewhat) understand them being anxious about the valedictorian using a turn of phrase some might find objectionable, especially after they cleared a non-objectionable version.

I can understand that as well, but the school should not get to withhold her diploma.

To the best of my knowledge, the only reason a school can withhold a diploma is if you have failed to pay the fine for a stolen book or damaged property.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 04:33:41 pm »
And my valedictorian said "sexual contact" in his speech. Wow, amazing how states so close can be so different.
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 10:08:56 pm »
They probably meant they won't ceremoniously give it to her.  It'll be mailed to her more like.  That's a guess, though.  As my HS had rules like that against bad behavior during the grad ceremony, but nothing so puritanical as that.

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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2012, 11:24:48 pm »
I just want to know who the fuck considers hell a swear word, how can a fictional place be a bloody curseword.
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 01:49:43 am »
I definately have a problem with withholding the diploma over using the word "Hell."

However,

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In her speech—inspired by a similar address in "Eclipse: The Twilight Saga"—Kaitlin recounted how annoying it is to be constantly asked what she wants to do as graduation approached.

I'm perfectly okay with withholding the diploma for referencing Twilight in the speech.  Valedictorians should not be celebrating the rape of literature like that.   :P
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Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma in Oklahoma....
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 06:00:50 am »
They probably meant they won't ceremoniously give it to her.  It'll be mailed to her more like.  That's a guess, though.  As my HS had rules like that against bad behavior during the grad ceremony, but nothing so puritanical as that.

The article states that they will not give her her diploma until she gives them a written apology.