Battlestar Galatica has better-looking starfighters. Bite me, fanboy!!
I always wanted to see these stormtroopers.
Large image, therefore spoilered.
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Look at that! They look like some form of riot police with those shields and they have lightsabers hung on their belts. Can you imagine how the movies would have if Lucas went with this?
Awesome theater, awesome theater full of fans, who cheered and reacted to the scenes.
One thing I noticed in the theater we were in:
When Rey called on the Force and beat Kylo Ren to a pulp, I remember sitting there thinking it wasn't very realistic, since she doesn't seem to have any training. But when she knocked Kylo on his ***, the entire theater erupted. They didn't care if it was realistic or not. They had just seen Kylo kill Han Solo, and now, nearly everyone watching wanted the boy's head. It was a great moment watching and hearing everyone's reaction. That was a memorable moment for me.
Rest in Peace, Han Solo. As far as I'm concerned, you always shot first. :'(
Saw it last night...
Rest in Peace, Han Solo. As far as I'm concerned, you always shot first. :'(
That may end up being part of why Leia left him... ;)
But seriously, that's the spoiler I saw online most often, and I have a special place prepared for the people who did it:
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Awesome theater, awesome theater full of fans, who cheered and reacted to the scenes.
One thing I noticed in the theater we were in:
When Rey called on the Force and beat Kylo Ren to a pulp, I remember sitting there thinking it wasn't very realistic, since she doesn't seem to have any training. But when she knocked Kylo on his ***, the entire theater erupted. They didn't care if it was realistic or not. They had just seen Kylo kill Han Solo, and now, nearly everyone watching wanted the boy's head. It was a great moment watching and hearing everyone's reaction. That was a memorable moment for me.
Dont forget Chewie shot Ben SoloKylo Ren in the side. He certainly wasnt at full power at that point, thanks to that badass Wookie.
Did anyone spot Daniel Craig?
In the theater now for it.
Okay, out and sitting down again. Good movie, couldn't help but notice the distinct lack of severed limbs that would have been present is Lucas would have been involved.
I was constantly expecting Kylo Ren to lose an arm to Rey in the fight and am so disappointed it didn't happen. I mean, the movie was chock-full of homages to the original trilogy, why not add one more?
Film was pretty dope, even if most of the story cues were lifted straight from Episode IV. Seriously, the First Order just built a massive death star, that can wipe out several planets at once, feasts on suns for fuel and you wipe it out in the first film in the trilogy? what, are they gonna have enough funds left over to build another one? That's a lotta credits.
Also, Kylo Ren's goofy lightsaber is growing on me.
Too many plot holes and coincidences for my tastes, but this is ultimately a kids flick just like the rest of them are, and I think it worked very well on that level.
Personally I'm disappointed that Chewie didn't totally loose his shit, jump down, beat to death/pull apart the storm troopers in his way, and go tear-assing after Kylo with a random body part.
...It's not a remake when they continue the story.
I suppose you could make the argument that since Disney decided to cut off all of the EU from canon they are doing a remake of the stuff that happened after the films but in my mind a remake happens when you start the same story from scratch. ...Like all those Batman and Spiderman remakes.
It's not a literal remake, but it's certainly one in spirit. It's not a coincidence that Rey lives in a desert planet and there's a planet-busting superweapon blown up by hitting its weak point for massive damage and her mentor is killed by an evil dude in black armor. It's not chance that resulted in another cantina scene. Kylo Ren as a character is almost the movie hanging a lampshade on it; he wants to be Darth Vader come again the same way The Force Awakes wants to be A New Hope.
Because it is quite fitting. He really is much like Vader was at that age, as we can see from the prequel trilogy, so it is quite accurate. Besides, Kylo is trying to emulate his grandfather and go to the dark side for similar reasons. Vader was afraid of losing his loved ones and wanted power. Kylo is afraid he will fail to fulfill the expectations that have been put on him and wants power. There are differences between them but I actually like Kylo as a flawed villain.
i can't gauge kylo's age. he looks 17. if he's an adolescent, then his angst is justified. i think it's too early to call.
Note that Kylo never killed people while raging. When someone failed Vader he choked them to death. Kylo smashes furniture and electronics. Even that one time when he turned on his saber and the officer was certain he was going to die Kylo just tore up his room.
