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Title: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 01, 2013, 04:05:34 am
Basically, this is a general thread for ranting about fics, fic elements, and fic writers that are annoying, angering, or just plain awful.  You can post the fic links, but you don't have to.  However, if you also have a fic you think is awesome, you can post it here, too.  This wasn't posted in Shippers Ship because this doesn't have anything to do with shipping.  Shipping issues should still go in Shippers Ship.

Here's what inspired me to start this thread.

I found a fic on Archive of Our Own, and the disclaimer for it immediately set off a red flag by having the author say "I had this on FF.net but had a problem with flamers, I know the fic has flaws but I want you to overlook them and see my amazing narrative."  I'm not exaggerating that last part; he literally called his own work an amazing narrative.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I always get really wary of authors when they self-congratulate like that.  Upon skimming the 986 reviews it had on FF.net, 99% of which were gushing praise, and reading the author's notes, it seems the 'flamers' he was referring to weren't actually flaming trolls telling him he sucked, but people who felt he was making mistakes in his narrative (particularly the technology) and getting into a heated debate with him.  He also apparently posted a chapter that was entirely an angry, swearing rant at said 'flamers,' and then later removed it (its reviews are still there, that's how I know it existed). 

So yeah, this rant was less about the fic, which I haven't read and don't plan to because I know I won't like it, and more about the behavior of the author.  I hate it when authors make posts that reek of "Don't point out the flaws, just see my work for the greatness that it is!"

What about you guys?  What fics or fic cliches or author habits have you read that piss you off?

Note:  If the mods think this still should've gone in Shippers Ship the Darndest Things, they can move it.  I just wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 01, 2013, 04:31:43 am
Most mpreg fic, because it's hardly ever portrayed realistically.

The pregnant guy is usually a really OOC delicate butterfly character, and they're completely fine with being pregnant, even when they didn't even know it was possible for them.

It's a shame, because it could be an interesting story line.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Valerius on September 01, 2013, 04:52:30 am
Most mpreg fic, because it's hardly ever portrayed realistically.

The pregnant guy is usually a really OOC delicate butterfly character, and they're completely fine with being pregnant, even when they didn't even know it was possible for them.

It's a shame, because it could be an interesting story line.

Unless the species of the main characters are seahorses, how would you even portray male pregnancy realistically? As far as I know, the only way for a man to become pregnant would be for an embryo to be surgically implanted into his abdomen, which is pretty much guaranteed to result in his eventual death.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 01, 2013, 06:27:48 am
Magic.

Also, my biggest problem is OOC, and canon violations in non-alternate universe fanfiction. Also, real person fic that screws up with dates, time frames and ages. Personalities can be changed somewhat and I'll be fine, but if you're taking a shy person and making them a rapist, you're doing it wrong. Depressing porn fic is also a seriously irritating thing. It sucks the eroticism right out of it. Also, dead fic when the fic is good.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 01, 2013, 06:49:50 am
Most mpreg fic, because it's hardly ever portrayed realistically.

The pregnant guy is usually a really OOC delicate butterfly character, and they're completely fine with being pregnant, even when they didn't even know it was possible for them.

It's a shame, because it could be an interesting story line.

Unless the species of the main characters are seahorses, how would you even portray male pregnancy realistically? As far as I know, the only way for a man to become pregnant would be for an embryo to be surgically implanted into his abdomen, which is pretty much guaranteed to result in his eventual death.

I'm not really bothered by the impossibility of male pregnancy. Magic isn't real, and I love books about that.

It's the fact that whenever a guy gets pregnant in fanfic their whole reaction is just off. They're always completely happy to be pregnant and become all mumsy.

It's always portrayed in a super cutesy way, when really I think it should be more of a horror plot. Like the scene in Prometheus where she has the alien squid baby.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 01, 2013, 09:29:09 am
Most mpreg fic, because it's hardly ever portrayed realistically.

The pregnant guy is usually a really OOC delicate butterfly character, and they're completely fine with being pregnant, even when they didn't even know it was possible for them.

