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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2014, 02:09:47 pm »
Conservatives proved with Perot that they would be willing to split the vote and screw their party if that's what it took to make the Republicans more ideologically pure.

Pretty much exactly what I've been saying progressives need to do. If they voted en masse outside the Democratic party and made them lose a few high-profile elections, the Democrats would come crawling to their platform.

En masse where?  I can't think of a single party that I would actually give enough of a damn to vote for instead of the democratic party.  The ones that seem best are quite pretentious.

Either way, I will say this: The pendulum may have swung in the Republicans' favor way too early.  They've just bought enough rope to hang themselves, and this may cost them in the 2016 election.

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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2014, 03:06:03 pm »
Conservatives proved with Perot that they would be willing to split the vote and screw their party if that's what it took to make the Republicans more ideologically pure.

Pretty much exactly what I've been saying progressives need to do. If they voted en masse outside the Democratic party and made them lose a few high-profile elections, the Democrats would come crawling to their platform.

En masse where?  I can't think of a single party that I would actually give enough of a damn to vote for instead of the democratic party.  The ones that seem best are quite pretentious.

Either way, I will say this: The pendulum may have swung in the Republicans' favor way too early.  They've just bought enough rope to hang themselves, and this may cost them in the 2016 election.

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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2014, 04:12:20 pm »
So, how long until the Republicans try to repeal Obamacare and Obama vetoes it?

I give it 5 hours. With a side bet that by the first of February, they'll have tried to repeal minimum wage laws.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2014, 04:28:36 pm »
So, how long until the Republicans try to repeal Obamacare and Obama vetoes it?

I give it 5 hours. With a side bet that by the first of February, they'll have tried to repeal minimum wage laws.

Congress can only do that with the federal minimum wage laws. The state minimum wage laws are decided by state governments.

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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2014, 04:34:46 pm »
Well, yes, that's what I meant. Obviously the federal congress won't get rid of state minimum wage laws.

That's what state congresses are for.
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« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2014, 04:36:43 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2014, 04:38:16 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)

Yeah, most likely, all that'll happen is more gridlock and more anger in Congress.  Maybe somebody will get beaten with a cane again.

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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2014, 04:45:09 pm »
It's hard to remain optimistic when I read Townhall.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #83 on: November 05, 2014, 05:07:03 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)


Actually, yeah, that's a fair point.

You know how Republicans have been stonewalling Democratic attempts at progress (and sometimes regress)?

Guess who is also capable of doing that right now.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2014, 05:27:45 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)


Actually, yeah, that's a fair point.

You know how Republicans have been stonewalling Democratic attempts at progress (and sometimes regress)?

Guess who is also capable of doing that right now.

On the one hand, the cynical side of me says that'll never fucking happen because they're spineless.

The optimist in me is giggling in anticipation of the GOP getting a taste of their own medicine.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2014, 05:30:35 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)


Actually, yeah, that's a fair point.

You know how Republicans have been stonewalling Democratic attempts at progress (and sometimes regress)?

Guess who is also capable of doing that right now.

On the one hand, the cynical side of me says that'll never fucking happen because they're spineless.

The optimist in me is giggling in anticipation of the GOP getting a taste of their own medicine.

Democrats love their stonewalling tactics almost as much as the Republicans do.  It's basically a political pastime.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2014, 05:34:30 pm »
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2014, 06:14:22 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)

Yeah, most likely, all that'll happen is more gridlock and more anger in Congress.  Maybe somebody will get beaten with a cane again.

There is actually pretty good research showing that it is easier to govern when congress is controlled by one party than when it is split, even when the president is of a different party. Basically, since 2008 the Republicans have done nothing but throw spitballs from the back of the class. Now they will be expected to actually govern if they hope to be taken seriously in 2016. They are going to be forced to come to the negotiating table, I'm sure with a great deal of kicking and screaming from the Tea Party.
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2014, 06:18:54 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)


Actually, yeah, that's a fair point.

You know how Republicans have been stonewalling Democratic attempts at progress (and sometimes regress)?

Guess who is also capable of doing that right now.

That's a possibility. It's perhaps even the most likely outcome.

But I just can't shake the idea of Obama "compromising" with the Republicans and signing their attempts to, say, cut Social Security and steamroll through the Keystone XL pipeline. He agrees with 98% of everything the GOP wants anyway; he just wants the excuse of "the Republicans made me do it."
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Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2014, 06:25:26 pm »
Stay calm, all.  Here is your assignment.  Come back to me one year from today and tell me what's different about society and the economy.  (Hint: nothing.)


Actually, yeah, that's a fair point.

You know how Republicans have been stonewalling Democratic attempts at progress (and sometimes regress)?

Guess who is also capable of doing that right now.

That's a possibility. It's perhaps even the most likely outcome.

But I just can't shake the idea of Obama "compromising" with the Republicans and signing their attempts to, say, cut Social Security and steamroll through the Keystone XL pipeline. He agrees with 98% of everything the GOP wants anyway; he just wants the excuse of "the Republicans made me do it."

The funny thing is that, even if he does this, they'll still label him a radical commie liberal hippie nazi facist.
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