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Offline Vypernight

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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2014, 02:47:38 pm »
The really sad part is the parents use their health insurance to pay for all of this.  So Republicans are against the ACA covering birth control and abortions, but they're okay with it covering child abuse?
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2014, 03:01:28 pm »
Ain't child abuse if you're doing it in the name of Jesus.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2014, 07:34:39 pm »
Quote from: Vypernight on August 04, 2014, 02:47:38 pm
The really sad part is the parents use their health insurance to pay for all of this.  So Republicans are against the ACA covering birth control and abortions, but they're okay with it covering child abuse?

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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2014, 08:41:45 pm »
Ironic how Social Darwinist the Republicans, the so-called steadfast Christians, are.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2014, 01:04:22 am »
Pro life, unless the life is gay, poor, Latino, black, disabled, Arabic, Muslim, female, or not a rich upperclass white male.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2014, 02:38:04 am »
Such a thing should really not be legal. Parents should have no right to put their kids through torment like this. It's just as bad as real kidnapping.
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2014, 02:50:15 pm »
My wife just bought the DVD of Jesus Camp.  I think it was mentioned on these boards before, but since the child abuse is similar, I thought I'd talk about it again.  i'm so glad that camp is shut down.  That crap is not Christianity.  It's a god-damn cult!
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2014, 02:53:06 pm »
Quote from: Vypernight on August 13, 2014, 02:50:15 pm
My wife just bought the DVD of Jesus Camp.  I think it was mentioned on these boards before, but since the child abuse is similar, I thought I'd talk about it again.  i'm so glad that camp is shut down.  That crap is not Christianity.  It's a god-damn cult!

[Insert inevitable mumble about all religions being a cult here]
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2014, 06:47:25 pm »
Quote from: Vypernight on August 13, 2014, 02:50:15 pm
My wife just bought the DVD of Jesus Camp.  I think it was mentioned on these boards before, but since the child abuse is similar, I thought I'd talk about it again.  i'm so glad that camp is shut down.  That crap is not Christianity.  It's a god-damn cult!

I'll never forget that movie and how completely stunned I was that such a thing existed (I saw it back in high school). Kids crying because they're being called filthy sinners who will go to hell if they don't love god and repent. Kids being told to worship a cardboard cutout of Bush. Kids being forced to try to convert people. It's disgusting.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2014, 07:07:54 pm »
The good news is the camp closed not long after, most likely because of the video itself.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 07:53:28 pm »
It always struck me as odd that people who supposedly follow "the truth" need to so severely indoctrinate children to maintain it.

If I may quote H.P. Lovecraft: "If religion were true, parents would not try to bludgeon their children into artificial conformity, but would instead encourage them to seek out truth in rational ways."
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 08:17:41 pm »
Quote from: Vypernight on August 13, 2014, 02:50:15 pm
My wife just bought the DVD of Jesus Camp.  I think it was mentioned on these boards before, but since the child abuse is similar, I thought I'd talk about it again.  i'm so glad that camp is shut down.  That crap is not Christianity.  It's a god-damn cult!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2014, 05:09:18 pm »
You can turn nearly anything into no true scotsman fallacy.

It doesn't really mean anything.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2014, 08:00:43 pm »
Quote from: niam2023 on August 15, 2014, 05:09:18 pm
You can turn nearly anything into no true scotsman fallacy.

It doesn't really mean anything.
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything. If you actually knew what you're talking about, you'd realise that "That crap is not Christianity." is a textbook No True Scotsman.
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Re: Kidnapped for Christ
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2014, 08:09:02 pm »
I am not denying that the religion should really examine its more reactionary portions, I am just wondering why denouncing this sect as a cult would be some form of fallacy.
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