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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #135 on: February 15, 2012, 06:49:32 pm »
Can't remember whether these have been mentioned, but these two gems about atheists annoy me.

"You must be upset/angry about something, and that led you to turn away from God."- while it's true that some atheists probably began to question god after a traumatic experience, it's also not true of many atheists as well. Many atheists either never believed, or came to a conclusion based on the evidence. Also, just because the person became an atheist due to a traumatic experience, doesn't mean they also don't have arguments as to why they are an atheist.

"You're just an atheist so that you can indulge in (usually sexual) sin" this is a stupid argument, if I really believed that a god would send me to hell for masturbation i wouldn't do it.

ie the first one: is somewhat true for me.  It dawned on me that if hell was a real place, it would really suck to go there, especially FOREVER.  Of course once I started quesioning things...

the second one really pisses me off: even if it was true, not wanting to live under the rule of some dictator god who monitors my thoughts does not make me an immoral person.  My mental health is too important to worry about stupid sins.  And is that really the best your god can offer, eternal damnation?  Way to take what could be a harmless belief and terrorize people with it. 

Fuckin' fundies. 

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #136 on: February 16, 2012, 06:16:31 am »
Some of my favorites:
-so you're choosing to go to hell?  Well that's where you come from.
-You're a Buddhist?  Buddah actually existed. Ever heard of a Buddhist terrorist?
-God loves you. Auschwitz proves it.
-I love you.  Isn't being gay a sin?
-I'm sorry you're hungry, homeless, and can't find a job; I'll pray for you.  Great, but what about helping me out with the needful things now?  Perfecto
-Without Jesus, you'll be in your sins.  Sorry, I've found Buddhist ethics to be much more holy than xtian ethics. Also Perfecto
-How could you leave xtianity?  You must not have been saved to begin with.  Fine, that doesn't bother me at all.  (xtians actually say this to ex-xtians, hoping that it gets them angry enough to argue the point with them) How can I leave a fake religion enforced upon us from birth? - very easily!
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2012, 10:31:15 am »
Some of my favorites:
-so you're choosing to go to hell?  Well that's where you come from.
-You're a Buddhist?  Buddah actually existed. Ever heard of a Buddhist terrorist?
-God loves you. Auschwitz proves it.
-I love you.  Isn't being gay a sin?
-I'm sorry you're hungry, homeless, and can't find a job; I'll pray for you.  Great, but what about helping me out with the needful things now?  Perfecto
-Without Jesus, you'll be in your sins.  Sorry, I've found Buddhist ethics to be much more holy than xtian ethics. Also Perfecto
-How could you leave xtianity?  You must not have been saved to begin with.  Fine, that doesn't bother me at all.  (xtians actually say this to ex-xtians, hoping that it gets them angry enough to argue the point with them) How can I leave a fake religion enforced upon us from birth? - very easily!
In truth, Christianity is a fake religion, manufactured to keep a failing Roman Empire together. All the stories in the Bible are fantasies borrowed, then tweaked, from other cultures.

I've read essays indicating that it may be a modified form of Essene Judaism, which was then co-opted by the Empire as you described.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #138 on: February 21, 2012, 09:40:19 pm »
In a similar vein, "Do you know the Lord?"

It's a no-win question unless the answer is "Yes".

It really boggles my mind how arrogant some Christians are, along those lines. Like, I believe in some sort of higher power, and I try to follow Jesus' teachings and shit, but honestly why would an omnipotent being want anything to do with me? No, I don't know God. How can anyone? That's like an ant thinking it has a personal relationship with a sauropod or something. It's just not possible.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2012, 03:38:13 am »
Sorry if this was already mentioned, but "personal Savior" referring to Jesus. Every goddamn Christian I know uses that phrase. What the hell does it even mean? Even as a Christian I had no fucking clue. I was told that means you have a personal relationship with Jesus... but that doesn't even make sense. The hell?
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #140 on: February 26, 2012, 04:56:46 am »
In a similar vein, "Do you know the Lord?"

It's a no-win question unless the answer is "Yes".


Yes, yes I do.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #141 on: February 26, 2012, 12:14:50 pm »
-"You can't disprove God/The Bible/Jesus" The burdon of evidence is on you.  Especially if I'm going to devote my life to it.
-"How can you ignore what the Bible says?" Well, how can you ignore what reality says?
-(to Liberal Christians) "You're creating a god to suit yourself" Yes, the liberals who want to accept everyone and not tell them how to live are creating a god to suit themselves.  Meanwhile, the hellfire preacher who's damning everyone who doesn't agree with what he preaches is worshiping the one true god.  Yeah, he doesn't have any agenda!   ::)
-"Reality of hell" Just because you say something is real doesn't make it any less absurd.  And people who claimed to have gone to hell to sell a book does not constitute proof
-"That's a sin!!" Oh fuck you.