It's a shame, because it could be an interesting story line.

Unless the species of the main characters are seahorses, how would you even portray male pregnancy realistically? As far as I know, the only way for a man to become pregnant would be for an embryo to be surgically implanted into his abdomen, which is pretty much guaranteed to result in his eventual death.

I'm not really bothered by the impossibility of male pregnancy. Magic isn't real, and I love books about that.

It's the fact that whenever a guy gets pregnant in fanfic their whole reaction is just off. They're always completely happy to be pregnant and become all mumsy.

It's always portrayed in a super cutesy way, when really I think it should be more of a horror plot. Like the scene in Prometheus where she has the alien squid baby.

Hell, pregnancy's already a horror plot.  Think about it: you've got this parasitic organism that's slowly growing in your abdomen, leeching your nutrients for itself while providing nothing of its own whilst in-utero, uses chemical shenanigans to keep your immune system from killing it, and fucks with your mind thru your hormones.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Lady Evil on September 01, 2013, 10:34:49 am
And then there's Christian fic, where the characters act like they've never heard of God before, but once they do, it's all they want! Writers of Christian fics are rather thin skinned so it's hard to find some of their works. here's a few titles:

How Can I Go On?: Sailor Moon fic. No transformations or talking cats. Serena is converted to Christianity by her new friends and is so happy she doesn't care that she's later raped and impregnated. It's all God's plan, after all! Includes a scene of Serena praying in front of a prom dress.

Harry Potter Turns to the Lord: Harry Potter goes flying on his broomstick, has an accident and is helped out by a Muggle. Muggle tells Harry all about Jesus and gives him a Bible to read. Harry thinks the Bible "makes sense" and snaps his wand in half, vowing never to do witchcraft again. No mention made of You-Know-Who

The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 01, 2013, 11:04:32 am
Can't think of how to explain it properly, but I also hate Harry Potter fics when people constantly mention house traits.

Like if a character says/does something even the slightest bit sneaky, someone has to say something like "How very Slytherin of you."
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 01, 2013, 03:21:42 pm
The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.
Shows where my mind is that I imagined Fluttershy suddenly being in the "Ohne Dich" music video.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 01, 2013, 03:37:15 pm
And then there's Christian fic, where the characters act like they've never heard of God before, but once they do, it's all they want! Writers of Christian fics are rather thin skinned so it's hard to find some of their works. here's a few titles:

How Can I Go On?: Sailor Moon fic. No transformations or talking cats. Serena is converted to Christianity by her new friends and is so happy she doesn't care that she's later raped and impregnated. It's all God's plan, after all! Includes a scene of Serena praying in front of a prom dress.

Harry Potter Turns to the Lord: Harry Potter goes flying on his broomstick, has an accident and is helped out by a Muggle. Muggle tells Harry all about Jesus and gives him a Bible to read. Harry thinks the Bible "makes sense" and snaps his wand in half, vowing never to do witchcraft again. No mention made of You-Know-Who

The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.

To be fair, there's some debate as to whether these fics, particularly the Harry Potter one, are troll fics or not.

On another note, character bashing.  This isn't a trait of just shipping fics, though it's where it's most often found, and often where it's most infuriating.  It almost always requires extensive character derailment of non-villainous characters.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 01, 2013, 04:02:25 pm
This is a considerable overlap with Shippers Ship the Darnest Pairings, but Die For Our Ship fanfics and fanworks. I've seen enough fiction where Sally Acorn is killed in the most bizarre and/or horrible ways, just so Sonic can be with Amy Rose, and as a person who ships both (I still largely prefer the Sonic/Amy ship) it makes all the Sonic/Amy shippers look bad.

And then there exists a fanfic based on the Pokémon Black and White versions (1) arc of the PokéSpecial manga, written by a FerrisWheelShipper bitter about the manga choosing Black (a counterpart to Hilbert/Touya) to be with White (counterpart to Hilda/Touko) instead of White being with N (let alone he is a different character in the manga, and actually abusive and malicious). I haven't read the fic, but a horror story of someone who has, and he mentioned how Black is killed and the grieving White takes part and finds new love with N.

