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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: CaseAgainstFaith on March 22, 2012, 02:05:27 pm
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Richard O’Dwyer, the UK-based ex-administrator of the video linking website TVShack will be extradited to the US to face copyright infringement charges. Despite public outrage Home Secretary Theresa May approved the extradition order today. The 23-year-old student has never visited United States, but now faces several years in a US prison.
Last year Richard O’Dwyer was arrested by police for operating TVShack, a website that carried links to copyrighted TV-shows.
Following his detention in the UK’s largest prison, the site owner fought a looming extradition to the US, but without success.
After a UK judge gave the green light to extradite the student two months ago, Home Secretary Theresa May officially approved the request from US authorities today.
https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/ (https://torrentfreak.com/pirating-uk-student-to-be-extradited-to-the-us-120313/)
Wow. That is pretty harsh considering he didn't even have any stuff in his possession or stuff on a hard drive, just links to other websites. I don't think this looks good on either the UK or the US imo. By the way isn't it crazy that America can push its' laws onto other countries, I thought the UK was sovereign nation or am I mistaken now?
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To be fair, we're talking about a UK government that's essentially given up things like "appealing to the voters (http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/4940)" and "keeping the media onside (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gallery/2012/mar/22/budget-2012-newspaper-front-pages)".
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We have a stupidly unbalanced extradition treaty with the US.
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As if our prisions aren't full enough, lets start bringing in people from other countries.
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I am no longer worried about being invaded.
I am now worried about being the invader.
Seriously, though, why the fuck can't America keeps its greasy tentacles out of other countries?
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The US has stupid extradition treaties with various countries. Basically, they refuse to let any of their own citizens be extradited, but get extremely pissy if any country refuses to deport one of its own citizens.
It's a nightmare for British citizens because it's very difficult to get out of it, and US sentences are often draconian compared with those in the UK.
In 2002 an Autistic British man was caught hacking into the US military and NASA servers, bringing down a Washington office and a US Naval base for 24 hours. He was looking for evidence of alien encounters. He has been fighting extradition ever since and, if convicted, faces 70 YEARS in prison. Bearing in mind the longest hacking sentence handed down in the UK is 2 years and only 23 people have ever received whole life sentences for anything in modern times.
He's facing the same sentence as particularly heinous serial killers like the Wests or the Moors Murderers did in the UK
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Rape: "Meh, let's put him in in jail for a couple years."
Hacking: "HOLY SHIT LOCK HIM UP FOR LIFE"
Getting your priorities in order, courtesy of the US legal system.
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Rape: "Meh, let's put him in in jail for a couple years."
Hacking: "HOLY SHIT LOCK HIM UP FOR LIFE"
Pirating: "YOU INHUMAN MONSTER, YOU'RE LUCKY YOU DON'T GET THE CHAIR, STOP OPPRESSING THE RICH CORPORATIONS! YOU ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH EVERYTHING! YOU'RE WORSE THAN HITLER!
Getting your priorities in order, courtesy of the US legal system.
Added something for you.
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They can't extradite Roman Polanski for child rape, but they can extradite a man for copyright infringement?
I know we're talking two different countries here, but still.
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In 2002 an Autistic British man was caught hacking into the US military and NASA servers, bringing down a Washington office and a US Naval base for 24 hours.
WHAT A FUCKING BOSS. They should have extradited him to give him a medal. For extreme winning against mental illness.
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/ahem
There's plenty of high-functioning autistic people out there. They're not all Chrischan.
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As if our prisions aren't full enough, lets start bringing in people from other countries.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg/300px-US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg.png)
IT'S A SUSTAINABLE TREND DAMNIT.
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As if our prisions aren't full enough, lets start bringing in people from other countries.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg/300px-US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg.png)
IT'S A SUSTAINABLE TREND DAMNIT.
Weren't all the prisons privatized in the late 70s? Hmm.
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As if our prisions aren't full enough, lets start bringing in people from other countries.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg/300px-US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg.png)
IT'S A SUSTAINABLE TREND DAMNIT.
Weren't all the prisons privatized in the late 70s? Hmm.
No. Only about 10% of prisons are privatized. Still a big problem, though. http://www.correctionsproject.com/corrections/pris_priv.htm (http://www.correctionsproject.com/corrections/pris_priv.htm)
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Rape: "Meh, let's put him in in jail for a couple years."
Hacking: "HOLY SHIT LOCK HIM UP FOR LIFE"
Pirating: "YOU INHUMAN MONSTER, YOU'RE LUCKY YOU DON'T GET THE CHAIR, STOP OPPRESSING THE RICH CORPORATIONS! YOU ARE WHAT'S WRONG WITH EVERYTHING! YOU'RE WORSE THAN HITLER!
Getting your priorities in order, courtesy of the US legal system.
Added something for you.
Murder someone in cold blood and you can be out in a couple years if the judge is particularly lenient that day. But if you cost a company to draw less than their calculated maximum profit, they'll go for blood, and you MIGHT get out before you die of old age. Because corporations are people with all the privileges and none of the restrictions, and money is far more important than human life. After all, prisons are such a profitable business themselves.
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I'm really fed up with my government sticking their noses into other countries' business.
On April 15 of last year, fulltiltpoker.com, partypoker.com, and pokerstars.com, all UK-owned, were seized by the FBI for alleged money-laundering. Charges were brought against the owners of those sites, while they were allowed to re-open operations as long as they didn't allow people from the US to play for money.
On February 28 of this year, Canadian-owned bodog.com was seized by the FBI (and is still down (http://bodog.com)) for conducting "an illegal gambling business," even though it's perfectly legal to gamble online in Canada.
After skimming a couple of articles, it would appear that Bodog and TVShack might not have had any problems if they had .ca or co.uk addresses.
Why Bodog's fate suggests .ca domains are a safer harbour than .com (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/tech-news/why-bodogs-fate-suggests-ca-domains-are-a-safer-harbour-than-com/article2377851/)
Have a .com web address? Know the legal risks (http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/have-com-web-address-know-legal-risks-ck-113355)
The fact that TVShack was only linking to stuff and not actually hosting it like Megaupload did concerns me. I co-run a service that hosts thousands of message boards. We have a very small staff, and we can't police every single post that's made on our system. Do we have to worry about being arrested, fined, and imprisoned if some of our members link to stuff they're not supposed to and we don't catch it?
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Murder someone in cold blood and you can be out in a couple years if the judge is particularly lenient that day. But if you cost a company to draw less than their calculated maximum profit, they'll go for blood, and you MIGHT get out before you die of old age. Because corporations are people with all the privileges and none of the restrictions, and money is far more important than human life. After all, prisons are such a profitable business themselves.
And that bolded part right there just about sums up my thoughts on what's wrong with this world, but since that will never change, I'll just resign myself to cynicism.
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I am no longer worried about being invaded.
I am now worried about being the invader.
Seriously, though, why the fuck can't America keeps its greasy tentacles out of other countries?
Same reason Britain couldn't when it was still an Empire