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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2012, 03:33:37 pm »
Sorry if this was already mentioned, but "personal Savior" referring to Jesus. Every goddamn Christian I know uses that phrase. What the hell does it even mean? Even as a Christian I had no fucking clue. I was told that means you have a personal relationship with Jesus... but that doesn't even make sense. The hell?

Yeah, I could never figure out the dynamics of a relationship with a diety you can't see or hear.  No one could ever explain what it means without resorting to annoying Christianese.  There's a site called ExChristian.net in which people post their deconversion testimonies.  They went to church, prayed, asked God/Jesus for answers, but didn't get anything.  Without fail, some Christbot (as I like to call em) will comment that they never knew the real Jesus Christ and that they were in a religion not a relationship.  Yet they NEVER EXPLAIN HOW THIS "RELATIONSHIP" WORKS.  Who is this Jesus guy and how do I find him?  What is the "relationship" like?  How does Jesus communicate to you?   Why does this "relationship" sound more like a cheap marketing gimmick? 

Explain Christians, EXPLAIN!!!


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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #143 on: March 20, 2012, 05:00:30 pm »
Sorry for the necro, but there's an argument I really hate, and it doesn't just apply to religious arguments:

"*insert thing here* is against nature!"

*insert example of thing occurring in nature*

"Humanity needs to hold itself to a higher standard than nature!"

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #144 on: March 20, 2012, 05:21:40 pm »
Sorry for the necro, but there's an argument I really hate, and it doesn't just apply to religious arguments:

"*insert thing here* is against nature!"

*insert example of thing occurring in nature*

"Humanity needs to hold itself to a higher standard than nature!"

Haha, that's nothing~ Last night, I was dealing with a guy who insisted there was no such thing as "natural", because God created everything.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #145 on: March 20, 2012, 05:29:04 pm »
I hate when people say, "You're just mad cause I'm telling the truth!" No, I'm mad because you won't shut up!

.....And when people say "religious" when they mean "Christian". Atheists and Fundies alike are guilty of saying this.


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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2012, 07:28:52 pm »
So I've been working with a group of other students preparing for an English presentation. We all show up to a certain chatroom at the proper time to discuss things last-minute, except for a girl I'll call Zoe. Even though I reminded her at school to come several times, she seems to have "forgot" - in fact, she's "forgotten" every date and time we've scheduled, or she suddenly has "technical difficulties" which she won't elaborate on. One boy went so far as to give her step-by-step instructions for opening up the document, just in case she really was having problems. Anyway, she doesn't show up the night before we present, and everyone else is scrambling last-minute for pictures to put on the ppt. Several people stay up past 10:00 finalizing the ppt.

So I get back to English class and Zoe comes up to me and asks if the ppt's done yet. I say yes, and she starts thanking Jesus. Now normally this doesn't bother me so much, but I was about to tell her that she shouldn't be thanking Jesus, she should be thanking the people who actually put time into the project so that she could get her lazy ass by with an A. Instead I just said, "Yeah, but XYZ worked really hard on it all night." Which is my polite way of saying "Go fuck yourself you lazy bitch." (I don't want to sound like a fucking weeaboo, but there is a Japanese word, tatemae that would fit really well here.) So we all go up there to explain literary techniques and metaphors and the meaning of the poem and shit like that, and Zoe makes no sense at all. Like, it's really obvious that she just skimmed over the poem and never annotated it herself.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #147 on: March 20, 2012, 07:45:54 pm »
I hate when people say, "You're just mad cause I'm telling the truth!" No, I'm mad because you won't shut up!

.....And when people say "religious" when they mean "Christian". Atheists and Fundies alike are guilty of saying this.

In my experience, those who claim "truth" are always the ones who have so little to back it on.  If it was the truth, wouldn't it be able to stand on it's own? 

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #148 on: March 22, 2012, 07:32:27 pm »
I hate it when new agers babble on about "All is One", as if hearing the phrase will actually do something for you. It's a bastardization of the concept of Panentheism *That everything exists inside of god, and yet is also transcendent*. It's not just a fact in Hinduism, it's a mindset. It's the difference between knowing plane mechanics and knowing how to fly the plain.

I could end a long rant by instead saying  that the New Age butchers Hinduism like Paul butchered Christ.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #149 on: March 26, 2012, 03:29:21 am »
I could end a long rant by instead saying  that the New Age butchers Hinduism like Paul butchered Christ.
I'd be interested in that rant.
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