Disney College Program Cast Member raped...

[gomer21xx]

...and nobody cared.

As I posted on Facebook:

You know, I once worked under the College Program, as did two of my friends on my list.

To read this and learn about this kind of bullshit that happened disgusts me to no end.

What SHOULD have happened was the rapist be prosecuted and tossed into prison (not jail, PRISON; yes, there IS a difference) and the two people who handled this woman's case be fired, at the very least. Not reassigned. Fired. As in, look for another line of work, because you SUCK at this!

[ironbite]

All because she was drinking they decided it was all her fault.

Ironbite-amazing.

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

I really want to smack some of the people commenting on the article.

She was not raped, just gilted
False rape claims are worse than rape.

[TheUnknown]

A some of the comments are disgusting, especially:

This girl was not raped.
She even told her friends that she had a good time.
She even wanted to be friends with him afterwards.
She only gets upset when she sees him at a party chatting and laughing with other girls.
Her feelings are hurt so she gets nasty.

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I think this is utter BS as well. I'm a man, and no, I do not think rape is okay in any way shape or form.

However, this does not look good for the girl, however you want to justify it. She was drunk, she didn't scream, didn't fight and didn't get physical.

Look at it from the guy's point of view. She obviously let it happen, minus a word she might have uttered once or twice. If she fought him and he got physical back with her, THEN it is rape.

She was most likely too drunk, might have said no at first, then got into it and let it happen afterwards. Then she was filled with regret that day after and decided it was rape. Girls think they can just scream rape whenever they want and get someone in trouble.

AND she talked to the guy and waited for months. You can justify her feelings all you want, but from an outside perspective, it just doesn't look good. Plain and simple.

Someone who doesn't want to have sex would fight, scream, call the cops, and make a huge scene out of it. Not try to make friends with the guy and treat it as if it's no big deal

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Oh and here's an excerpt from what she said in case you want to read it again:

I didn’t know how to feel about what happened. In the beginning, I told myself it was a misunderstanding; maybe he hadn’t heard me. I blamed myself; I should have yelled louder. I should have pushed harder. I should have punched him and ran out of the room. I always thought that if I was ever raped I would beat the guy up. Does that mean I wasn’t raped?

To me, it sounds like she even questioned whether or not she was raped. She sounded unsure. If she wonders if he didn't hear her, could it have been that it was loud, she was really drunk and slurred the words? There are a number of things, but if she truly felt as if it were rape, she would have been totally certain instead of questioning herself.

It sounds to me that she maybe didn't want to have sex with the guy but felt pressured to and didn't express her intentions to not have sex clearly enough.

She didn't want to have sex with him but did anyway, and now she is trying to justify that as him raping her. It's utter bullshit.

By the way, I am going to law school and I will tell you all again, she has no case. Period.

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Actually you're the idiot Kate. Actions speak louder than words in this society.

I shouldn't even have to say that because it's quite obvious by the actions of the counselor and people in the article that they too agree. We need more people like them, actually.

You can't claim rape and automatically conclude that it is. To do so merely based on the woman's word is mere stupidity and ignorance. You have to look at the facts.

1. There was alcohol involved. She got drunk with the drunk. It wasn't a "back alley rape" where it's clear there is a legitimate victim.

2. She waited months before making the report.

3. She kept in friendly contact with the guy.

4. She brought up other girls he's talking to which is a clear sign of jealousy. To hint that he is going to go and rape every girl he talks to is fucking retarded.

What do you expect the authorities to do, Kate? Convict the guy of rape based on her word without any clear evidence that he raped her? You have to look at the situation objectively and based on what you know.

Yes, you absolutely should kick and scream! You think someone who really doesn't want to have sex is going to lay there limp with her legs wide open and say no and suddenly that's rape?

If you don't want something to happen to you, you take initiative and fight in every way you can. At least that way there can be clear evidence to make a conviction. Clearly you have no knowledge of law or how the justice system works.

The conclusion is obvious and anyone with basic understanding of social dynamics or anyone with a brain (like the counselor who is trained in this field) knows that she probably got too drunk, made a mistake, regretted sleeping with him too early and got attached to him. Now she's jealous that he's out with other girls, she feels used, and now she's bitter and jealous.

Not a real, legitimate rape case and any jury would agree with me.

