Your entire premise you immature dickhead is that because of Muhammed, Islam must be violent. Well fundamentalist jews consider that the pentateuch (or Torah/ I don't use Torah because I don't read hebrew) were the words of Moses himself. They believe intrinsically in Moses and that he was a genocidal maniac who murdered many of his own people and issued an edict to wipe out Amelek.
Well, since name calling is now welcomed in this, let me ask you, dhimmi, why do you always direct the conversation to Christianity or Judaism? Look at my comments on FSTDT. I am more than happy to respond to the stuff by Christian fundamentalists by attacking them and their faith and their Bible without feeling the need to deflect criticism by calling attention to Islam. But if I ever attack Islam...... well, the dhimmis like you should know.
Yeah, Moses was a monster if he existed. Now do tell me all about the thousands of deaths at the hands of Jewish fundamentalists in the modern world.
(nowhere in the Quran does Muhammed say that the jews must be sought and destroyed or that God would not abide any of them)
My second comment on this thread referenced a well known verse from the Quran about how Muslims should treat Jews.
Yet you accept that judaism can be religion of peace. Yet you are so fucking stupid that you don't see the inherent contradiction in your point. When it is pointed out you ignore it.
Judaism is peaceful in the modern world because the Jewish people don't follow their holy books. Yes, I said that. And Islam can be peaceful too, as long as Muslims don't follow their holy book, and don't try to emulate Muhammad. Does me saying this shock you? It does not contradict a single thing that I have ever said.
Nor do I accept for a moment that you have read 'the History of God' because otherwise you would well understand that Islam can be a peaceful religion and was essential for the theology that allowed judaism to become a peaceful religion.
It's been a few years, I'll admit, but your entire rationale seems to be me rolling my eyes at Armstrong gushing at how compassionate and enlightened Islam is. Sad thing is, at the time I believed it. The good news is that if I could change my views, there's hope for anyone.
Actually both Alexander and Julius Caesar had personality cults.
Had. If people in the modern world still bought into that, you'd better believe I'd be concerned.
To call Islam a personality cult is incredibly demeaning. Particularly so when Islam is not devoted to Muhammed but to god. "There is no God but God."
God will tell me, and I will tell you. Such notions make the human prophets indistinguishable from the gods they claim to speak for. That is true regardless of what the man's name is.
Whereas Christianity could easily be a personality cult of Jesus if anyone actually cared to emulate him (apart from the odd lunatic and St Francis of Assisi).
I have no objection to this, and never have.
Alexander actually believed that he was divine and Julius Caesar played up that he was descended from Venus, whether he really believed it or not.
See what I said about them above.
As for the Modern World - we would call Caesar a genocidal maniac (he killed one million people in europe), let alone what you would call the British invading India and Africa, Napoleon, the conquistiadors in America, the American settlers and their treatment of the Natives, the doctrine of Terra nullius in Australia.
Yes.
It's patently facile to compare the modern world with the past.
Literally every history person I've spoken to, on both sides of the political spectrum, acknowledges that Andrew Jackson was, simply put, a monster. But if there were people who wanted to promote him today as the ideal man, and continue his "policies", I would oppose that. If people want to promote the values of the past, those values will be compared with those of the modern world.
Apart from which stop selectively quoting part of what I said and eliding the rest. It is both annoying and question dodging.
I didn't quote the first paragraph of your comment. 
In all seriousness, would you like future responses to just include one big quote? Or even just start a new comment since repeated quoting can be an eyesore?
Finally I doubt any sought of reasoned debate will alter your anti-islamic feeling which is suspiciously similar to other anti-religious feelings, which all decry the religion of choice as being incapable of peace or honesty.
If you're bringing up the Antisemites, the people who are fearful of a minority religion that holds almost no political power outside of a single tiny country with a body count of almost nothing within the past few centuries, do tell me where the similarities are.
But please continue to be scared about something that doesn't exist in the way that you fear it and continue grouping 1 billion people around the world with small groups of extremists.
