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Title: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 05, 2012, 10:30:40 am
With all the fuss about comprehensive vs. abstinence-only sex ed, I'm interested in seeing what people from a variety of backgrounds think should and should not be taught in schools.  Any suggestions on polling sites to use, and how to increase exposure so that people who AREN'T "liberal deviants" get a chance to see it?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Miles11 on January 05, 2012, 05:28:58 pm
I'm not sure about polling sites, but as far as the comprehensive vs. abstinence only issue, I'm in favour of comprehensive sex education.

Abstinence only will end up just repressing these kids, which will make them hornier and, by extension, completely ruin the point of their teachings.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 05, 2012, 05:33:57 pm
Teach proper birth control.  Make birth control available in the school building itself.  Mention abstinence as an option, but don't spend more than three sentences on it.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 05, 2012, 05:45:53 pm
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: maanantai on January 05, 2012, 05:54:04 pm
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: ironbite on January 05, 2012, 06:06:46 pm
Comprehensive sex education with the appropriate materials is always good.  Also provide birth control to students who request it.

Ironbite-if they're gonna have sex, they should be safe.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 05, 2012, 07:14:51 pm
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.

Well, there are also some topics listed under elementary, some under middle, some under high school, and some under all three.

For example, a parent may feel that elementary-school kids should never be taught about the mechanics of reproduction, but that middle- or high-school students are ready.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: maanantai on January 05, 2012, 07:26:20 pm
Oh, I have a loooooong list of topics and the like, along with whether you think each topic should be mandatory, opt-out-able, or not discussed in schools at all.

In my opinion, no topic should fall under category "not to be discussed in schools at all", every discussion should, however, be held at their approriate forum to do so if they are brought up by teachers.  Meaning that no math teacher should use their time evangelizing and telling about the evils of premarital sex and so on.

Well, there are also some topics listed under elementary, some under middle, some under high school, and some under all three.

For example, a parent may feel that elementary-school kids should never be taught about the mechanics of reproduction, but that middle- or high-school students are ready.

Well, the sooner they start telling the facts, the less there are misconseptions to be corrected later on. And I say this as a person who saw animated movie on babymaking (from removal of the clothes and going through the "make love" vocabulary, different positions (!) and conseption to the giving birth and breastfeeding part) on fifth grade as a part of our normal biology lessons, which that year were revolving around reproduction of animals, including humans and starting puberty.

If I one day find myself responsible of kids, I'd like them to have at least the same things told to them at school as I had. And the sooner the better! (As I was really embarrassed to talk to my mom about those things before I had some base knowledge of my own on the subject).
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Her3tiK on January 05, 2012, 08:54:23 pm
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 05, 2012, 10:15:27 pm
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.

Thing is, in abstinence-only states, you get NONE OF THAT.  Not even the parts about what periods are and where babies come from.  I only know because it was in my biology textbook, and I was the kind of hopeless nerd who has to know everything in the book, even if it's not covered in class.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 05, 2012, 10:20:18 pm
If I ever have to deal with abstinence-only/anti-gay/slut-shaming crap in a high school health class, I am going to take full advantage of the opportunity and troll the fuck out of the teacher.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 05, 2012, 10:27:00 pm
If I ever have to deal with abstinence-only/anti-gay/slut-shaming crap in a high school health class, I am going to take full advantage of the opportunity and troll the fuck out of the teacher.

If that happens, I hope you have audio/video.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: D Laurier on January 06, 2012, 04:45:17 pm
Educate children.
Make them aware of what sex is, and what it involves.
Inform them of the possible risks, as well as the benefits, of being sexualy active.
Let them know they have the right to refuse sex.
Make sure they fully understand that they have the right to refuse to have sex if they dont want to.
Make sure they can exercise their right to refuse to have sex.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Her3tiK on January 06, 2012, 05:56:26 pm
Clearly, we need to have kindergartners watching porn or we've let down our liberal overlords.

Seriously though, it shouldn't hurt to teach k-5 graders about relationships. At least to the extent that it's what two people do when they care about each other, and that it can be guy/girl, guy/guy, or girl/girl and there's nothing wrong with that. Basically teach that there's nothing wrong with consensual relationships of any configuration. Middle schools can explain how our bodies work in regards to reproduction, which is how I think it works already (correct me if I'm wrong). High school can deal with sexual health, including birth control & their correct use, STDs, and any other topics I'm not thinking of at the moment.

