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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1140 on: May 06, 2013, 04:11:01 pm »
Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about the most racist guy at work being an elderly black man?

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1141 on: May 06, 2013, 04:46:28 pm »
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:



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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1142 on: May 06, 2013, 05:05:02 pm »
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

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I had dinner a little over a month ago with Diane Moore, a professor in ethics & devinity from Harvard, and she defined privilege really well. She said "Priviliege is the privilege to ignore injustice." We can all sit here and look at a photo of a white straight man who has it rough, and of course many do, but it doesn't do any good to ignore that various other groups in the aggregate have it worse off because they are black, or gay, or female. Of course there are homeless white men. However, let's not ignore that minorities, both racial and sexual, are for more likely to be homeless than the general population. Let's not ignore that we have people making rape apologies yet not apologies for male victims or other crimes. If we really are aiming for some sort of equality, then addressing underlying bigotries which cause these discrepancies is the first place to start.

Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1143 on: May 06, 2013, 05:34:30 pm »
Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1144 on: May 06, 2013, 06:06:11 pm »
Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.
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Exactly. Many trans homeless are turned away from homeless shelters, and god forbid some drunk asshole finds out that you don't fit their definition of "male" or "female". You will almost always get killed. If you manage to defend yourself? The police will arrest you but not the fuckface that started the fight in the first place.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1145 on: May 06, 2013, 06:07:58 pm »
For everyone sick of Social Justice idiots complaining about privilege:

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I had dinner a little over a month ago with Diane Moore, a professor in ethics & devinity from Harvard, and she defined privilege really well. She said "Priviliege is the privilege to ignore injustice." We can all sit here and look at a photo of a white straight man who has it rough, and of course many do, but it doesn't do any good to ignore that various other groups in the aggregate have it worse off because they are black, or gay, or female. Of course there are homeless white men. However, let's not ignore that minorities, both racial and sexual, are for more likely to be homeless than the general population. Let's not ignore that we have people making rape apologies yet not apologies for male victims or other crimes. If we really are aiming for some sort of equality, then addressing underlying bigotries which cause these discrepancies is the first place to start.

Likewise, just because a few SJW's have poisoned the term does not mean that it isn't a very real thing.

I don't think anyone's debating that, at least not here anyways, and I totally agree with that.  I just think it's annoying when people automatically assume that just because I'm a cis white straight guy that my life is automatically all sunshine and rainbows.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1146 on: May 06, 2013, 08:42:09 pm »
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1147 on: May 06, 2013, 08:47:07 pm »
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1149 on: May 06, 2013, 09:07:37 pm »
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.

No, racism is basically structural. The ideas are very much secondary to the economics. How do I know? Racism is actually modern. It is not the case that racism is human nature. When, in around the 15th century, racism became economically vital for Europe (colonialism, ect) of course ideas arose to justify that.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1150 on: May 06, 2013, 09:35:12 pm »
Racism is a system of economic discrimination against people of a particular ethnicity and the ideas enforcing that system. It's almost impossible for an ethnic minority to be racist unless they're mercenary.

Basically conservatives are saying "Would that the world treated everyone equally, but if you do anything to achieve that, you're a racist". Well, fuck you. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?

Actually, racism is the idea that certain races are somehow inherently superior or inferior to others. You see this in the stereotypes that all blacks are either athletic or lazy, that all Asians are good at math but terrible drivers, and yes, in the idea that it's impossible for minorities to be racist.

Now, racism in attitude has often led to economic racism, even today, but that doesn't mean "racism=inflicted economic disadvantage". Having spent time in prison, I can tell you categorically that stereotyping and assumptions of superiority or inferiority are FAR from limited to whites.

No, racism is basically structural. The ideas are very much secondary to the economics. How do I know? Racism is actually modern. It is not the case that racism is human nature. When, in around the 15th century, racism became economically vital for Europe (colonialism, ect) of course ideas arose to justify that.

When did I ever make the claim that racism was human nature? It's human nature to (generally) be most comfortable with those who are most obviously like ourselves, but "comfort" doesn't equal "superiority."

As for your economic argument, that's very much a chicken-and-egg proposition. After all, what defines a race? There have been times in the past when the English would describe the Irish in ways that wouldn't be at all out of place in a modern KKK rant about black people. Chattel slavery as we saw practiced by Europeans enslaving Africans is a relatively recent phenomenon in world history (at least, to my knowledge), but the idea that we should be wary and distrustful of people who are visibly unlike ourselves is FAR from new. Chinese and Japanese culture still have strong undercurrents of racism against anyone who isn't "one of us", and the caste system of India was originally set up partly along ethnic lines, with darker-skinned ethnic groups being relegated to lower castes. The Old Testament even gives instructions that the ancient Jews not intermarry with other tribes; at that time, ideas that we would label "racism" and "tribalism" were almost completely interchangeable, because, as you pointed out, the concept of "race" being defined by skin color wasn't around yet.

Even allowing, for the sake of the thought experiment, that your proposition may be true...how, exactly, does that make it "not-racism" for a black person to say "all white people are racist" or "white people in general are greedier than other races"...both things I've had said to my face? How does it make their attitudes any less wrong? And if their attitudes AREN'T a form of racism, what would you call it?
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1151 on: May 07, 2013, 01:29:09 am »
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1152 on: May 07, 2013, 10:56:48 am »
Whether racism - or tribalism, originally - is innate or indoctrinated with humans, certainly "Kick 'em while their down"....is...too common a reflex :-[
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1153 on: May 07, 2013, 07:53:06 pm »
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1154 on: May 07, 2013, 08:54:06 pm »
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