And should I mention that the Ferris Wheel scene in the Manga (from what I've heard from fans of the manga) is much different from in the game? In the game, it's an aromantic advance in the story where you (Hilbert or Hilda) meet with N in a Ferris Wheel cabin, while in the manga N makes White so uncomfortable, and showed not any concern as she fell from the Ferris Wheel. Once again, I have not read the PokéSpecial manga (I'm concerned with where I could find it, however it has been translated to English officially, but fans say the official translations of all the editions and volumes kind of sucks), but I've been around the fandom to hear about some of the horrible things that manga N has done.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Zygarde on September 01, 2013, 04:16:36 pm
I have this thing against song fics I don't know why I just do every time I see one I just wish there was a way to destroy them.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Patches on September 01, 2013, 04:32:31 pm
High School AU: A story where characters who are not canonically in high school (or even high school-aged) are written into a high school setting.  Sort of crosses with the "Shippers Ship" thread, since 95% of the time the reason to do this is to have romance drama... but in high school!  Characters typically bear no resemblance to their canon personalities aside from their names and physical appearances.

Sister Sues:  A new corollary to Rules 34 and 63 should be "If a character exists, someone has written a fic where they have a long-lost sister".  Said sister is usually younger, exactly like them but better at everything, and can get away with incessantly harassing said character with no repercussions.

Fix-It Fics: The author dislikes a development in the original material or how a certain situation is handled, so re-writes the offending scene in a way that pleases them.  I consider "alternate shipping" fics to be a subcategory of this.  These types can go either way, with most of the bad ones revolving around someone being upset that their favorite character died and just sloppily rewriting the scene so that the character simply doesn't die.

Fanon: Varies from property to property, but consists of information concerning characters or their world that is frequently taken as a given in many varieties of fan-work, but which has no basis in any official sources.  Can be as small as the propagation of fan-names for unnamed characters, to as large as entire assumed backstories.  Spreads via the bandwagon effect due to fans seeing the same fan name or theory crop up multiple times and assuming that since more than one person uses it, it must be true, and are too lazy to verify, so then they start using it, which adds to the bandwagon.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 01, 2013, 04:32:46 pm
I have this thing against song fics I don't know why I just do every time I see one I just wish there was a way to destroy them.

Me too. To me they always come across as being overly emotional and full of self importance.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 01, 2013, 05:00:52 pm
Fanon: Varies from property to property, but consists of information concerning characters or their world that is frequently taken as a given in many varieties of fan-work, but which has no basis in any official sources.  Can be as small as the propagation of fan-names for unnamed characters, to as large as entire assumed backstories.  Spreads via the bandwagon effect due to fans seeing the same fan name or theory crop up multiple times and assuming that since more than one person uses it, it must be true, and are too lazy to verify, so then they start using it, which adds to the bandwagon.

This one is especially annoying in the Pokémon fandom (read my last post on SSTDP) where the male and female Trainers are considered siblings, even "twins." I nearly abandoned a shipping until I found out this is not true.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 01, 2013, 06:48:04 pm
Fix-fics are sometimes amazing. For example, the Buffy fic "I Am What I Am" (http://parrot.moments-lost.org/earchive/viewstory.php?sid=3370&textsize=0&chapter=1), which is also yet another Halloween fic. Xander goes as himself, but older. After it ends, he still has all of old-Xander's memories. So he knows everything that is going to happen and starts using that to change it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: nickiknack on September 01, 2013, 08:08:22 pm
And then there's Christian fic, where the characters act like they've never heard of God before, but once they do, it's all they want! Writers of Christian fics are rather thin skinned so it's hard to find some of their works. here's a few titles:

How Can I Go On?: Sailor Moon fic. No transformations or talking cats. Serena is converted to Christianity by her new friends and is so happy she doesn't care that she's later raped and impregnated. It's all God's plan, after all! Includes a scene of Serena praying in front of a prom dress.

