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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2805 on: January 25, 2019, 03:12:19 pm »
Stone.  That's about it.  Stone getting arrested and all that entails.

Ironbite-perfect timing from Mueller.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2806 on: January 25, 2019, 05:52:40 pm »
Quote from: Id82 on January 25, 2019, 03:07:28 pm
So what do you think made him cave? His tanking approval ratings? The Airports shutting down or flights getting delayed? The fact that more Republicans voted for the Democrats proposal in the Senate yesterday than Democrats voting for the Republican proposal?

The prospect of losing the Senate in 2020... which I don't think really should be a concern, look at the 2013 Ted "I don't want people to have health care" Cruz shutdown and the 2014 election.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2807 on: January 25, 2019, 05:59:46 pm »
I think it was because his party was starting to cave. Trumps approval ratings are tanking and they didn't want to be dragged with him. Six Republicans voted for the Democratic proposal on Thursday where only one Democrat voted for the Republican one. (Manchin of course) The thing is no one is going to remember this shut down in a few months. I don't think Trump will try to shut it down again and will probably try and call a national emergency next.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2808 on: January 25, 2019, 09:09:33 pm »
Oh and speaking of that 2013 shutdown...

Dammit I never thought I'd find anything Michael Bennet said laudable.

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Madam President. (The Senator from Colorado.) Madam President, I seldom, uh, as you know, um, rise on this floor to contradict somebody on the other side. I've worked very hard over the years to work in a bipartisan way, with the presiding officer, with my Republican colleagues, but these crocodile tears that the Senator from Texas is crying for first respondesr are too hard for me to take.

They're too hard for me to take, because when you sh--when the Senator from Texas shut this government down in 2013, my state was flooded. IT WAS UNDERWATER! PEOPLE WERE KILLED! People's houses were destroyed! Their small businesses were ruined, forever! And because of the Senator from Texas, this government was shut down, for politics. Then he surfed to a second-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, but were of no help - pause- to the first responders, to the teachers, to the students whose schools were closed, when the federal government, that was shut down, because of the junior Senator from Texas.

(fact-check: Sen. Cruz won the 2016 Iowa Republican caucuses)

From what I've read, Sen. Bennet would be quite justified in being angry over a federal government shutdown--federal spending is the single biggest driver of Colorado's economy. (Marijuana sales being second, which is why Sen. Gardner has been urging caution in the enforcement of federal marijuana laws against states that have repealed their criminal restrictions on marijuana.)

(Also, for clarity: it's the second part I find laudable. The first part is a pipe dream now: the elected Republicans are almost always too insane to work with, with rare exceptions such as Sens. Paul and Lee, and Rep. Amash, on certain matters of foreign policy.)

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLvHy8L10Tw

Mark Levin: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Marxist commie socialist!"
Also Mark Levin: "Please come on my show AOC."
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2809 on: January 26, 2019, 06:55:55 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaW6OarhKwA

New numbers out. About Trump vs Any leading democratic candidate. People are getting to comfy so Kyle is here to let us know to pace ourselves.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2810 on: January 26, 2019, 07:35:48 pm »
I totally expect Trump to win reelection.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2811 on: January 26, 2019, 08:03:08 pm »
I totally expect Pence to lose reelection.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2812 on: January 26, 2019, 08:22:54 pm »
I wonder if the Senate would even have to hold a trial if the House voted to impeach. I don't see anything requiring it. (In fact, they once did decline to hold a trial, on the very first impeachment, but that's because it was of a Senator, William Blount, whom they'd already effectively expelled, and they said they didn't have the jurisdiction to try an impeachment of another Senator.)

Remember that the other two times Presidents have been impeached, both Houses of Congress were controlled by hostile parties.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2813 on: January 26, 2019, 08:53:46 pm »
Oh he isn't going to be impeached, he'll resign first.

Ironbite-speed run of Nixon after all.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2814 on: January 26, 2019, 08:59:18 pm »
Quote from: ironbite on January 26, 2019, 08:53:46 pm
Oh he isn't going to be impeached, he'll resign first.

Ironbite-speed run of Nixon after all.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2815 on: January 26, 2019, 09:32:43 pm »
Quote from: ironbite on January 26, 2019, 08:53:46 pm
Oh he isn't going to be impeached, he'll resign first.

Ironbite-speed run of Nixon after all.

He'll only resign if he thinks that will stop the attacks on his businesses. But now there's state-level investigations going on, which won't stop even if he steps down as President. He won't resign, and if the House impeaches I could absolutely see the Senate Republicans simply declining to hold a trial.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2816 on: January 27, 2019, 12:53:18 am »
Yeah the only way Trump is leaving office is if he's voted out in 2020, or he does both of his terms until the dems take the Senate and they can properly impeach him.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2817 on: January 27, 2019, 01:01:25 am »
Trump is going to blow a gasket if he loses reelection.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2818 on: January 27, 2019, 01:28:38 am »
Quote from: Id82 on January 27, 2019, 12:53:18 am
Yeah the only way Trump is leaving office is if he's voted out in 2020, or he does both of his terms until the dems take the Senate and they can properly impeach him.

The chances of them getting the 67 they need to convict is basically nil at this point. We're not going to see a return to the Senate of the 1930s when the Democrats had 70+.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2819 on: January 27, 2019, 04:58:13 am »
Quote from: Chaos Undivided on January 27, 2019, 01:01:25 am
Trump is going to blow a gasket if he loses reelection.

I can see the tantrums on twitter already.
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