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Title: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 07, 2012, 02:40:51 pm
I'm not quite sure where to put this, so if it needs moved mods feel free to do so.

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Darius Simmons was by all accounts a good kid. The fun loving 6th grader was simply moving a garbage can in front of his home when his neighbor, 75 year old John Henry Spooner confronted him with a shotgun and accused him of stealing from his home. Darius, who was in school the time of the robbery, denied being involved with the theft. John Henry Spooner then proceed to shoot Darius in his chest, while he had his hands raise showing Spooner he was unarmed. His mom, who was watching in horror, ran to Darius to see if she could find a pulse, she couldn’t. Darius, 13 years old and unarmed, was murdered in cold blood in front of his mother.

According to Milwaukee Alderman Bob Donovan, he had breakfast with Spooner an hour before the shooting and Spooner told him he suspected Darius of the crime and was upset that the police hadn’t done anything about it. Spooner then told the Alderman, that there were other ways of dealing with these problems. That qualifies as premeditated murder of a 13 year old boy.  To make matters worse, the family only lived next to Spooner for a month.
 
John Henry Spooner was arrested and charged with first-degree intentional homicide. A judge set cash bond of $300,000.

http://www.blackyouthproject.com/2012/06/another-unarmed-black-youth-shot-killed-darius-simmons-was-only-13-years-old/

I'm speechless, all I can say is that my heart goes out to the mother. :(
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Her3tiK on June 07, 2012, 02:48:08 pm
Inb4 "OMG NOT RACIST AT ALL WAARRRRGARRRBLLL".

Seriously, this is gonna be fun after the Trayvon incident.
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Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 07, 2012, 02:57:03 pm
He was coming right at me.
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Post by: Art Vandelay on June 07, 2012, 03:26:24 pm
Charming
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Post by: ThunderWulf on June 07, 2012, 03:35:05 pm
What the fuck...  What is with people shooting teens this year?
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Post by: MadCatTLX on June 07, 2012, 03:47:56 pm
This reminds me of the time an old man in town around here had the jar of coins in his shop go missing and he assumed it must have been "that new nigger boy I hired". Thankfully there was no shotgun involved.

Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 07, 2012, 04:09:18 pm
There are no words that can describe the feelings I am experiencing about this issue.

I hope that man never sees the light of day again.
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Post by: niam2023 on June 07, 2012, 04:34:00 pm
Psychotic old rightwingers...

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Post by: ironbite on June 07, 2012, 04:38:51 pm
.....welp.  Here's a guy who will claim he did this in self defense.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 07, 2012, 04:56:38 pm
inb4 racist groups hail the man as a hero.
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Post by: m52nickerson on June 07, 2012, 08:26:51 pm
When the hell did we go back to the wild west in this country?  Did I miss something?
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Post by: syaoranvee on June 07, 2012, 08:42:14 pm
Death Penalty
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Post by: gyeonghwa on June 07, 2012, 08:53:22 pm
The perpetrator may not even live the see his sentencing as he has a terminal cancer.

inb4 racist groups hail the man as a hero.

Too late. This broke a few days ago and they were all hailing the guy as a hero for killing a "thug". Because any black male body to them are "thugs".
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 07, 2012, 09:00:15 pm
The perpetrator may not even live the see his sentencing as he has a terminal cancer.

inb4 racist groups hail the man as a hero.

Too late. This broke a few days ago and they were all hailing the guy as a hero for killing a "thug". Because any black male body to them are "thugs".
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guys poll is him dying of cancer an easy way out...
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 08, 2012, 07:04:07 pm
inb4 racist groups hail the man as a hero.

I bet you Stormfront already is.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Askold on June 09, 2012, 01:16:51 am
*UPDATE* It got worse.
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Community Activist David Muhammad spoke with the family yesterday and sent me these corrections and information the family wants to get out.

Spooner shot Simmons with a 9mm handgun five feet away from him in the chest, in front of his mother.

Darius was shot once in the chest with his hands raised.  He ran to escape and collapsed at the corner, while Spooner attempted to shoot him in the back, and tried to fire a third shot.

After police arrived, Darius’s body remained on the sidewalk, while police questioned his mother, Patricia Larry, in a squad car for approximately two hours.

During the police investigation of the shooting, they searched Ms. Larry’s home again.  Finding nothing, they then proceeded to arrest his older brother for having truancy tickets.

In contrast, Spooner’s family was allowed to go into the home and remove “items” despite it being the crime scene.

John Spooner was given a $300,000 bail, (only $30,000 would have to be posted for him to be free).  This is uncommon when the charge is murder in the first degree. 


He tried to shoot an unarmed and wounded child in the back. A child that had in no way been presenting a thread and had in fact tried to avoid and escape the conflict. This has nothing to do with self defense. Furthermore if this story is true then the police have also handled the case in a rather suspicious way.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 09, 2012, 01:20:32 am
"Hey your soon got murdered, but were going to search your house and if we find nothing we'll arrest your other son"

Who fuck does that? Someone needs to be suspended or fired for that fuck up.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: QueenofHearts on June 09, 2012, 11:40:48 am
"Hey your son got murdered, but were going to search your house and if we find nothing we'll arrest your other son"

Who fuck does that? Someone needs to be suspended or fired for that fuck up.

