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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2012, 04:18:59 am »
Found a new one: "If Evolution is true, why help the poor?"

The logic of that statement...just kills my brain.

I think they're confusing evolution with natural selection/survival of the fittest. Which is all kinds of wrong.

Even so, they clearly don’t even know what survival of the fittest means. Whoever came up with the term “Social Darwinism” shoulda gotten a smack upside the head, too. With a jackhammer.

If Social Darwinism lived up to its name, it would actually encourage caring for and protecting other members of the community so that the population remains stable and healthy.

It's just its common usage that means Fuck-You-Type Randroidism.

not only that, but they think science has anything to do with morality, that scientists think that because things work a certain way in the natural world that's the way things should work in society.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2012, 04:24:01 am »
Found a new one: "If Evolution is true, why help the poor?"

The logic of that statement...just kills my brain.

I think they're confusing evolution with natural selection/survival of the fittest. Which is all kinds of wrong.

Even so, they clearly don’t even know what survival of the fittest means. Whoever came up with the term “Social Darwinism” shoulda gotten a smack upside the head, too. With a jackhammer.

If Social Darwinism lived up to its name, it would actually encourage caring for and protecting other members of the community so that the population remains stable and healthy.

It's just its common usage that means Fuck-You-Type Randroidism.

not only that, but they think science has anything to do with morality, that scientists think that because things work a certain way in the natural world that's the way things should work in society.

Science doesn't provide "oughts." It provides "is's." What you do with those "is's" is up to you.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2012, 05:33:42 am »
I think it's because their religion tells them both how the world works and about morality and they think science is a religion so they think it must have something to do with morality. Or something.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2012, 03:06:12 pm »
I really hate the "tornado in a junkyard" or the "watchmaker" arguments...they really just make my blood boil.

Or, the whole, "If we let gays marry, then what's to stop people from marrying a child or their dog? Or a tree?"

It's like a blatant dishonest standpoint that they know full well is going over the top. Gah..Rage. lol
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2012, 03:10:17 pm »
I wonder if any of the 'WHY NOT MARRY A TREE, HERPDERP!!' people realize that there are several people in the world who have indeed married inanimate objects (one woman quite famously married the Eiffel Tower)? It's hardly the norm and raises eyebrows wherever it happens, but the point is it HAPPENS.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2012, 03:43:37 pm »
I wonder if any of the 'WHY NOT MARRY A TREE, HERPDERP!!' people realize that there are several people in the world who have indeed married inanimate objects (one woman quite famously married the Eiffel Tower)? It's hardly the norm and raises eyebrows wherever it happens, but the point is it HAPPENS.

Yet, the idea of two consenting adults of the same gender getting married is forbidden. I mean, come on...it's..Icky. Unless it's two women, then it's hot.

Wow...that last part was a bit painful to type, but you definitely encounter these people too. The ones who are so adamant that homosexual marriage is against God and that it would lead to our destruction as a society, yet will comment in loud and crude fashions about how hot it is if they see two girls making out in a bar.

Essentially, men can't marry men because that sex is gross. Women kissing and doing things to each other is hot. It's neanderthal-like thinking. They write one off as disgusting and sexualize the other, and hide it behind God.

Behold. The Republican Frat Boy.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2012, 03:52:45 pm »
I've actually encountered a lot more of those people than probably make up the actual percentage in the homophobe population--'guy on guy is wrong, girl on girl is okay!' I thought it was a parody until I met people who actually thought that. At least across-the-board homophobes are consistent about their hate. They're still hateful assbiscuits, but they're not hypocrites (at least not with regard to that).