Harry Potter Turns to the Lord: Harry Potter goes flying on his broomstick, has an accident and is helped out by a Muggle. Muggle tells Harry all about Jesus and gives him a Bible to read. Harry thinks the Bible "makes sense" and snaps his wand in half, vowing never to do witchcraft again. No mention made of You-Know-Who

The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.

Not fics, but there is this person who does these various Star Wars characters convert to Jesus artwork on DA, and every time someone comments that they're being a bit too in your face with their religion, this person flips their shit.

As to what annoys me in fics, I like to call them Professor AU fics, where the said character is made a professor, and you're the student, and both of you are fucking. No real reason other than I've seen just way too many of them.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 01, 2013, 08:33:31 pm
And then there's Christian fic, where the characters act like they've never heard of God before, but once they do, it's all they want! Writers of Christian fics are rather thin skinned so it's hard to find some of their works. here's a few titles:

How Can I Go On?: Sailor Moon fic. No transformations or talking cats. Serena is converted to Christianity by her new friends and is so happy she doesn't care that she's later raped and impregnated. It's all God's plan, after all! Includes a scene of Serena praying in front of a prom dress.

Harry Potter Turns to the Lord: Harry Potter goes flying on his broomstick, has an accident and is helped out by a Muggle. Muggle tells Harry all about Jesus and gives him a Bible to read. Harry thinks the Bible "makes sense" and snaps his wand in half, vowing never to do witchcraft again. No mention made of You-Know-Who

The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.

These are in every fandom. I've seen an X-men fic where Beast, BEAST, spouts the reasons the bible is scientifically acurate.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 01, 2013, 08:54:33 pm
Another thing that annoys me is the issue with Mary Sues, specifically the growing attitude of "people need to stop using it because it's sexist/overused/unfair."  Is the term Mary Sue overused?  Absolutely.  Does it seem to unfairly target female characters at times?  Yes.  However, this seems to have caused a growing trend among fic writers and OC makers to downright dismiss it, as if to say that because Mary Sue is overused, it doesn't really exist at all so I can just ignore any and all criticisms if they happen to use that word.  Some also insist that if their character isn't in a relationship with a canon character or isn't a blatant self-insert, they can't be a Mary Sue.

I've also seen people argue that it's impossible for canon characters inside actual canon to be Mary Sues because "if it happens in the canon universe, then that's how it's supposed to be and is not considered warping."  I strongly disagree.  I know that doesn't apply to fics, but it's another argument against the Mary Sue term that I hate.  I'll get into actual Possession Sues (canon characters becoming Sues in fics) some other time.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 01, 2013, 09:01:03 pm
There was a Mary Sue calculator to try and help writers decide if their OC was a Mary Sue. It did note some people are really that awesome, though. Bono scores an 87 out of a 100 on that test, putting him firmly into Sue territory.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 01, 2013, 09:24:38 pm
There was a Mary Sue calculator to try and help writers decide if their OC was a Mary Sue. It did note some people are really that awesome, though. Bono scores an 87 out of a 100 on that test, putting him firmly into Sue territory.
The one test I found went well over 100, so it isn't that, and a real person one I found doesn't go to 100, so I'd love a link to the one you're talking about. Marilyn Manson, Till Lindemann and Trent Reznor are all Gary Stus according to the one I found for real people. Which, actually, seems about right.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 01, 2013, 09:35:39 pm
There was a Mary Sue calculator to try and help writers decide if their OC was a Mary Sue. It did note some people are really that awesome, though. Bono scores an 87 out of a 100 on that test, putting him firmly into Sue territory.

The Mary Sue litmus test is another thing people use to try and discredit the term.  The problem with the litmus test is that I don't think it takes into account the universe being used and the way the character is used and written.  To me, a fic Mary Sue is a character that affects it's chosen world in a way it shouldn't (this really doesn't apply to canon Sues, since that's more a problem of the universe itself rather than just the character).