To the above, even if this guy makes a valid argument about how rape cases work in the legal system, his understanding of victims, along with the rest of the comments here, seems to be absolute shit.  Hell, even if it turns out that these guys are right and that this is a case of false accusation, this attitude towards victims and this "understanding" of how "victims should behave" is terrible, and doesn't change the fact that shit like this is what prevents legitimate rapes from being reported.

[The Illusive Man]

I recounted everything that happened that night while the counselor stayed silent and seemed at least mildly sympathetic. When I told her we had been drinking, her face changed from “concerned” to “you made a mistake.”  Still, I told her, I said "no" the entire time and he never listened.
 
The first thing she said to me was “Well, now you know not to be hanging around boys in the middle of the night. You know what they want.”
 
Take a few seconds and re-read that. Now let’s unpack it.
 
A certified counselor was insinuating that it was my fault that my coworker decided to rape me -- as if I should have known better than to interact with any man after dark. Not only that, but she was advising me to approach every interaction with a man as if he is a potential rapist, including every man that works at Disney World.  If I react to a man with anything less than hostility after sundown, whatever happens is my fault.

Holy lack of empathy batman! The counselor is an embarrassment to the field of psychology and needs to be decertified immediately.

[Thejebusfire]

Unfortunately, this happens a lot. A similar case happened with MGM and they managed to cover it up... For 65 years.

[Lithp]

I recounted everything that happened that night while the counselor stayed silent and seemed at least mildly sympathetic. When I told her we had been drinking, her face changed from “concerned” to “you made a mistake.”  Still, I told her, I said "no" the entire time and he never listened.
 
The first thing she said to me was “Well, now you know not to be hanging around boys in the middle of the night. You know what they want.”
 
Take a few seconds and re-read that. Now let’s unpack it.
 
A certified counselor was insinuating that it was my fault that my coworker decided to rape me -- as if I should have known better than to interact with any man after dark. Not only that, but she was advising me to approach every interaction with a man as if he is a potential rapist, including every man that works at Disney World.  If I react to a man with anything less than hostility after sundown, whatever happens is my fault.

Holy lack of empathy batman! The counselor is an embarrassment to the field of psychology and needs to be decertified immediately.

Oh, you don't actually need a psychology degree in order to be a councilor.

[anti-nonsense]

Seems like there's a rash of fucked up shit going on lately, or maybe that's just me.

[lord gibbon]

It does seem like there's been a lot of dreadful shit going on, lately, but two things you should remember; one, even all these are a small minority of the people, and two, there is probably no more going on than in the past, it's just reported now.

Mind you, not trying to excuse any of these people. The perpetrators are utter scum and should be treated as such. Just that this isn't a new phenomenon.

[The Illusive Man]

I recounted everything that happened that night while the counselor stayed silent and seemed at least mildly sympathetic. When I told her we had been drinking, her face changed from “concerned” to “you made a mistake.”  Still, I told her, I said "no" the entire time and he never listened.
 
The first thing she said to me was “Well, now you know not to be hanging around boys in the middle of the night. You know what they want.”
 
Take a few seconds and re-read that. Now let’s unpack it.
 
A certified counselor was insinuating that it was my fault that my coworker decided to rape me -- as if I should have known better than to interact with any man after dark. Not only that, but she was advising me to approach every interaction with a man as if he is a potential rapist, including every man that works at Disney World.  If I react to a man with anything less than hostility after sundown, whatever happens is my fault.

Holy lack of empathy batman! The counselor is an embarrassment to the field of psychology and needs to be decertified immediately.

Oh, you don't actually need a psychology degree in order to be a councilor.

I forgot, social workers.

[PosthumanHeresy]

I'm just going to say, Disney is clearly a bunch of fucknozzles, but I don't really know if the guy intended to rape her at all, or if he did hear her. If they were both hammered, yes, it is most certainly wrong if she's saying no, and I don't think it's that right to have sex with a hammered chick, but if he really was hammered, and she was hammered, and we weren't there, we can't truly say if she was even speaking understandably. Again, hammered. Drunk sex is still wrong, and rape is horrible, and I feel horrible for her, and Disney is, as said before, a bunch of fucknozzles, but I don't think this guy had any malicious intent at all, or even intended to rape her, thought he was raping her, thought it was ever rape, or thought she felt like it was. Now, if he was lying about being too drunk to remember, he's a douchewagon and all of that goes out the window. But, as she said, she just doesn't believe him. That's basically getting into "he said-she said" territory. Point is, fuck Disney.