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SCarpelan:
According to the same logic anyone who is not Chilean shouldn't talk about capitalism since they experienced a brutal dictatorial regime with neo-liberal economic policies.
Ultimate Paragon:
--- Quote from: SCarpelan on June 14, 2015, 07:25:13 pm ---According to the same logic anyone who is not Chilean shouldn't talk about capitalism since they experienced a brutal dictatorial regime with neo-liberal economic policies.
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Oh, I'm no fan of unfettered capitalism either. When taken to the extreme, both capitalism and socialism are very, very bad. But the way I understand it, communism is inherently extreme, due to its goals. And even worse, it's basically impossible in the real world above the city-state level.
mellenORL:
Representative democracy doesn't work very well beyond the city-state level either, tbh.
SCarpelan:
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on June 16, 2015, 08:15:38 am ---
--- Quote from: SCarpelan on June 14, 2015, 07:25:13 pm ---According to the same logic anyone who is not Chilean shouldn't talk about capitalism since they experienced a brutal dictatorial regime with neo-liberal economic policies.
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Oh, I'm no fan of unfettered capitalism either. When taken to the extreme, both capitalism and socialism are very, very bad. But the way I understand it, communism is inherently extreme, due to its goals. And even worse, it's basically impossible in the real world above the city-state level.
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What's extreme are the means that some communists have used to gain power and means by which they have tried to reach their vision of Communism. Those who have tried to change the system from within and have gained power peacefully have usually been overthrown by an US-supported revolution.
Anarchistic strands of Communism are the ones that aren't viable in the large scale. The ones that are interested only in transforming the economic system and try to do it through the current political systems are more realistic.
Ultimate Paragon:
--- Quote from: SCarpelan on June 16, 2015, 11:03:04 am ---
--- Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on June 16, 2015, 08:15:38 am ---
--- Quote from: SCarpelan on June 14, 2015, 07:25:13 pm ---According to the same logic anyone who is not Chilean shouldn't talk about capitalism since they experienced a brutal dictatorial regime with neo-liberal economic policies.
--- End quote ---
Oh, I'm no fan of unfettered capitalism either. When taken to the extreme, both capitalism and socialism are very, very bad. But the way I understand it, communism is inherently extreme, due to its goals. And even worse, it's basically impossible in the real world above the city-state level.
--- End quote ---
What's extreme are the means that some communists have used to gain power and means by which they have tried to reach their vision of Communism. Those who have tried to change the system from within and have gained power peacefully have usually been overthrown by an US-supported revolution.
Anarchistic strands of Communism are the ones that aren't viable in the large scale. The ones that are interested only in transforming the economic system and try to do it through the current political systems are more realistic.
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>Communism
>Realistic
Given human nature, a working communist system is simply impossible.
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