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Community => Religion and Philosophy => Topic started by: fancy_kitten on March 16, 2014, 06:30:03 am
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Apologies if this has been posted already, but I didn't see it anywhere. I also apologize if this is the wrong place. Anyway! here is the best article I could find: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/03/15/fred-phelps-founder-of-the-god-hates-fags-westboro-baptist-church-is-on-the-edge-of-death/ It seems everyone is jumping on this story, and I thought you guys would be interested in discussing it as much as anyone. My personal thoughts on this are varied and kind of jumbled right now, and the thing that interests me most is that he was apparently excommunicated? I'm really disappointed that the only people who know exactly why will probably never give us the real truth, but it's nice to think that the founder of that hateful group didn't believe his own crap and had a change of heart near the end. I guess the most tragic thing about his death to me is that he is leaving the world after living the way he did. I know it probably sounds super corny, but if I were near his deathbed right now I'd honestly kind of want to hug him, even if he doesn't deserve it. I can't imagine what it must feel like preparing to die surrounded by people you've tortured, after devoting your life to torturing people, but it's probably pretty awful. What do you think?
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I would really like to hear about the apparent excommunication. And if he has been excommunicated how can the church be keeping the rest of his family away from him?
If he has been excommunicated will his own church picket his funeral?
I would like to think that his funeral could be undisturbed but then I think that his family might only understand the terrible pain they cause if it is inflicted on them? Then again that assumes that they do in fact love him and wouldn't rather the attention.
Ultimately though I hope his grave becomes a gay hang out -hell I would get my picture taken over his grave kissing a bloke and I am straight.
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
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Eeh, we all gotta die, eventually. Fred Phelps is no exception.
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.
Not even necessarily that. The WBC is the prime candidate for a purity crisis and Phelps apparently just wasn't hateful enough.
I wonder who they replaced him with?
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.
Not even necessarily that. The WBC is the prime candidate for a purity crisis and Phelps apparently just wasn't hateful enough.
I wonder who they replaced him with?
Adolf Stalin.
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I'm with the commentors (sp?) saying to let the family have their funeral in peace. I don't like WBC either...hell, I once got my picture in the paper arguing with them at a counterprotest...but I think staging a protest, while possibly justified, would only fuel their martyrdom complex and make them double down on their stance. Better to let them fade into obscurity.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."- Mahatma Gandhi
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
Apparently from what I heard, he was excommunicated back in August because his health took a downturn. If that's true, then it's amazing just how the WBC regards people when they'll kick out their own founder because of something like that.
It would be interesting to see if the WBC protests Fred Phelps' funeral, and to see what their reason would be for the protests.
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The article does not say Fred Phelps was excommunicated. It was talking about other former members of the church that have been.
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The article does not say Fred Phelps was excommunicated. It was talking about other former members of the church that have been.
Oh, that explains that. I mean, them excommunicating him for doing what a lot of elderly do on a regular basis would be...well...weird. I was about to go "Did they expect him to be immortal?".
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I think it'd be appropriate to have a bunch of people picket his funeral and if anyone asks why they are doing such awful things to them
"Hey bitch, you reap what you sow"
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Read it again, Fred was excommunicated in August 2013.
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Fork 'im. He was beneath contempt.
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Read it again, Fred was excommunicated in August 2013.
Yes it does, I read it wrong.
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Maybe he started to mellow out in his old age? Or went senile?
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The article does not say Fred Phelps was excommunicated. It was talking about other former members of the church that have been.
The article quotes Fred Phelps' son, Nate Phelps, saying that Fred was excommunicated in August 2013;
I’ve learned that my father, Fred Phelps, Sr., pastor of the “God Hates Fags” Westboro Baptist Church, was ex-communicated from the “church” back in August of 2013. He is now on the edge of death at Midland Hospice house in Topeka, Kansas.
I’m not sure how I feel about this. Terribly ironic that his devotion to his god ends this way. Destroyed by the monster he made.
I feel sad for all the hurt he’s caused so many. I feel sad for those who will lose the grandfather and father they loved. And I’m bitterly angry that my family is blocking the family members who left from seeing him, and saying their good-byes.
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And not a single fuck was given.
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I wonder what got him ex-communicated. didn't he start the church? Oh well, he can't die soon enough for me anyways
Given his virulent homophobia my guess is he confessed to having engaged in a homosexual act or two thousand.