Thing is, in abstinence-only states, you get NONE OF THAT.  Not even the parts about what periods are and where babies come from.  I only know because it was in my biology textbook, and I was the kind of hopeless nerd who has to know everything in the book, even if it's not covered in class.
I know. I'm saying that, when this country finally gets over itself, we implement something along these lines to education kids about sexuality and sexual health. Otherwise, I have to admit that I was surprised when my school announced it was doing a sex ed class.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Old Viking on January 06, 2012, 06:17:03 pm
Kids should learn about sex where I did. In the gutter.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: ironbite on January 06, 2012, 06:46:12 pm
After setting fire to the town right?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 06, 2012, 08:44:10 pm
Um...ok, back to the original topic.  Where should i post such a poll so it will get maximum exposure?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 06, 2012, 10:30:58 pm
Um...ok, back to the original topic.  Where should i post such a poll so it will get maximum exposure?
The bathroom of the local bus station.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 06, 2012, 10:33:35 pm
I'd suggest youtube, although they don't have polls and that rarely works if you're not popular.

Really, I think actually asking people would be the best option, because you'd be getting the opinions of people who don't go on any particular site , and you'd know how many people chose not to respond. Although that would take a lot of time and effort on your part.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 07, 2012, 01:52:27 pm
I'd suggest youtube, although they don't have polls and that rarely works if you're not popular.

Really, I think actually asking people would be the best option, because you'd be getting the opinions of people who don't go on any particular site , and you'd know how many people chose not to respond. Although that would take a lot of time and effort on your part.

That's the problem.  I'm not exactly getting sponsored for this. :(
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 07, 2012, 09:17:09 pm
I'd suggest youtube, although they don't have polls and that rarely works if you're not popular.

Really, I think actually asking people would be the best option, because you'd be getting the opinions of people who don't go on any particular site , and you'd know how many people chose not to respond. Although that would take a lot of time and effort on your part.

That's the problem.  I'm not exactly getting sponsored for this. :(

Well, maybe you can influence someone in the position to do so. I think that this topic is important since it will likely affect what is taught in schools, although I do think we should educate people who make the wrong decisions (ex. Abstinence works. Abstinence-only education doesn't.)
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 07, 2012, 10:06:13 pm
If walking up to people on the street makes you nervous, you could leave the surveys out in a public place next to a box for them to put the completed surveys in. Then you can come later and take the box home.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 07, 2012, 10:53:05 pm
The problem is you wouldn't know how many people had "no opinion"
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Auri-El on January 07, 2012, 10:55:14 pm
Another problem with that is possible vandalism: people stealing the surveys, throwing them in the nearest bin, etc.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Lithp on January 08, 2012, 12:03:00 am
I'm skeptical of having any kind of sex ed for K-3. I'm pretty sure they don't really "get" the concept of romantic relationships, so saying that "guy/guy is good & so is guy/girl" seems kind of pointless to me. I think late elementary, early middle school is definitely a good time. And that teaching the consequences should come before, or coinciding with, teaching you how to do it. And not only make contraceptives available, make sure they know it's available.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 12:05:19 am
Romance is not the same as sex. The kids can learn what chromosomes, DNA, and hormones are, just like they learn about the sun and rain.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 08, 2012, 12:14:30 am
I'm skeptical of having any kind of sex ed for K-3. I'm pretty sure they don't really "get" the concept of romantic relationships, so saying that "guy/guy is good & so is guy/girl" seems kind of pointless to me. I think late elementary, early middle school is definitely a good time. And that teaching the consequences should come before, or coinciding with, teaching you how to do it. And not only make contraceptives available, make sure they know it's available.
Sex ed for K-3 is mostly going to be that there are boys and there are girls and they are different. And considering they mostly have two parents,they have at least some idea of  what a relationship is, even if it is much simpler.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Lithp on January 08, 2012, 12:23:19 am
So, this is a survey in your home town, or something?
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Firstly, take the semantics up with the person who mentioned it on the last page. Secondly, it might be best put in the form of an example:

My sister thinks it's just the funniest thing in the world to hear her son, my nephew, say "Suzie* is my girlfriend." Listening to him, I don't think he really understands what a girlfriend is. I think he just understands it as a close friend who is a girl, but you can only have one of them.

So, if you ask me, it is pointless to expect the school to sit here & try to teach him about "relationships of different configurations," because I don't think he'll really follow their logic until he's a few years older.

