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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #120 on: November 29, 2016, 05:09:01 pm »
It gets better.  He legally can't lease the building if President.

Unless Congress consents, and I'm not sure if a motion to consent can be filibustered in the Senate.

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Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!

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« Reply #121 on: November 29, 2016, 07:23:19 pm »
Like I said earlier, Trump's no more in favor of free speech than the PC crowd. And considering this comment, I think he's against it even more than them. Outright calling for the government to punish expression? That's setting off alarm bells for me.

But on the other hand, at least it's easier to deal with government censorship. So I'm kind of torn about who's worse.
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« Reply #122 on: November 29, 2016, 10:59:51 pm »
Meanwhile, Deutsche Bank did a study on wealth inequality in the US over the last 100 years. The results were... disturbing.

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The top 0.1% of households in the US (top 0.1%, not top 5% or top 1%, top 0.1%) currently have almost as much wealth as the bottom 90%. The last time that happened was in the run-up to the Great Depression.

When did the gap grow in favour of the bottom 90%? When the New Deal was in effect, the "Golden Age of Economic Expansion". Strict banking regulations, strong unions, high top marginal tax rates, high corporate tax rates...

When did it begin to decline? When Reaganomics fully kicked in, followed by the policies of Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama.

The US is heading for a crash that will make 2008 look like a love tap.
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« Reply #123 on: November 30, 2016, 01:21:35 am »
So basically a full on depression is incoming, with how pro business Trump is. History always seems to repeat itself.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #124 on: November 30, 2016, 01:25:55 am »
So basically a full on depression is incoming, with how pro business Trump is. History always seems to repeat itself.

The question is whether the Democratic Party can find an(other) FDR-esque candidate to sweep Trump out of office in 2020.

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https://www.texastribune.org/2016/11/28/texas-republican-elector-resigns-over-trump/

Art Sisneros, a Texas elector, has resigned rather than vote for Trump or be a faithless elector.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2016, 04:39:16 am »
...But the person chosen to replace Sisneros has to vote for Trump anyway am I right? So this doesn't really change anything, it's just one more person protesting against Trump.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2016, 04:58:47 am »
...But the person chosen to replace Sisneros has to vote for Trump anyway am I right? So this doesn't really change anything, it's just one more person protesting against Trump.

Nope, nothing in Texas law obligates electors to vote for any particular person.

Sisneros resigned because he felt he could not in good conscience vote for Trump or vote for someone else after having pledged to the Texas Republican Party to vote for Trump (or maybe the eventual nominee, I'm not sure exactly when Texas parties choose their electors). The only choice he felt was left to him was to resign.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2016, 08:36:10 am »
I think there's only two or three states that punish faithless votes with a null vote, the rest usually just go with fines, but ultimately don't change the vote after its been cast.

While this has yet to sway a Presidential election, there is historical precedent for entire states turning against their assigned vote; Virginia did so in 1836 (I believe) against their pledged party's VP candidate.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #128 on: December 01, 2016, 04:42:48 pm »
In other news this stuff is deliciously amazing

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2016, 02:52:42 pm »
Today I learned Trump won a Razzie... for playing himself.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #130 on: December 03, 2016, 01:50:49 am »
http://qz.com/852180/trump-and-china-donald-trump-calls-taiwans-president-a-massive-diplomatic-reversal-that-will-enrage-china/?utm_source=qzfb

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TL;DR Ever since Nixon no one in USA has been allowed to act as if Taiwan exists because China says so and US relations with China have been deemed more important than the independence of one random nation. Trump instead called the Taiwanese pro-independence president to congratulate her (and possibly to promote his businesses in Taiwan) thus ruining decades of diplomatic work with between two world powers.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #131 on: December 03, 2016, 02:24:12 am »
How strange. For all my loathing for him, I must say I admire the sheer gall of that move.
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« Reply #132 on: December 03, 2016, 02:29:49 am »
How strange. For all my loathing for him, I must say I admire the sheer gall of that move.

I think it had nothing to do with gall and everything to do with stupidity, like when he also recently called Pakistanis "tremendous" in a phone conversation with the President of Pakistan. This, of course, prompted a reply from India, which is probably a rather more important ally than Pakistan.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #133 on: December 03, 2016, 02:31:06 am »
I highly doubt he did it out of gall. More likely he did it out of a combination of stupidity, greed, ignorance and a lack of caring. Until it is proven otherwise, I will continue to say that Trump neither knows nor cares about how to do the job of the President.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #134 on: December 03, 2016, 03:04:44 am »
Trumps business wants to build a new resort in Taiwan. Totally unrelated I'm sure!