'Republican fratboy' is a pretty good descriptive term.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2012, 04:45:48 pm »
I wonder if any of the 'WHY NOT MARRY A TREE, HERPDERP!!' people realize that there are several people in the world who have indeed married inanimate objects (one woman quite famously married the Eiffel Tower)? It's hardly the norm and raises eyebrows wherever it happens, but the point is it HAPPENS.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2012, 05:49:48 pm »
I think the reason people who scream left and right "MEN KISSING IS GROSS!" then turn around and go "Damn two girls going at it is hot" secretly fantasize about being the one to "turn" the two lesbians.  I mean, it is hot to see two fine looking birds mashing their lady parts together but for some people, it's the fact they want to get involved is what is so turning on.  And then again, Woman laying with woman as with man is not forbidden in the bible so it's not hard-coded into these people like man on man sex is.

Ironbite-it's...interesting.

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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2012, 05:54:16 pm »
I think the reason people who scream left and right "MEN KISSING IS GROSS!" then turn around and go "Damn two girls going at it is hot" secretly fantasize about being the one to "turn" the two lesbians.  I mean, it is hot to see two fine looking birds mashing their lady parts together but for some people, it's the fact they want to get involved is what is so turning on.  And then again, Woman laying with woman as with man is not forbidden in the bible so it's not hard-coded into these people like man on man sex is.

Ironbite-it's...interesting.

I knew a guy like this on another forum. He was in the U.S. Army and supported DADT. He said that DADT was to "protect" gay people in the military. That's why they weren't allowed to disclose their sexual orientation - because it was to "protect" them (probably from homophobes like the guy who held that opinion).
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2012, 06:20:59 pm »
I've actually seen some fundies explicitly say that female-on-female sex is perfectly okay* by God, it's male-on-male sex that is explicitly forbidden.

*Okay as in "it pleases men, which is what women are supposed to do"
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2012, 06:26:01 pm »
I've actually seen some fundies explicitly say that female-on-female sex is perfectly okay* by God, it's male-on-male sex that is explicitly forbidden.

*Okay as in "it pleases men, which is what women are supposed to do"

To be fair, Leviticus only said men laying with men was forbidden. It didn't say anything about women lying with women.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2012, 06:29:05 pm »
I've actually seen some fundies explicitly say that female-on-female sex is perfectly okay* by God, it's male-on-male sex that is explicitly forbidden.

*Okay as in "it pleases men, which is what women are supposed to do"

To be fair, Leviticus only said men laying with men was forbidden. It didn't say anything about women lying with women.

Ah, but depending on how you read Leviticus, it might actually allow you to lie with either sex, providing you aren't having anal with women.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2012, 07:47:31 pm »
I've actually seen some fundies explicitly say that female-on-female sex is perfectly okay* by God, it's male-on-male sex that is explicitly forbidden.

*Okay as in "it pleases men, which is what women are supposed to do"

To be fair, Leviticus only said men laying with men was forbidden. It didn't say anything about women lying with women.

Ah, but depending on how you read Leviticus, it might actually allow you to lie with either sex, providing you aren't having anal with women.

But then they'd just say "the sin of Sodom", which is vague because Sodom's sins wasn't about butt fucking. It's funny how they seem to only know  exactly one passage from Leviticus.

I have gotten "Have you ever tried to be straight". Yes I have actually. It only made things worse.
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Re: What are some religious phrases you hate?
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2012, 07:54:28 pm »
I've actually seen some fundies explicitly say that female-on-female sex is perfectly okay* by God, it's male-on-male sex that is explicitly forbidden.

*Okay as in "it pleases men, which is what women are supposed to do"

To be fair, Leviticus only said men laying with men was forbidden. It didn't say anything about women lying with women.

Ah, but depending on how you read Leviticus, it might actually allow you to lie with either sex, providing you aren't having anal with women.

But then they'd just say "the sin of Sodom", which vague because Sodom's sins wasn't about butt fucking. It's funny how they seem to only know  exactly one passage from Leviticus.

I have gotten "Have you ever tried to be straight". Yes I have actually. It only made things worse.

When I told my mom I was bi, the first thing she asked me was, "Are you really bi, or do you just like the female body? Because you can still like the female body without being attracted to it..."

What did she think I meant?

She's actually a very tolerant and liberal person though. So she was mostly like "Okay, wanna watch some TV with me?"
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