*=Fake name. The name is not important.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 12:34:24 am
Well even thougn none of us has any foolproof method of getting the results, we might as well put our suggestions for the poll.

I think we should divide the categories into k-3, 4-6, 7-9 and 10-12. Then we would ask about psychological aspects of sex (relationships), the science of sex (pregnancy, STIs, meiosis), ways of having sex (Condom use, buttsecks, abstinence) and what part of each would be appropriate for each grade level.

Then we should ask them what and when they learned about sex in school, what religion they are, how many kids they have, and age.

L should criticize us and show us her original plan, if she sees fit.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 08, 2012, 12:43:28 am
So we don't go around saying stupid shit all uninformed like, I found guidelines (http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf) for sexual education in school. This is what would be taught in early elementary school:

Reproductive and Sexual Anatomy
and Physiology

• Each body part has a correct name and a specific function.
• A person’s genitals, reproductive organs, and genes determine whether the person is male or female.
• A boy/man has nipples, a penis, a scrotum, and testicles.
• A girl/woman has breasts, nipples, a vulva, a clitoris, a vagina, a uterus, and ovaries.
• Some sexual or reproductive organs, such as penises and vulvas, are external or on the outside of
the body while others, such as ovaries and testicles, are internal or inside the body.
• Both boys and girls have body parts that feel good when touched.

Puberty
• Bodies change as children grow older.
• Puberty is a time of physical and emotional change that happens as children become teenagers.
• People are able to have children only after they have reached puberty.

Reproduction
• Men and women have reproductive organs that enable them to have a child.
• Men and women have specific cells in their bodies (sperm cells and egg cells) that enable them to
reproduce.
• Reproduction requires that a sperm and egg join.
• Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm
and egg to join.
• When a woman is pregnant, the fetus grows inside her body in her uterus.
• A woman can be pregnant with more than one fetus at a time.
• Babies usually come out of a woman’s body through an opening called a vagina.
• Some babies are born by an operation called a Caesarian Section.
• A woman’s breasts can provide milk for a baby.
• Not all men and women have children.
• People who cannot have children may choose to adopt.

Body Image
• Individual bodies are different sizes, shapes, and colors.
• All bodies are equally special, including those that are disabled.
• Differences make us unique.
• Good health habits, such as eating well and exercising, can improve the way a person feels about
his or her body.
• Each person can be proud of his/her body.

Sexual Orientation
• Human beings can love people of the same gender and people of another gender.
• Some people are heterosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone
of another gender.
• Some people are homosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone
of the same gender.
• Homosexual men and women are also known as gay men and lesbians.
• People deserve respect regardless of who they are attracted to.
• Making fun of people by calling them gay (e.g. “homo,” “fag,” “queer”) is disrespectful and hurtful.

Gender Identity
• Biological sex refers to whether a person has male or female genitals and/or chromosomes.
• Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female, or a combination of these.
• Gender identity is just one part of who a person is.
• Gender roles refer to the way society expects people to behave based on their biological sex.
• Making fun of people for not acting the way society expects them to based on their biological sex
is disrespectful and hurtful.

Talking about teaching young kids things other than this list is going off into fantasy land, so please don't do that.

ETA: Missed some under Reproduction
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Lithp on January 08, 2012, 12:51:06 am
Thing is, I was giving my opinion on how to teach sex ed, along similar lines to various other posters.

For K-3, I think those guidelines mostly make sense. But is there really an anatomical difference between male boobies & female ones?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 08, 2012, 12:53:47 am
Thing is, I was giving my opinion on how to teach sex ed, along similar lines to various other posters.

For K-3, I think those guidelines mostly make sense. But is there really an anatomical difference between male boobies & female ones?
The tissues are mostly the same, but female boobs have more fat deposits in them. They also have greater mammary gland development. There's also protrusion of the nipples, as can be seen in the Tanner scale. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_scale#Breasts_.28female.29)
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 01:02:08 am
Do you think we should go over gestation?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 08, 2012, 01:03:04 am
Do you think we should go over gestation?

Yes. It's basic biology. Not just in humans, either.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 08, 2012, 01:07:21 am
Do you think we should go over gestation?
Sorry about that, I missed copying some of the guidelines under reproduction and it's already in there.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: anti-nonsense on January 08, 2012, 01:22:36 am
what about bisexuals?
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 01:24:20 am
While we're at it, I think we should also talk about Chromosome disorders, especially Turner's and Klinefelter's if we're talking about gender as well.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Lithp on January 08, 2012, 01:33:51 am
DAMN IT, PEOPLE, SAVE SOME STUFF FOR FIFTH GRADE!