Tens of thousands of people rallied in Chechnya against Charlie Hebdo in response to the infamous shooting. That was just one protest, and there were others. These extremist groups don't include every single person who identifies as Muslim, but they most certainly are not small.
You are a sad pathetic and frightened man with the heart of a shriveled pea.
The fact that you insult me by using the term Dhimmi would be pathetic if it wasn't so hilarious. You also don't seem to understand your own argument, which if you recall (before you started ducking and weaving like Floyd Mayweather on a bad acid trip) was that Islam was inherently violent and due to its scripture could not be peaceful. When the absurdity of this was pointed out you got on your tractor and shifted the goalposts. You now say that they can't be peaceful unless they disbelieve the Quran. Yet you accept that fundamentalist jews who believe in a far more genocidal Moses (who have compared the Arabs to Amelek) can be peaceful. So your entire premise is frankly flatulent.
However I find it hilarious that you would call me a Dhimmi. The fact that you even think that's an insult means that you believe in some united global islamic Ummah. But there is no Islamic Catholic church. They are as riven and divided as the 100s of protestant christian churches. It also means you believe in an imminent islamic takeover of Australia (where I live) - or perhaps more likely the USA or UK (depending on where you fester) which is fucking hilarious, in a chicken little sharia law is coming type of way.
Nothing you say shocks me. Mostly because you're an idiot.
There are 1000s of Americans who continue to promote living like and abiding by (there mostly imagined) ideals of the founding fathers.
I still don't believe you have read Karen Armstrong, nor do I believe you have read the Quran. Karen Armstrong the former Catholic Nun whose book you consider was good other than her 'gushing' about Islam. Yet you have now been re-converted to what? The fear of the Muslim under the bed. You cabbage kneed hamster abuser.
As for your well known quote from the Quran. It's not in the Quran you deluded self abuser. Part of the reason I mentioned the Hadith was because that is where that quote comes from. The Hadith are the sayings of the prophet. Your quote comes from one of those Hadith. Unsurprisingly people tended to make them up to suit their own purposes. Nor are they held by (any of the many Islamic schools of thought) to be on the same level as the Quran because, even if the saying is reliable - and there always must be doubt - it was by definition not part of the 'recitation' of the Quran and was therefore not (on any view) the inspired word of God. The fact that you are unaware of this distinction tells me that apart from being a condescending sucker of syphilitic dog cock, that you don't know very much about this topic, are dishonest, and are probably parroting shit you read on the internet.
I was bringing up Anti-Semites (which includes arabs and hence Islam) but also anti-papism, anti-protestantism and anything else you care to name. Whenever the person is categorised as the 'other' there are a series of myths raised about them which because humans are human are surprisingly similar. They cannot be peaceful. They abduct our children. They are sexually perverted. I'm surprised you didn't say that Muslims drink the blood of infidels. It is stupid and you are stupid.
Thousands of people cheered on the death of Osama bin Laden. No one in the US batted an eyelid about cruise missiles destroying a sudanese pharmaceutical factory while they were under sanction condemning 1000s or more people to death through lack of medicine. But you know what most of that is irrelevant to your main point anyway. You know your incredibly facile and stupid main point.
This is one of the few times that you did respond to most of what I said, rather than simply taking snippets. But you are too much or an ignorant an undereducated dickhead to acknowledge that. You know very well I wasn't complaining about you breaking up the post. It is too hard to argue honestly I guess.
Finally the reasons I use Christianity and Judaism as a the counterpoint is that they worship exactly the same God as Islam and are part of the same heritage. They are remarkably similar and yet only one is so inherently broken in your view that it cannot be lived with. Also to be honest (something you are unfamiliar with) I know much more about the abrahamic faiths than I do about Hinduism, Zorastrianism, Bahai, animism, sikhism or bhuddism.
Anyway to conclude. You are wrong. You are a deficient human being. You are scared of something that doesn't exist. Here's hoping your bile is limited to pointless arguing and sniping on the internet and that you never have more control over anything than a carpark toll booth.
