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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: Askold on September 23, 2016, 02:15:49 pm

Title: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: Askold on September 23, 2016, 02:15:49 pm
http://gizmodo.com/palmer-luckey-millionaire-founder-of-oculus-rift-love-1786994094

I'm not sure if you've been following this story, but TL;DR The man who founded Oculus Rift (and sold it to Google) was recently found to have been financing people who make anti-Hillary memes. (A group that proudly claims to be shitposting for Trump and trying to prove that meme-magic is real.)

Now it turns out that he is also in bed with the GamerGate. Quite literally because his girlfriend is a notable GG member and Trump fan.

So yeah, a "nearly billionaire" has been spending a small fortune to finance "shitposting" frog memes, Hilllary/Killary jokes and who knows what.

We shall wait and see what Facebook and Oculus Rift do about this PR nightmare...
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: ironbite on September 23, 2016, 02:56:54 pm
Severely distance themselves from him and then go on with life?
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: Askold on September 23, 2016, 03:12:21 pm
But he's still working for them.

He sold the company but he didn't stop working there so they are going to have to fire him if they wish to distance themselves. Possibly quickly because some smaller developers have already announced that they are dropping Oculus support on their games (the bigger companies might not care about minor PR problems but the smaller ones are afraid of any customers boycotting them.)
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 23, 2016, 04:06:39 pm
I suppose we all need a hobby.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 25, 2016, 11:43:22 am
We've been here before, but firing people for political beliefs (and political contributions) is pretty fucked up and should be a) illegal or at least  b) widely regarded as a betrayal of everything democracy stands for.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: pyro on September 25, 2016, 04:04:41 pm
Look at what happened when Mozilla did it. Granted, it would've been just as bad had they kept him on.

There's no way to win in a fiasco like this, is there?
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: ironbite on September 25, 2016, 04:29:05 pm
Its either they lose out on money or they lose out on principles.  Guess which one corporations value more.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: dpareja on September 25, 2016, 04:36:52 pm
Its either they lose out on money or they lose out on principles.  Guess which one corporations value more.

If they're publicly owned in the US, they can only care about one of those.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: pyro on September 25, 2016, 04:39:33 pm
Its either they lose out on money or they lose out on principles.  Guess which one corporations value more.

You're missing my point. When your customers are split in two groups who want the opposite thing (Yes on DOMA! No on DOMA!), there's no way to make them all happy. If the thing you value is money, the best choice is to avoid donating to anything or expressing any political opinion at all. Otherwise, you're guaranteed to alienate somebody.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: dpareja on September 25, 2016, 05:37:09 pm
Its either they lose out on money or they lose out on principles.  Guess which one corporations value more.

You're missing my point. When your customers are split in two groups who want the opposite thing (Yes on DOMA! No on DOMA!), there's no way to make them all happy. If the thing you value is money, the best choice is to avoid donating to anything or expressing any political opinion at all. Otherwise, you're guaranteed to alienate somebody.

Except that expressing no opinion is essentially expressing an opinion in favor of the status quo... and some of your customers are going to be opposed to the status quo.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: ironbite on September 25, 2016, 05:55:19 pm
Its either they lose out on money or they lose out on principles.  Guess which one corporations value more.

You're missing my point. When your customers are split in two groups who want the opposite thing (Yes on DOMA! No on DOMA!), there's no way to make them all happy. If the thing you value is money, the best choice is to avoid donating to anything or expressing any political opinion at all. Otherwise, you're guaranteed to alienate somebody.


If you had a point I'd probably get it.  Problem is you don't have one.

Oculus Rift founder has been paying the chans to make racist memes in an effort to sway the internet over to Trump's side and make him President.  That's the story.  Oculus Rift is owned by Facebook.  People in the tech industry get this connection.  Trump is not well liked by the internet.  Ergo, Oculus Rift founder has chosen the worst hill to die on.

Ironbite-but that's ok pyro, at least you've still got a great ass.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: pyro on September 25, 2016, 09:30:13 pm
If he'd been paying people to make anti-Trump/pro-Clinton memes, you don't think there would be boycotts then, too?


Edit:

Except that expressing no opinion is essentially expressing an opinion in favor of the status quo... and some of your customers are going to be opposed to the status quo.

"Look at the cool VR goggles!"

"You support income inequality? You bastard!"
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: dpareja on September 25, 2016, 09:41:17 pm
Except that expressing no opinion is essentially expressing an opinion in favor of the status quo... and some of your customers are going to be opposed to the status quo.

"Look at the cool VR goggles!"

"You support income inequality? You bastard!"

I should clarify: expressing no opinion when asked your opinion.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: pyro on September 27, 2016, 12:28:57 am
I should clarify: expressing no opinion when asked your opinion.

At that point, yeah. There's no way out of that one.
Title: Re: Oculus Rift founder and his Trump-memes
Post by: dpareja on September 27, 2016, 12:38:04 am
I should clarify: expressing no opinion when asked your opinion.

At that point, yeah. There's no way out of that one.

The issue, really, arises in the gray areas: would PayPal, for instance, have been supporting North Carolina's infamous HB2 if they'd continued with their plans to expand their operations in the state? Would Springsteen have been supporting it if he'd continued with his pre-scheduled concert?