Not even necessarily that. The WBC is the prime candidate for a purity crisis and Phelps apparently just wasn't hateful enough.
I wonder who they replaced him with?
Shirly Phelps-Roper who's more hateful then her father if you can believe that.
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I'm with the commentors (sp?) saying to let the family have their funeral in peace. I don't like WBC either...hell, I once got my picture in the paper arguing with them at a counterprotest...but I think staging a protest, while possibly justified, would only fuel their martyrdom complex and make them double down on their stance. Better to let them fade into obscurity.
Also, it would be the most hypocritical thing in the world.
"Picketing funerals because you don't like gay people is horrible! Picketing funerals because you don't like homophobes is perfectly fine, though."
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I'm with the commentors (sp?) saying to let the family have their funeral in peace. I don't like WBC either...hell, I once got my picture in the paper arguing with them at a counterprotest...but I think staging a protest, while possibly justified, would only fuel their martyrdom complex and make them double down on their stance. Better to let them fade into obscurity.
Also, it would be the most hypocritical thing in the world.
"Picketing funerals because you don't like gay people is horrible! Picketing funerals because you don't like homophobes is perfectly fine, though."
They wouldn't just be picketing the funeral of a homophobe though, they'd be picketing the funeral of someone who organized and funded a group that picketed thousands of funerals of people who died in far more tragic ways than going out naturally in your old age. I don't really think it would be that hypocritical, not unless they did it to someone who was in no way affiliated with the WBC and didn't support their actions, but happened to be homophobic. I'm not saying I'm for it at all, forgive one's enemies and all, but I really don't think it'd be unjustified if someone did or wanted to.
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They wouldn't just be picketing the funeral of a homophobe though, they'd be picketing the funeral of someone who organized and funded a group that picketed thousands of funerals of people who died in far more tragic ways than going out naturally in your old age
Fair enough, but I don't see that as a meaningful difference. "Picketing funerals is a pretty shitty thing to do" seems like the basic reason to be opposed to Phelps, not "picketing funerals of unrelated people who died at war is a shitty thing to do".
Granted, if someone's opposition to Phelps was strictly that he picketed military funerals over gay rights, as opposed to that he picketed funerals at all, sure, they're not being hypocrites*. I find it hard to accept that Phelps' problem was solely that he picketed the wrong funerals for the wrong reason and if he had chosen a suitably horrible dead person and a different cause we would all be cheering right next to him, though.
*Also known as the "You can't fail to honour your principles if you don't have any" defence against hypocrisy.
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I gotta wonder why they would kick the old prune out? He started the darn thing! It's HIS hate cult! Either he had an epiphany & repented of his evil ways, was caught getting all gay with a guy, expressed something gay or they're so deranged that getting old and dying is a sin!
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I'm honestly not sure what picketing his funeral would accomplish, besides fueling the WBC's martyr
delusion complex. I mean, yeah, he's a shitbag, but there's really no point in making a big ruckus next to his corpse.
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The comments section in that blog post does include some posts that say the church essentially teaches that dying at ALL means God hates you, and for this reason they expected Fred to be immortal. They don't provide citations, though, so take that with a grain of sodium-based seasoning.
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They wouldn't just be picketing the funeral of a homophobe though, they'd be picketing the funeral of someone who organized and funded a group that picketed thousands of funerals of people who died in far more tragic ways than going out naturally in your old age
Fair enough, but I don't see that as a meaningful difference. "Picketing funerals is a pretty shitty thing to do" seems like the basic reason to be opposed to Phelps, not "picketing funerals of unrelated people who died at war is a shitty thing to do".
Granted, if someone's opposition to Phelps was strictly that he picketed military funerals over gay rights, as opposed to that he picketed funerals at all, sure, they're not being hypocrites*. I find it hard to accept that Phelps' problem was solely that he picketed the wrong funerals for the wrong reason and if he had chosen a suitably horrible dead person and a different cause we would all be cheering right next to him, though.
*Also known as the "You can't fail to honour your principles if you don't have any" defence against hypocrisy.
I agree, I guess the real thing that would define the act of doing to Phelps what he and his family did to us as hypocritical would be whether one considered his actions wrong because of who he did it to, or because harassing funeral goers is intrinsically wrong.