He did kill innocent people and ordered the deaths of many more but despite all his angst he is still more reasonable boss than Vader.
when he offed his own father, a major character in SW
Also I think his killing of Han just made he even more unstable and it's setting up for a redemption arc of some sorts at the end of it all
Well the people I've gotten into fights with don't want to acknowledge that he's still a whiny emo brat.
Also I think his killing of Han just made he even more unstable and it's setting up for a redemption arc of some sorts at the end of it all
Is it wrong of me to hope there is no redemption arc and it ends with Chewie ripping his arms off and tossing him out an airlock while jedi girl shows the big bad that bringing lightning to a lightsabre duel is actually a very bad idea. Bonus points if the only black man in the universe discovers his home planet and race are the Star Wars equivalent to Rivendell and the elves thus explaining both the scarcity and inherent badassness of black characters.
Well the people I've gotten into fights with don't want to acknowledge that he's still a whiny emo brat.
Also I think his killing of Han just made he even more unstable and it's setting up for a redemption arc of some sorts at the end of it all
Is it wrong of me to hope there is no redemption arc and it ends with Chewie ripping his arms off and tossing him out an airlock while jedi girl shows the big bad that bringing lightning to a lightsabre duel is actually a very bad idea. Bonus points if the only black man in the universe discovers his home planet and race are the Star Wars equivalent to Rivendell and the elves thus explaining both the scarcity and inherent badassness of black characters.
I mean, you can hope, but it seems extremely unlikely.
The no redemption arc thing, no opinion on black people being elves.
The most interesting person from this film is Kylo Ren. Where did he come from? Why did he turn to the dark side? How could someone with force training lose to a n00b? What makes him tick? Everyone wants to find out more about this character's backstory. My theory, he is not Han and Leia's son: he is, in fact, J.P. from Grandma's Boy. They have the same physical appearance, the same fondness for black clothes, the same temper tantrums, and I could see J.P. becoming a sith lord after his robot operations. It's all there. The prophecies have foretold it.
It has been foretold by the elders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iqBLpUjHwU)
It makes sense that Kylo Ren, despite the way he's obviously peacocking to make himself look cooler and be more intimidating, isn't as impressive as the Sith Lord he's desperately trying to emulate. He was raised by both his parents, is incredibly gifted with the Force and likely knew so from a young age and never really experienced any tragedy or grew up in an oppressive environment, so even when convinced to turn to the Dark Side, he doesn't have much darkness in him beyond petulant whining and temper tantrums. He lets Hux boss him around, insult him to his face and tattle on him to Snoke. Even his lightsaber and Force abilities seem to be used more for intimidation than fighting an equally armed opponent. Given the scene of Rey lampshading his Vader fanboyism while being Mind Probed by him, it's highly likely this was the Intentional Audience Reaction. To wit, Bad Robot knew they couldn't really top Vader as The Heavy so they deliberately set out to create a villain who was trying to be The Heavy and failing miserably, and everybody in the film knew it.
Kylo Ren is actually a lot more like Darth Vader than even he knows. You just need to remember what Darth Vader was like at his age.
Kylo Ren is actually a lot more like Darth Vader than even he knows. You just need to remember what Darth Vader was like at his age.
Kylo Ren is older than Anakin was when he became Vader, if I'm checking the timeline right.
Kylo Ren is actually a lot more like Darth Vader than even he knows. You just need to remember what Darth Vader was like at his age.
Kylo Ren is older than Anakin was when he became Vader, if I'm checking the timeline right.
Wookiepedia (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kylo_Ren) says he was probably born a year or so after the battle of Endor; if true, the guy's pushing thirty in Episode 7. By the time grandpa was thirty, it was eight years after Revenge of the Sith, and was pretty much the stone-cold badass Darth Vader we saw in the original trilogy.
It really is interesting the direction they went with Kylo Ren. He's got the whiny gene his grandfather and uncle Luke had, and obviously has an unhealthy amount of "villain worship" of him, but he's got the formula completely ass backwards compared to Anakin:
Anakin Skywalker did evil things to gain power; he wanted power to save the people he loved.
Ben Solo kills the people he loves to become more evil; he sees becoming more evil as the key to more power.