I know that's probably not what you intended when you wrote this post, but I have seen people try to say the term is flawed because some random test on the internet said *insert popular character here* was a Sue.  I don't think it just comes down to specific traits; there has to be a context to those traits, which is why most people don't consider *popular character* a blatant Sue.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 01, 2013, 09:56:57 pm
There was a Mary Sue calculator to try and help writers decide if their OC was a Mary Sue. It did note some people are really that awesome, though. Bono scores an 87 out of a 100 on that test, putting him firmly into Sue territory.

The Mary Sue litmus test is another thing people use to try and discredit the term.  The problem with the litmus test is that I don't think it takes into account the universe being used and the way the character is used and written.  To me, a fic Mary Sue is a character that affects it's chosen world in a way it shouldn't (this really doesn't apply to canon Sues, since that's more a problem of the universe itself rather than just the character).

I know that's probably not what you intended when you wrote this post, but I have seen people try to say the term is flawed because some random test on the internet said *insert popular character here* was a Sue.  I don't think it just comes down to specific traits; there has to be a context to those traits, which is why most people don't consider *popular character* a blatant Sue.

Daryl Dixon of the Walking Dead proves your point beautifully. He's become a Gary Stu of the highest caliber.

Also, oddly, Carol from the same show. Her between season growth, and role as "Only woman Daryl gives two flying fucks about", has pushed her into Sue territory.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Patches on September 01, 2013, 10:49:53 pm
I generally don't define a Mary-Sue by an objective litmus test of qualities since what's considered a "Sue" can be very context-dependent.  Instead I define a Sue by how they rate on the following question:

"How closely does my actual opinion of this character align with how the author seems to want me to feel about this character?"

If my opinion of the character aligns with the story's:
> 75% of the time = great character
50%-75% of the time = good character
25%-50% of the time = okay character
< 25% of the time = bad character
0% of the time = Mary Sue

Note that this is only for when audience opinion of a character is less than what the story asks for.  When the audience opinion is greater than what the story asks for, it's an Ensemble Darkhorse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse).

In short: A Mary-Sue is the greatest possible distance between the author's opinion of a character and the audience's.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 02, 2013, 02:12:40 am
Before we get off the subject of Mary Sues, I'd like to mention Possession Sues.  These happen when a fic writer turns a canon character into a Sue.  It's insulting to the character and the canon work.  It can get especially bad if said canon character is a customizable character from a game, such as Commander Shepard, particularly when writers try to sidestep the issue by saying that since these characters differ between players, anything goes.

Which comes to a fic that had this down to a T.  In this fic, FemShep manages to get the best possible solution concerning the Reapers by a sequence so convoluted I couldn't understand it (it involved jumping between the choices and hacking code and bunch of stuff that left me confused), she becomes the liaison to the Reapers (not controlling them), educates Harbinger about organics, her body changes to take on turian traits (this is a Shakarian fic, btw), gains some type of (I'm assuming) high position with turian government, and has a bunch of turians and Harbinger wanting to screw her because she's just so awesome and badass even though they know she's with Garrus.  Come on, that itself is one of the most traditional traits of a Mary Sue!  But the worst part?  The writer has Shepard herself admit that she's a Sue!  And then defends themselves (the writer) by using Garrus as a mouthpiece to point out that hey, Shepard in canon is practically a Mary Sue already, so it's all good (so what if she only succeeded due to the help she had, it was still because of her leadership anything got done; this was actually one of his arguments)!

Look, Shepard is a video game character, and as such, will almost always come out on top simply because if they don't, the player can't advance.  Of course they'll appear to be an unstoppable badass devil/saint.  But even canon has its limits.  Renegades can have actions come back and bite them in the ass, paragons might be forced to concede to resolutions they don't want, and mixes can fail spot checks that result in undesired consequences.  This fic Shep seems way too . . . I don't even know how to put it.  If the things I mentioned don't seem too bad, it's much more obvious in the fic itself.

And on a final, major note, acknowledging that your character is a Mary Sue does not suddenly stop the Mary Sue from being an annoying Mary Sue.  It doesn't make it anymore acceptable just because you've pointed it out.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 02, 2013, 02:18:35 am
That sounds so bad it's perfect.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 02, 2013, 02:26:08 am
That sounds so bad it's perfect.