I gotta wonder why they would kick the old prune out? He started the darn thing! It's HIS hate cult! Either he had an epiphany & repented of his evil ways, was caught getting all gay with a guy, expressed something gay or they're so deranged that getting old and dying is a sin!
Even considering who we're talking about, I doubt it's the latter. Considering how much they loved publicity and getting people violently riled up, they had to know that it wouldn't be unheard of for someone to drive by one of their protests and toss a lit Molotov into the crowd. If putting yourself at risk for dying were a sin to them, their own protests would have been abominations in their eyes. My guesses are either your first one (an epiphany) or his kids decided to get revenge in a way they knew would really crush him.
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When Fred croaks, my guess is this is what will happen to him:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ooKpgTbVah4/Tz6oTwWth4I/AAAAAAAAA4Y/jthYvyQOWuo/s1600/cartoonwest.jpg)
Seems like a fitting hell for a man who thrived off attention.
Anyway, the WBC has truly shown how horrible it is. Keep in mind, this is a new low for a group so bad, the Ku Klux Klan has legitimate reason to look down on them. It's one church I wouldn't mind seeing burn down.
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The church is refusing to say why he was excommunicated:
"We don't owe any talk to you about that," (WBC spokesman Steve) Drain said. "We don't discuss our internal church dealings with anybody. It's only because of his notoriety that you are asking.""
http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-16/wbc-spokesman-said-fred-phelps-sr-was-healthy-month-he-entered-hospice (http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-16/wbc-spokesman-said-fred-phelps-sr-was-healthy-month-he-entered-hospice)
The excommunication actually seems pretty cold, too. He and his wife had lived above the church, and they kicked him out.
They are also saying that nobody replaced Phelps, and implied that he wasn't as completely in charge of the church as most people had assumed.
As for who is the leader of Westboro Baptist Church, there is no head of the church, Drain said.
"The church of Jesus Christ doesn't have a head," he said. "The Lord Jesus Christ is our head."
Multiple elders have preached at Westboro Baptist Church for some time, Drain said. Anecdotal reports of people who have observed preaching at the church confirm that.
I do have to say that I'm not looking forward to seeing how people react to his death. There can be no doubt that he was a horrible man, but I refuse to celebrate the death of any human being, and I fear that many people who disagreed with Phelps and Westboro will do so.
By the way, is it just me or is Drain the perfect last name for a member of WBC?
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To steal a line from my own writing in regards to this...
"I grant unto thee... woe."
In short, this is going to be the tipping point where the WBC either becomes so rabid that they get legally bitchslapped hard enough that they never recover, or they fade into irrelevance, even as they scream at the top of their lungs... the 'being ignored by everyone', as mentioned earlier.
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Personally, I hope that no one protests Phelps' funeral. Since he's excommunicated, I suppose that no WBC members will attend his funeral, if a proper funeral service will even be held. Just dig a hole, drop him in, and walk away.
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I hope he retains all his faculties and lives a long, long, long time.
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I think it'd be appropriate to have a bunch of people picket his funeral and if anyone asks why they are doing such awful things to them
"Hey bitch, you reap what you sow"
Gonna have to agree with R. U. Sirius on this one. Picketing funerals not only brings us down to their level, but it would fuel their persecution complex and give them tales to regale new congregants with.
Will it happen? Probably. I just wouldn't recommend it.
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As much as I consider him a stain on the faith, protesting at the funeral would be unwise. Don't feed the trolls.
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The Church isn't even going to have a funeral for him so it's kind of a moot point whether or not it should be picketed.
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I'm pretty glad to hear that they won't be holding a funeral for him, it would have been a total clusterpoop and would have benefitted nobody. That being said I'm mostly proud of the LGBTQ community at large for the maturity they've shown in condemning the idea of picketing Fred's funeral, I think it's pretty clear-cut who was in the right all along.
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The comments section in that blog post does include some posts that say the church essentially teaches that dying at ALL means God hates you, and for this reason they expected Fred to be immortal. They don't provide citations, though, so take that with a grain of sodium-based seasoning.
By that logic, the whole family's hellbound by default! Weirdos.
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On the one hand, I want to create a dance party on his grave where everyone waltzes to Boboflex's "I'm Glad You're Dead." OTOH, if I did that, I'd be no better than his little cult.
