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Offline Bender_Rodríguez

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2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« on: October 18, 2012, 01:57:06 pm »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/doma-defense-of-marriage-act_n_1980197.html

Well there's one more hurdle out of the way.  Maybe I will be able to see my gay friends get married in my lifetime after all.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 02:14:39 pm »
Faith in humanity restored, or the courts in this case.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 05:34:18 pm »
One more hurdle to go.

Ironbite-and involves a Supreme Court.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 08:15:19 pm »
Quote from: ironbite on October 18, 2012, 05:34:18 pm
One more hurdle to go.

Ironbite-and involves a Supreme Court.

Which is what worries me. And that's assuming the USSC takes the case.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 08:48:07 pm »
Quote from: erictheblue on October 18, 2012, 08:15:19 pm
Quote from: ironbite on October 18, 2012, 05:34:18 pm
One more hurdle to go.

Ironbite-and involves a Supreme Court.

Which is what worries me. And that's assuming the USSC takes the case.

I think they will, and I can see Roberts and Kennedy siding with the liberal wing. 
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 08:55:14 pm »
Quote from: m52nickerson on October 18, 2012, 08:48:07 pm
Quote from: erictheblue on October 18, 2012, 08:15:19 pm
And that's assuming the USSC takes the case.

I think they will,

I agree. This is a major issue in the US and there is a lot of dispute in the courts. I think the Court will take it, just to resolve everything.

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and I can see Roberts and Kennedy siding with the liberal wing.

Kennedy I agree with. Why do you think Roberts will? (Not saying you are wrong, just wondering.)
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 09:11:16 pm »
Quote from: erictheblue on October 18, 2012, 08:55:14 pm
Kennedy I agree with. Why do you think Roberts will? (Not saying you are wrong, just wondering.)

I think as conservative as Roberts is he understands and worries about how the court will be perceived in the future.  I also think he is smart enough to understand that the recognition of same sex marriage is inevitable and will not want his court to be seen as a road block that was passed at some point.

That does not mean I think Roberts will vote strike down DOMA in a way that makes gay marriage legal everywhere.  I would think he will strike down the law in a way that simply forces the federal government to accept the states definition of marriage.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 09:31:23 pm »
Quote from: m52nickerson on October 18, 2012, 09:11:16 pm

That does not mean I think Roberts will vote strike down DOMA in a way that makes gay marriage legal everywhere.  I would think he will strike down the law in a way that simply forces the federal government to accept the states definition of marriage.
Punt it like he did ACA? That's...probable.

The trick will be getting other states to recognize the marriages. That's what I would like to see the mechanics of.
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Re: 2nd US circuit court declares DOMA unconstitutional
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 10:36:38 pm »
Seeing as wishing harm on another human being is against my morality and nature, let me just say that I hope Scalia... retires... before this gets to SCOTUS.

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