I don't think it happened like that or I would at least like to believe that it was more along the lines of officer asks a bunch of questions followed by "Spooner accused your son of stealing, do you know if your son was involved in anything criminal?" The mom said "no" and the police asked if they could search the house to verify that. This is also really part of how police are trained, they are instructed to ask if they can search things like cars or houses so they can find criminal possessions or activities with every chance to stop a crime and no liability if the search is consensual. Spooner probably declined a search of his house and thus the officers could not search his house* (to the best of my knowledge).

Again, I could be wrong and such thing could be racial prejudice on the officers' part. However, at this point we really don't know enough either way and I would like to believe that such search disparities arose due to legal technicalities and not prejudice.

*EDIT: I should say without a warrant.
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Post by: kefkaownsall on June 09, 2012, 01:04:24 pm
Still 300 K bail that's a little low for first degree I know bail cant be excessive but still
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Post by: Meshakhad on June 09, 2012, 02:30:04 pm
Make an example out of them.

Arrest the cops, and charge them with accessory to murder.
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Post by: ThunderWulf on June 09, 2012, 02:34:51 pm
Why the HELL would you do that to the victim's family?!
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Post by: booley on June 09, 2012, 03:05:33 pm
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I don't think it happened like that or I would at least like to believe that it was more along the lines of officer asks a bunch of questions followed by "Spooner accused your son of stealing, do you know if your son was involved in anything criminal?" The mom said "no" and the police asked if they could search the house to verify that. This is also really part of how police are trained, they are instructed to ask if they can search things like cars or houses so they can find criminal possessions or activities with every chance to stop a crime and no liability if the search is consensual. Spooner probably declined a search of his house and thus the officers could not search his house* (to the best of my knowledge).

Again, I could be wrong and such thing could be racial prejudice on the officers' part. However, at this point we really don't know enough either way and I would like to believe that such search disparities arose due to legal technicalities and not prejudice.

*EDIT: I should say without a warrant.

that would explain maybe why one house was searched and another wasn't (though you would think shooting someone in public would give some kind of probable cause.. but I'm not a lawyer)

However Id o know that cops have some latitude about making arrests.  Arresting the other son for such a minor thing as truancy when his brother just got murdered seems a bit lacking in the human decency dept.

It's like arresting some for jay walking  while they are reporting being raped.

WTF seems the most reasonable response.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: QueenofHearts on June 09, 2012, 04:01:49 pm

that would explain maybe why one house was searched and another wasn't (though you would think shooting someone in public would give some kind of probable cause.. but I'm not a lawyer)

Yeah, and neither am I, but to my understanding (and verified by wikipedia) any search of a person's house must be accompanied by a search warrant and the only exception that may apply to this case would be if police felt evidence may be destroyed (only evidence I can think of would be the weapon). Its also possible the police were unaware of this exception or they had confiscated the gun and therefore had no grounds to search.

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However Id o know that cops have some latitude about making arrests.  Arresting the other son for such a minor thing as truancy when his brother just got murdered seems a bit lacking in the human decency dept.

It's like arresting some for jay walking  while they are reporting being raped.

WTF seems the most reasonable response.

Yeah, I have to agree. I can not imagine how traumatic it would be to watch your son be murdered via racial profiling and then to watch your other son be arrested (or in the brother's case watch such a thing and then end up arrested). The other son being arrested for such a trivial crime leads me to suspect the search was solely to create more arrests. But yeah, the officers should have shown a measure of sympathy here and turned a blind eye.
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 10, 2012, 10:34:51 am
This is just... ugh. I'll never be able to understand how people can be so cruel.
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Post by: driewerf on June 10, 2012, 03:09:46 pm
inb4 racist groups hail the man as a hero.
just copy-pasting from Youtube:
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Well.......You people need to start acting like human beings instead of animals. Maybe then the killing will stop. I'm telling ya.....white people are fed up with your nigger ways. We aren't gonna take it anymore. You better start walking the line, niggers.
way of blaming the victim

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nigger stole his shit he deserved to be shot 
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JUST AS LONG AS IT'S BLACK KIDS BEING KILLS I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.
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trigger trigger shoot that nigger , watch ya back sambo
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 10, 2012, 03:11:10 pm
To one of the commentors hey idiot the kid didnt steal
Title: Re: 13 year old boy shot to death in front of his mother...
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 10, 2012, 05:12:06 pm
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Well.......You people need to start acting like human beings instead of animals. Maybe then the killing will stop. I'm telling ya.....white people are fed up with your nigger ways. We aren't gonna take it anymore. You better start walking the line, niggers.


Yeah! Hare dare that little colored boy act like an animal by obeying his mother and taking the trash out! I bet he mowed the lawn and put the dishes away too! What an animal.

If you wanna see a race acting like "animals" then look no further than our own. At every point in our nation's history there were white people fucking up every one else.