I hate having ethics sometimes, I really do. In all seriousness, why give him more attention than he and his cult have already gotten?
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Second post because relevance, that's why:
http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-17/elders-excommunicate-phelps-after-power-struggle-call-kindness-within-church?hesnotgay
From the looks of it, Fred Phelps tried to become a voice of reason. Too little, too late. Shelley Phelps-Roper is also out of power, replaced by a council of elders. Pretty sad when a lunatic like Fred becomes the voice of reason in the whole thing. My theory is that right now they're doing spin control.
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Interesting, I think the excommunication came about because Fred was trying to protect his daughter. She had lost the power struggle between the elders and herself as who would be the dominant person in the church. I assume she went to her dad to try and use his position as founder to get her power back, and they excommunicated him for that.
In a way I do actually feel sorry for him. That church and his family, for all its hatred and bile was his entire life. He has been exiled from his life's work, and effectively betrayed by his own family. After all, the counsel of elders is basically made up of various Phelps clan members. I am surprised he is still alive because that would be pretty soul crushing to anyone.
I wonder though, With Fred and his daughter out of any position of power or control of the church, I wonder if they will start to become more moderate. The church and clan breeds he hatred and clan loyalty through a messed up mix of persecution complex and Stockholm syndrome. If the amount of picketing and such begins to decline, the abuse the clan members receive will too, and in turn will help free them all from the crazy cult they are all part of.
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Wait, these are people so obscenely obsessed with their own doctrines of hate, they threw their own father out of the Hate Church he, himself, formed?
And for not being hateful enough?
This is actually kind of scary.
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Sylvana: I wouldn't hold my breathe, given what they're doing right now. Their actions indicate them going even further down the spiral.
Niam: It is scary. This would be on par with the Joker being thrown out of the Legion of Doom for not being evil enough.
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I would say it's more like throwing Lex Luthor out for trying to create less of a cutthroat environment between the Legion's members, not (if I read the article right) people who were outside the group -he'd still not care or actively celebrate their deaths if it suited his purposes- just their members. Possibly just because that attitude isn't conducive to getting anything done. Also, after skimming that article I'm super disappointed and even more angry, Fred apparently wasn't mellowing out in his old age, he was just trying to give the church's noobs advice they were too spiteful or too ignorant to take.
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With any luck, their rejection of internal harmony within the church will cause it to schism into multiple smaller ones, which will (hopefully) each have too little in the way of members and wealth to pull the stunts that WBC is famous for. Maybe then they'll have to find real jobs, see the real world and learn that other people are, well, people.
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If Fred is on death's doorstep...someone open the door for him.
Ironbite-it's the polite thing to do.
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Y'know, maybe this Drain guy is saying that people who are saying Fred Phelps is near death are misinformed because Phelps has already died.
And...how would Drain know about this unless---
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Second post because relevance, that's why:
http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-17/elders-excommunicate-phelps-after-power-struggle-call-kindness-within-church?hesnotgay
From the looks of it, Fred Phelps tried to become a voice of reason. Too little, too late. Shelley Phelps-Roper is also out of power, replaced by a council of elders. Pretty sad when a lunatic like Fred becomes the voice of reason in the whole thing. My theory is that right now they're doing spin control.
WOW! They even kicked out SHIRLEY! The two main head honchos of the hate cult kicked out! If Fred & Shirley aren't psychotically hateful enough, lord knows what these Elders are!
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Second post because relevance, that's why:
http://cjonline.com/news/2014-03-17/elders-excommunicate-phelps-after-power-struggle-call-kindness-within-church?hesnotgay
From the looks of it, Fred Phelps tried to become a voice of reason. Too little, too late. Shelley Phelps-Roper is also out of power, replaced by a council of elders. Pretty sad when a lunatic like Fred becomes the voice of reason in the whole thing. My theory is that right now they're doing spin control.
WOW! They even kicked out SHIRLEY! The two main head honchos of the hate cult kicked out! If Fred & Shirley aren't psychotically hateful enough, lord knows what these Elders are!
It could only get worse if they used black magic to ressurect hitler.
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They may have given themselves the kiss of death for their cult, if they don't know what they're doing. Right now, what I'm seeing is their attempt at spin control. What if Fred knows something the others don't?
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Wait did they kick Shirley out or just reduce her power? I really find it odd that Shirley was even able to hold her own in a power struggle in that church at all, considering Paul's rather harsh words on the subject of women having an active role in the Church.