I didn't read the whole thing (not even sure it's done) because I only got to a certain point before I just went 'I'm done,' but after writing this, I'm hoping that this fic wasn't really serious and started going over the top on purpose.  I doubt it, though, because it came off as a serious shipping fic, at the very least the tone in the first chapters indicated it was meant be one.  And as for Garrus' characterization, he had a few irritating traits that are common in Shakarian fics, but that's probably for the shipping thread.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: niam2023 on September 02, 2013, 07:00:10 am
There was one really, really weird Legend of Korra and Marvel Universe fanfic that, among other strangeness, had Amon joining forces with The Hood, a demonic mafia boss. It also made a bunch of characters teenagers.

Also Korra marries a neurotic blond with The Angel of Death living in him.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Lady Evil on September 02, 2013, 02:52:10 pm
And then there's Christian fic, where the characters act like they've never heard of God before, but once they do, it's all they want! Writers of Christian fics are rather thin skinned so it's hard to find some of their works. here's a few titles:

How Can I Go On?: Sailor Moon fic. No transformations or talking cats. Serena is converted to Christianity by her new friends and is so happy she doesn't care that she's later raped and impregnated. It's all God's plan, after all! Includes a scene of Serena praying in front of a prom dress.

Harry Potter Turns to the Lord: Harry Potter goes flying on his broomstick, has an accident and is helped out by a Muggle. Muggle tells Harry all about Jesus and gives him a Bible to read. Harry thinks the Bible "makes sense" and snaps his wand in half, vowing never to do witchcraft again. No mention made of You-Know-Who

The Prayer Ponies: Charity Sue gets Twilight Sparkle to convert two minutes after meeting her. This causes Twilight to lose all her friends including her beloved mentor, but that's OK! Charity Sue and Jesus are the only friends she needs! Includes a BLAM where Fluttershy goes mountain climbing.

Not fics, but there is this person who does these various Star Wars characters convert to Jesus artwork on DA, and every time someone comments that they're being a bit too in your face with their religion, this person flips their shit.

As to what annoys me in fics, I like to call them Professor AU fics, where the said character is made a professor, and you're the student, and both of you are fucking. No real reason other than I've seen just way too many of them.

I had to look that up! Do you mean SonicClone? He could be CWC's long lost brother! Similar drawing style, same fandoms, same bad attitude....
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 02, 2013, 03:04:54 pm
Why are real people fics a thing?  These aren't fictional characters you're writing about; these are actual living people.  It's uncomfortable and awkward. 
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 02, 2013, 03:43:11 pm
Why are real people fics a thing?  These aren't fictional characters you're writing about; these are actual living people.  It's uncomfortable and awkward.
Because they don't all have sex tapes, or sometimes, those sex tapes suck. That said, I have read a few good ones, mainly when they capture peoples' personalities so perfectly that you suspect the actual people wrote it to troll fans.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Lady Evil on September 02, 2013, 05:32:06 pm
Well, there have been bands that had their own TV shows. (Monkees, Jackson 5, The Beatles, New Kids On The Block to name a few.) Some even have their own movies. Why not fan fic?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 02, 2013, 05:40:31 pm
I don't touch RPF with a ten-foot pole...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 02, 2013, 05:44:42 pm
Why are real people fics a thing?  These aren't fictional characters you're writing about; these are actual living people.  It's uncomfortable and awkward.

There are certain acceptable ones. People whose persona on tv is a caricature of who they really are are sort of free game. Like Shipping Colbert and Stewart from the Colbert Christmas Special is different from shipping the real guys.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 02, 2013, 07:38:12 pm
Why are real people fics a thing?  These aren't fictional characters you're writing about; these are actual living people.  It's uncomfortable and awkward.

There are certain acceptable ones. People whose persona on tv is a caricature of who they really are are sort of free game. Like Shipping Colbert and Stewart from the Colbert Christmas Special is different from shipping the real guys.