SHIFT KEY, FUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 08, 2012, 01:43:50 am
DAMN IT, PEOPLE, SAVE SOME STUFF FOR FIFTH GRADE!

SHIFT KEY, FUCK YEAH!

Eh, my fifth grade sex ed basically consisted of the female anatomy and puberty, with no mention of male physiology, and two seconds on where the penis goes when you're having sex.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 01:49:10 am
DAMN IT, PEOPLE, SAVE SOME STUFF FOR FIFTH GRADE!

SHIFT KEY, FUCK YEAH!

CAPS LOCKS IS EASIER!

But I don't think a k-3rd grader can't comprehend what vene listed, although it is probably not possible to teach the kids all this within those years when they are still struggling with arithmetic and spelling.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: ironbite on January 08, 2012, 01:57:28 am
DAMN IT, PEOPLE, SAVE SOME STUFF FOR FIFTH GRADE!

SHIFT KEY, FUCK YEAH!

Eh, my fifth grade sex ed basically consisted of the female anatomy and puberty, with no mention of male physiology, and two seconds on where the penis goes when you're having sex.

Didn't even have that if I recall.

Ironbite-I miss memory.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Lithp on January 08, 2012, 02:55:03 am
I didn't have anything until 6th grade. And then not very much after that.

Eh, it was enough for me.

SHIFT KEY IS SUPERIOR!
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 08, 2012, 02:56:36 am
I didn't have anything until 6th grade. And then not very much after that.

Eh, it was enough for me.

SHIFT KEY IS SUPERIOR!

Kids find out on the playground and the internet anyway.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 08, 2012, 02:59:28 am
I didn't have sex ed until 9th grade. I was supposed to start in 8th, but I was in Catholic school then. We had some basic internal anatomy and diseases in 6th grade.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 08, 2012, 03:01:56 am
I got sex ed from my parents when I was like... 8.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Cataclysm on January 08, 2012, 03:03:48 am
When I was 8 my mom went to the library and checked out books about sex and let me read them.

OKAY YOU WIN.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Servo on January 08, 2012, 03:08:50 am
Grade 5 (11-years-old) was when I first had "health education" (didn't just cover sex but also puberty, growing up etc.), with little lessons through out the rest of primary and high school, culminating to the point that we watched a video of a live underwater birth.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: anti-nonsense on January 08, 2012, 09:23:58 am
I was in grade 5 or 6 when we had a basic talk about puberty and some other stuff, I don't remember much about that, my parents got me a picture book when I was 6 or 7 that explained the basics of sex and babies, and a book that went into detail about periods and sex and stuff when I was 11.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: Vene on January 08, 2012, 11:19:53 am
While we're at it, I think we should also talk about Chromosome disorders, especially Turner's and Klinefelter's if we're talking about gender as well.
How about we wait until they know what a chromosome is first. But I do remember being taught about those in high school biology.
I didn't have anything until 6th grade. And then not very much after that.

Eh, it was enough for me.

SHIFT KEY IS SUPERIOR!
You don't have sex anyway, you won't admit your love of Harley, you are phobic of blowjobs, and you think your penis shoots lightning. You are a terrible example.
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TheL on January 08, 2012, 12:13:35 pm
OK, I think I need to give the survey, as I have written it thus far, in its entirety.  Bear in mind that this is intended to do the following:

1. Get a feel for what the average person expects sex ed to teach.
2. Get feedback from teens on how much they actually want to know.
3. See how much age and religion tend to affect point 1.
4. Show that nobody actually wants to teach 5-year-olds "this is how you have gay sex."

This is not about the guidelines as they exist.  This is about what the person interviewed believes should and should not be among those guidelines.

Quote
The following are potential topics in sex education at various levels.  Indicate whether you feel each one should be:

Mandatory: All students in all schools MUST learn this topic. Parents and religious authorities are expected to teach students whether any particular act is moral or immoral; students are encouraged to ask them about this topic.
Optional--always available: Information on this topic MUST be available; however, students can opt-out of learning about this topic (or be opted-out by their parents) without any further pressure to learn it.
Optional--sometimes available: Individual schools decide whether to make information about this topic available.  No student is pressured to learn about this topic.
Not covered: Schools are not allowed to mention this topic in any way.  Students can ONLY learn about these topics from parents, religious authorities, or library/Internet research on their own.

