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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2985 on: June 19, 2013, 12:01:29 pm »
Ya know, the whole concept of legal immunity confounds me to no end.  Except in very, very specific circumstances, it just seems like it gives people an excuse to break the law for the fuck of it.  Diplomatic immunity?  Worst fucking idea ever.  If you're going to work with other countries, you'd damn well better know and abide by their laws.  Sure, provide for their defense, but if you run down a nun in the streets of downtown America, then it shouldn't matter if you're a millionaire oil tycoon, a dumbass kid, a regular dick, or a foreign diplomat: you go to fucking prison for breaking the fucking law.

I too have some issues with the concept of diplomatic immunity, but there are reasons for it. The main reason is to prevent countries from using their own laws to attack foreign diplomats. Imagine if China could exert pressure on the US by arresting US diplomats on trumped-up charges. And in cases where a diplomat commits a serious crime unrelated to his work, his country will generally waive immunity.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2986 on: June 19, 2013, 01:03:46 pm »

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2987 on: June 19, 2013, 01:18:34 pm »
Ya know, the whole concept of legal immunity confounds me to no end.  Except in very, very specific circumstances, it just seems like it gives people an excuse to break the law for the fuck of it.  Diplomatic immunity?  Worst fucking idea ever.  If you're going to work with other countries, you'd damn well better know and abide by their laws.  Sure, provide for their defense, but if you run down a nun in the streets of downtown America, then it shouldn't matter if you're a millionaire oil tycoon, a dumbass kid, a regular dick, or a foreign diplomat: you go to fucking prison for breaking the fucking law.

I too have some issues with the concept of diplomatic immunity, but there are reasons for it. The main reason is to prevent countries from using their own laws to attack foreign diplomats. Imagine if China could exert pressure on the US by arresting US diplomats on trumped-up charges. And in cases where a diplomat commits a serious crime unrelated to his work, his country will generally waive immunity.

Of course, it also leads to countries getting out of millions in unpaid traffic fines.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2988 on: June 19, 2013, 02:06:27 pm »


I sometimes fantasize about the upheaval that would result if the confiscation thing actually happened.

Of course, hopefully it would stay a fantasy.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2989 on: June 19, 2013, 03:50:25 pm »


Do these people not have even the slightest comprehension what the phrase "background check" means? Because, it doesn't involve anything close to what they said here.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2990 on: June 19, 2013, 04:26:18 pm »
Do these people not have even the slightest comprehension what the phrase "background check" means? Because, it doesn't involve anything close to what they said here.

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate and say that I don't think they're referring to the recent gun control push as such but were, instead, referring to an interview Feinstein gave on 60 Minutes back in 1995 where she said:

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That said, I still find these sorts of posters silly.
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« Reply #2991 on: June 22, 2013, 05:19:15 pm »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2992 on: June 22, 2013, 06:42:56 pm »


Do these people not have even the slightest comprehension what the phrase "background check" means? Because, it doesn't involve anything close to what they said here.

It's an article of faith.

Just like christian fundies say jesus is the answer.  What's the question?  Doesn't matter.  Jesus is the ANSWER!!!!

Like wise it's an article of faith by many among those opposed to gun control  that any attempt at curbing gun violence that isn't "MORE GUNS!" is gun confiscation.  The logic is inconsequential.  The facts are inconsequential.  IF it's gun control it must be about black booted thugs kicking down your door to take your guns.  It's an assumed part of any gun control debate for them.  Deny it and you must be either a fool or a lier, which means you can be safely ignored.

It also helps that they already have talking points against total confiscation.  So the straw man helps them ignore what anybody else is actually saying.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2993 on: June 22, 2013, 07:18:03 pm »
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I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2994 on: June 22, 2013, 08:01:46 pm »
Continuing on the theme of Diane Feinstein calling Snowden a traitor, I wonder what the Teap Party thinks of some of the Wingnuts like Michelle Bachmann, Marc Theissen, and Peter King also calling him a traitor. Is it okay for them to do it because they're against gun control?

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2995 on: June 22, 2013, 09:37:47 pm »


The ethnicism is stiffling...as if a white father wouldn't be equally deadbeat!

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2996 on: June 23, 2013, 12:11:52 am »


Umm are they talking about the whole NSA spying crap, because if I remember correctly, you can thank the Patriot Act for that, which became legal under Bush, but I forgot you rightwingers tend to forget that detail, right??
Also any business needs to thank the god damn community that they're part of, otherwise you won't have a fucking business to begin with.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2997 on: June 23, 2013, 01:35:04 am »


Umm are they talking about the whole NSA spying crap, because if I remember correctly, you can thank the Patriot Act for that, which became legal under Bush, but I forgot you rightwingers tend to forget that detail, right??
Also any business needs to thank the god damn community that they're part of, otherwise you won't have a fucking business to begin with.

Despite the pure wharrgarbl and more taking Obama quotes out of context (and butchering Star Wars), i kind of agree with him about Congress being a hive of scum and villainy, but not for the same reasons.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2998 on: June 23, 2013, 02:49:29 am »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #2999 on: June 23, 2013, 07:08:38 am »
Despite the pure wharrgarbl and more taking Obama quotes out of context (and butchering Star Wars), i kind of agree with him about Congress being a hive of scum and villainy, but not for the same reasons.
Scum sure, they aren't really effective enough to be worthy of villainy though. They'd have to do SOMETHING to pull that off.