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Wait did they kick Shirley out or just reduce her power? I really find it odd that Shirley was even able to hold her own in a power struggle in that church at all, considering Paul's rather harsh words on the subject of women having an active role in the Church.
Frums are never known for their consistency.
"Women are baby machines/maids/sex dolls & should have no power....except when they're U.S. Senators or State Governors or outspoken horse-faced blonde pundits in stilettos & small tight miniskirts or televangelists or Phyllis Schlafly or......"
I guess those guys kicked Fred & Shirley out because they really took Fred's anti-woman stance to heart and figured Fred was not really "elect" since he wanted to make an exception for his daughter.
The fact that Fred started the "church" and taught all they know (despite being 'proven invalid', thus negating everything) never occurred to these guys.....but the whole thing's a weird "Catch 22/Chicken & Egg" thing & frums are hypocrites by nature.
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He's dead.
Ironbite-so we want to put the grandstand over his tombstone or a little bit behind so there's more room for the dancefloor?
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what a shame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DAPXMZk2iw)
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He's dead.
Ironbite-so we want to put the grandstand over his tombstone or a little bit behind so there's more room for the dancefloor?
He's not even worth the effort.
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Rest in...silence. Seriously, I hope this means after the initial hubbub of his passing dies down their excuse for a church fades away to irrelevancy where it belongs.
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He's dead.
Ironbite-so we want to put the grandstand over his tombstone or a little bit behind so there's more room for the dancefloor?
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He's dead.
Ironbite-so we want to put the grandstand over his tombstone or a little bit behind so there's more room for the dancefloor?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciX2meIkXI
Fixed.
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Maybe the church will crawl up into it's own asshole and die.
One can only hope.
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He's dead.
Ironbite-so we want to put the grandstand over his tombstone or a little bit behind so there's more room for the dancefloor?
And it's official. Time for me to create a graphic of how many days he's in Hell.
Just kidding......but since I believe in an afterlife, I'd imagine it wouldn't be all that faboo for Freddy, here.
Not being a maniac, I believe a stay in Inferno is a temporary purgatorial thing for nasty folks. Eternal damnation is the most sicko doctrine ever!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBVpwBlebdM
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Took the old fucker long enough. Yeah, that's all I gotta say on the matter.
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And of course The Onion has something to say (http://www.theonion.com/articles/fred-phelps-man-who-forever-stopped-march-of-gay-r,35582/?utm) on the matter...
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And of course The Onion has something to say (http://www.theonion.com/articles/fred-phelps-man-who-forever-stopped-march-of-gay-r,35582/?utm) on the matter...
(http://media2.giphy.com/media/b9aScKLxdv0Y0/giphy.gif)
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I'm not too big to rejoice. Given the opportunity I would gleefully dance on his grave. Right after I piddled on it. Same for Rush Limbaugh. A wise man once said, "Never let decency or common sense stand in the way of vindictiveness."*
* [Actually, it was me.]
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It's real (http://www.kshb.com/news/state/kansas/family-fred-phelps-sr-founder-of-controvesial-westboro-baptist-church-dies-at-age-84) I dunno, I don't really have many strong feelings on the subject. It's funny because if you'd talked to me about this years ago I'd probably have told you how pleased I was that the guy who was responsible for my departure from Christianity was dead. I thought I'd have some kind of speech prepared for this occasion but I don't.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
Aww beat me to it. The comments are kinda funny.
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Nah, I don't think we should piss on his grave or dance on it.
Instead, find a gay couple and have them get MARRIED over his grave. :D If that won't make him roll over, nothing will.
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I don't take pleasure in anybody's death, as a rule. I don't take pleasure in Phelps' death, to be honest.
But I sure as hell ain't gonna mourn the asshole, either.
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Nah, I don't think we should piss on his grave or dance on it.
Instead, find a gay couple and have them get MARRIED over his grave. :D If that won't make him roll over, nothing will.
Roll over? He'll start spinning so fast it'll reverse the rotation of the Earth.
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With the news links from other posters of this thread, I'm not surprised that the "church" is falling apart. I first got the displeasure of knowing about them when they were protesting at Matthew Shepard's funeral. After enlisting, I learned how they were protesting military funerals to further promote their agenda.
