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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 06:56:04 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 07:22:10 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 07:23:04 pm »
Uh........

Ironbite-you...I need a moment.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 07:36:35 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?
If you don't want to sound like an apologist, I would advise you against making the sort of arguments that apologists would make.
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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 07:38:57 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?
If you don't want to sound like an apologist, I would advise you against making the sort of arguments that apologists would make.
I was just asking a simple question!  Stop jumping down my throat.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2014, 07:52:09 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?
If you don't want to sound like an apologist, I would advise you against making the sort of arguments that apologists would make.
I was just asking a simple question!  Stop jumping down my throat.

There is no way where that question in that context could ever be "simple."

It would be like asking if the Jews consented to being put in concentration camps.
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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2014, 07:53:29 pm »
the birth control shots were non consentual

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2014, 07:54:03 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?
If you don't want to sound like an apologist, I would advise you against making the sort of arguments that apologists would make.
I was just asking a simple question!  Stop jumping down my throat.

There is no way where that question in that context could ever be "simple."

It would be like asking if the Jews consented to being put in concentration camps.


Anyway, there's a difference.  People do consent to being sterilized.  Have you never heard of a vasectomy

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the birth control shots were non consentual
Okay, then that was an atrocity.  And those responsible ought to be punished.
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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2014, 07:56:51 pm »
It was government sanctioned so no laws were broken

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2014, 07:57:35 pm »
It was government sanctioned so no laws were broken
Nevertheless, there should be prosecutions.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2014, 07:58:32 pm »
yes thats good but again ask eva for clarification
and last time i checked hamas doesn't sterilize
(Israel has sterilized Eithiopian refugee women
Was it done against their will?
If you don't want to sound like an apologist, I would advise you against making the sort of arguments that apologists would make.
I was just asking a simple question!  Stop jumping down my throat.

There is no way where that question in that context could ever be "simple."

It would be like asking if the Jews consented to being put in concentration camps.
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Anyway, there's a difference.  People do consent to being sterilized.  Have you never heard of a vasectomy?

Yeah, and I'm sure the immigrant women all thought it would be a perfect idea to get sterilizations en masse.

Might want to start paying attention.  That was pretty damn clear right from the initial post.

It was government sanctioned so no laws were broken
Nevertheless, there should be prosecutions.

By who?
Mockery of ideas you don't comprehend or understand is the surest mark of unintelligence.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2014, 08:00:52 pm »
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Yeah, and I'm sure the immigrant women all thought it would be a perfect idea to get sterilizations en masse.

Might want to start paying attention.  That was pretty damn clear right from the initial post.
No, it wasn't.  I'm sorry if I misinterpreted it, but kef was being kinda vague.

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By who?
I don't know, maybe an international court as part of a greater tribunal.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2014, 08:03:53 pm »
And who would enforce the punitive measures? I mean, the reason ANY country gets away with atrocities is because there is no way to hold them accountable if they're not willing to change.

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2014, 08:04:53 pm »
I was not vague
Also the Hague only really applies to member states and Israel isn't part of it
That and Israel is not an export economy and the only states that are angry about this are African so sanctions won't work

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Re: Al-Jazeera Host Asks "Why Can't Arab Armies Be More Humane, Like Israel?"
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2014, 08:15:15 pm »
I was not vague
Okay, reading over your post again, I can see you weren't.  Sorry, I'm kinda drunk right now.