Remember, this is about what you believe schools should provide information about, not about your moral stance on an issue, or about whether your local public schools do or do not provide this information.


A. Elementary School Level:

1. Babies are born from inside their mothers' bodies.
2. Babies are put into the mommy's body by a process called "mating" or "sex" which usually involves a man and a woman.  No further information about sex or what it entails is given.
3. If an adult tells you to take off your clothes in front of them, this is a bad thing and should be reported to a trusted adult right away.
4. If an adult tries to touch your private parts, this is a bad thing and should be reported to a trusted adult right away.
5. The biological mechanics of reproduction.
6. Different people are unique; you look just fine the way you are.
7. Some people have two mommies or two daddies.
8. Differences in primary sex characteristics (e.g. boys generally have a penis, girls generally have a vagina).
9. Difference in secondary sex characteristics (e.g. beards, breasts and the like).

B. Middle School Level:

1. Your body is undergoing changes as a result of puberty.  Here is a list of what these changes are, so that you know that what is happening to you is normal.
2. Different bodies are unique; the shape of your breasts and/or genitals is probably just fine the way it is.
3. The biological mechanics of reproduction.
4. What rape is, so that you can avoid committing rape.
5. What rape is, so that you can avoid being raped.
6. Human prenatal development.
7. How to have a healthy romantic relationship.
8. Pornography is a form of acting; real sex is not like pornography.

C. High School Level:

1. The biological mechanics of reproduction.
2. Types and failure rates of various birth-control methods, and what these failure rates mean.
3. How to use various birth-control methods.
4. How to access various contraceptives.
5. How to access abortion services.
6. Types of sexual intercourse, both same-sex and heterosexual.
7. What rape is, so that you can avoid committing rape.
8. What rape is, so that you can avoid being raped.
9. Sexual orientation and related issues. (e.g. same-sex marriage, adoption by gay couples)
10. Gender identity and related issues. (e.g. cross-dressing vs. transsexuality, intersex people, "genderqueer" people)
11. Abortion and related issues.
12. STDs and their transmission (this topic does not include methods of prevention).
13. Preventing the transmission of STDs.
14. Human prenatal development.
15. How to have a healthy romantic relationship.
16. Pornography is a form of acting; real sex is not like pornography.



Lastly, your current age:
- 10-13
- 14-17
- 18-25
- 26-35
- 36-45
- 46-55
- 56 or older

And your religious leanings:
- Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox/Greek Orthodox
- Evangelical Christian
- Charistmatic Christian (e.g. Pentecostal, Church of God)
- Unitarian Universalist
- Other Christian
- Orthodox Jewish
- Reform Jewish
- Muslim
- Buddhist
- Hindu
- Traditional Native American tribal
- Reconstructionist Pagan (e.g., Hellenismos, Heathenism)
- Neopagan (e.g. Wicca, Druidry)
- Atheist
- Agnostic
- Other

What kind of sex education did you have at school?
- Abstinence-only
- Comprehensive
- Other/not sure
- Sex wasn't even mentioned

Did/do your parents talk to you about sex during your teens?
- Yes, sex and dating relationships have been discussed
- Yes, sex has been discussed, but not relationship dynamics
- No, only dating relationships were discussed
- Sex and dating were not discussed in my home at all
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 12, 2012, 08:58:32 pm
Add me to the list of the folks whose parents taught them the basics of sex: where babies come from, how they get there, etc.  I think, in the ideal society, it should be the parents who do sex education...they (should) know their kids, they know what they respond best to.  However, since we don't live anywhere near an ideal society, its up to the schools to provide comprehensive sex education including relationships, sex, reproduction, contraception, protection, (in the later grades) abortion, STDs, and yes, abstinence.

I think I'll quote Joycelyn Elders (Surgeon General under Clinton, was fired for basically saying we should tell kids that its okay to masturbate) here: "I'm against abstinence programs because I really consider "abstinence only" child abuse."
Title: Re: Possible sexuality poll?
Post by: TenfoldMaquette on January 13, 2012, 03:54:01 pm
I think kids should get a comprehensive, factual education on sex. My own education was slip-shod at best; I didn't know I had a vagina until I started bleeding out of it around age eleven, after which my mom shoved a poorly illustrated book on female anatomy into my hands and took me lingerie shopping. So, yeah, if we can have kids avoid that kind of mess, I'm all for it.