Judging from what excommunicated member Nate Phelps stated from his experience growing up in the "church" and from the interviews of independent reporters, it seemed to me that the WBC was trying to break not only the LBGT community's will, but America's will to resist being controlled by Fred Phelps and the "church".
With Fred gone, I really don't think the church will last long because of the power struggles, the defection of the younger members, and the excommunication of senior leaders that were able to keep the "church" together.
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So the ol' fucker finally croaked, he will certainly not be missed.
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A quote from Mark Twain sums it up nicely: "I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
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A quote from Mark Twain sums it up nicely: "I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
Also "I did not attend the funeral, but I wrote a very nice letter explaining why I approved."
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So... Fred Phelps is dead, about fucking time. I really can't imagine what it must have been like to die with so much hate. I just hope that now that the founder is gone, the Westboro Baptist Church will now start to collapse under it's own weight of in-fighting.
I know it's in poor taste to celebrate the death, even the death of somebody as vile as Fred Phelps. I still couldn't help but sing a little bit of "Ding Dong The Witch is Dead" with "Fred Phelps" replacing "The Witch".
A quote from Mark Twain sums it up nicely: "I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
Well, in that case, I'll certainly be pleased with seeing Phelps' obituary.
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Those Twain quotes are actually spurious but I have to admit, they are clever.
I made this! Waddaya think?
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2i1mt8l.jpg)
Now, I know few of you actually believe in this sort of thing, however, if there's a hereafter, I have a hunch that Fred Phelps is in exactly this situation.
And yes, I used Rob Halford as a denizen of Inferno.
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Whatever helps you sleep better at night...
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I think a more suitable hell for him would be being ignored for all eternity.
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Honestly, what I think would make Fred Phelps sweat would be him explaining to God as how exactly his work was to honor Him and by what teachings of Christ he was following. After all, this isn't some reporter he can shut up because the reporter is showing how un-Christian Fred was being. Fred is having to answer to the Big Man Himself.
Then, like what Beezlebub said, if Fred Phelps is going to be punished, the worst punishment for Phelps would be to be in a place where no one can see or hear him.
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Then, like what Beezlebub said, if Fred Phelps is going to be punished, the worst punishment for Phelps would be to be in a place where no one can see or hear him.
He also needs to be forced to watch his church crumble and equality flourish so he can see the full ruination of his life's work and realize just how badly he wasted his life.
And since we are talking about divine punishment, Jesus needs to pop in for a visit and say to him "you know, you really are a fuckhead."
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I'm not about to celebrate a man's death, but I will say that nothing of value was lost.
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I agree with you guys.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/westboro-baptist-church-lorde-concert-sorry-for-your-loss
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s129/PeaceNikki72/xbv5gz66eyfmusihufey_zps34aae097.jpg)
Westboro Baptist Church members were met with a notable counter-protest at their first protest since the group's founder died: a sign that read "sorry for your loss."
Counter-protesters held up the sign at a Westboro Baptist Church protest of a Lorde concert in Kansas City, the first protest by the group since founder Fred Phelps died. More than 20 Westboro Baptist Church members were protesting the Lorde concert.
"We realized that it wasn't so much about antagonizing them but sending out the countered safe that we are here for people who need that message and need that positivity" Megan Coleman, who helped make the sign, said according to Kansas' KSHB.
The message didn't get across to all Westboro members. "I don't even know what they're saying," Westboro Baptist Chuch member Steve Drain said.
Yeah, how surprised are we that a WBC member is confused by display of compassion and empathy?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/21/fred-phelps-michael-phelps-twitter_n_5005732.html
My favourites:
RIP Frep Phelps. Your Olympic legacy will live on and nobody can take those gold medals from you.
Say what you will about Fred Phelps but 18 gold medals is quite something.
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The message didn't get across to all Westboro members. "I don't even know what they're saying," Westboro Baptist Chuch member Steve Drain said.
That's because you lack a conscious.
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I don't think they're confused. I think they just don't view any compassion or empathy for someone whom they excommunicated from their church.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/21/fred-phelps-michael-phelps-twitter_n_5005732.html
My favourites:
RIP Frep Phelps. Your Olympic legacy will live on and nobody can take those gold medals from you.
Say what you will about Fred Phelps but 18 gold medals is quite something.
There are some seriously stupid people out there.
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The message didn't get across to all Westboro members. "I don't even know what they're saying," Westboro Baptist Chuch member Steve Drain said.
That's because you lack a conscious.
Also his ears are closed and he doesn't consider Fred an "asset" to the church.
Ironbite-4 years tops before it all comes crashing down for this idiot.
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8116205056/h8034D7FD/)
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Can't tell if trolls. Also huge LOL at smoking up once after competing in the Olympics being a "marijuana problem"
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Can't tell if trolls. Also huge LOL at smoking up once after competing in the Olympics being a "marijuana problem"
Reminds me of all those idiots who confused Nelson Mandela with Morgan Freeman.
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Can't tell if trolls. Also huge LOL at smoking up once after competing in the Olympics being a "marijuana problem"
Shit, if I'd just competed in the Olympics, I'd probably need a joint or two just to come down from the freaking stress. AND I DON'T EVEN FUCKING SMOKE.
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I'm fairly certain at least one of those is a joke. The way Nath St Paul worded it seemed like he was taking the piss.
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I kind of wonder if a lot of Twitter/Facebook/etc. posts by super-stupid people are really trolls.
The Web is crawling with folks who possess a special kind of stupid. I found a site that expresses what I'm trying to say perfectly!
http://www.viralnova.com/hilarious-facebook-fails/
I HOPE & PRAY that some of these cases are simply trolls.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/21/fred-phelps-michael-phelps-twitter_n_5005732.html
My favourites:
RIP Frep Phelps. Your Olympic legacy will live on and nobody can take those gold medals from you.
Say what you will about Fred Phelps but 18 gold medals is quite something.
There are some seriously stupid people out there.
I prefer to think they are lucky enough to have never heard of Fred and thus the only Phelps they know of is Michael.
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Conversely, it's the Fark reaction, where you take the name out of context and mis-identify an idiot for the lulz.
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Reminds me of all those idiots who confused Nelson Mandela with Morgan Freeman.
You mean the new Cosmos guy? He kicked ass in the Star Wars prequels.
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Reminds me of all those idiots who confused Nelson Mandela with Morgan Freeman.
You mean the new Cosmos guy? He kicked ass in the Star Wars prequels.
Same thing about Carl Weathers being confused with Joseph Kony (http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-who-think-carl-weathers-is-joseph-kony). Yes, it's a buzzfeed list, but the example responses are hilarious.
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Reminds me of all those idiots who confused Nelson Mandela with Morgan Freeman.
You mean the new Cosmos guy? He kicked ass in the Star Wars prequels.
Same thing about Carl Weathers being confused with Joseph Kony (http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-who-think-carl-weathers-is-joseph-kony). Yes, it's a buzzfeed list, but the example responses are hilarious.
Trolling people on Facebook with that was great.
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Jesus, guys, the Fred/Michael Phelps comments are clearly jokes. No-one would genuinely be that stupid.
Although, in fairness, it is a relatively hacky/overdone joke. That's one of the problems with twitter really, hundreds of people make the same joke without bothering to check if anyone else has. I think I've seen at least 50,000 variations on "more like dead phelps, amirite?" so far.
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After seeing one fundie quote on the main site, has Westboro Baptist Church ever protested a homosexual funeral?
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Given the vast amount of soldiers funerals they've picketed and dividing how many of them might have been gay that died before DADT was repealed odds are yes they have.
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After seeing one fundie quote on the main site, has Westboro Baptist Church ever protested a homosexual funeral?
Yes. Matthew Shepard comes to mind.
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(https://31.media.tumblr.com/9c87ee2340adb9fd2490c3935ab73654/tumblr_inline_n35zbrpaOl1qg497m.png)
“No, I’m not kidding!” Farrell replied, according to the Maricopa Monitor. “This world needs to get back to the biblical standards that our God made for us. This guy was not afraid to preach it, and I respect that.”
The vice mayor told the Facebook friend that he was “just having a hard time with all of this (sic) gay and lesbian rights thing,” and blamed LGBT people for his own homophobia.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/27/arizona-vice-mayor-praises-fred-phelps-on-facebook-with-link-to-satirical-onion-obituary/
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People are struggling for their rights, and you have to hear about it?
Poor you.
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Take the high road? I'm scared of heights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufohGp6y1Cc
Fixed it for you.
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im happy the fucker is dead.