Yeah, I could just see that...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Søren on September 02, 2013, 07:45:04 pm
I discovered a whole heap fics with...weird...ships

On the family guy fanfiction section of a site, theres a fuckton of fics devoted to fucking Seth Mcfarlane
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 02, 2013, 07:47:10 pm
AO3? Because I haven't seen that many on FFN.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 02, 2013, 08:11:17 pm
I really hate to sound stupid, but what is an AO3? I tried looking up that term on Urban Dictionary and got nothing.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 02, 2013, 08:30:42 pm
Archive Of Our Own.

A. O to the power of 3.

Not the worst fan nickname for a site ever.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 02, 2013, 08:50:08 pm
I really hate to sound stupid, but what is an AO3? I tried looking up that term on Urban Dictionary and got nothing.

Archive Of Our Own.

A. O to the power of 3.

Not the worst fan nickname for a site ever.

In case you still don't know what Archive of Our Own is, it's a fanfiction site that's been growing in size and popularity, though still not as widespread as FF.net.  It's still technically in its beta stage, so you can't just sign up with it; you either have to enter your name on a waiting list, or have another author recommend you (I think). 
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 02, 2013, 09:40:26 pm
Ding ding ding. The waiting list for a non friend spot is something like six months to a year. Every accepted member gets something like 20 referrals they're allowed to hand out. It tends to keep the quality up.

You know, unless some sniveling brat gets a kindhearted soul to give them one.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 02, 2013, 09:55:50 pm
Ding ding ding. The waiting list for a non friend spot is something like six months to a year. Every accepted member gets something like 20 referrals they're allowed to hand out. It tends to keep the quality up.

You know, unless some sniveling brat gets a kindhearted soul to give them one.

Yeah, I was actually going to mention this.  It does seem to have higher quality fics, but my sister said she thinks the quality is starting to drop.  If that's true, one of my guesses would be that authors are starting to recommend their friends or authors they're friendly with, regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 02, 2013, 10:05:06 pm
Uh, I think the reason there are (or were) a lot of good images there was because of how small the selection was.

Like for instance, Pixiv was then known for having mostly superior quality artwork to deviantART, but that was because it used to had a mostly Japan-only userbase and there weren't a lot of people there to show some spoilage like back on deviantART (and it should also be noted that Pixiv allows pornography and their policies appear permissive on its content, while you'll get strikes, even banned on dA if you posted any pornographic images, or thanks to loopholes, hard porn).
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 02, 2013, 10:34:48 pm
There was a Mary Sue calculator to try and help writers decide if their OC was a Mary Sue. It did note some people are really that awesome, though. Bono scores an 87 out of a 100 on that test, putting him firmly into Sue territory.
The one test I found went well over 100, so it isn't that, and a real person one I found doesn't go to 100, so I'd love a link to the one you're talking about. Marilyn Manson, Till Lindemann and Trent Reznor are all Gary Stus according to the one I found for real people. Which, actually, seems about right.

I missed this, sorry. I saw the test roughly two years ago. If I can find it again I'll link you.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Meshakhad on September 03, 2013, 03:01:56 am
I don't touch RPF with a ten-foot pole...

I have an old idea for one. Sort of. It would feature Joss Whedon's characters taking revenge on him. Only to do that, they have to fight through the Mutant Enemy secret fortress filled with all the Whedon villains. In my own twisted way, it would actually be something of a tribute to the man.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on September 03, 2013, 04:41:16 am
What's RPF?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 03, 2013, 05:41:04 am
What's RPF?

Real Person Fic
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on September 03, 2013, 06:05:40 am
Ah yeah.  Duh.  Geez, I've been having a case of the stupids lately.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 07:58:49 pm
This is very NSFW but it is also genius (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5735704/1/No-Data-Available)

It's obviously not a true effort at proper fic. It's a parody but not of much of anything except other bad fics.

With that said, I normally really hate fics like that. But I'm also a fan of bad fanfic in its own right.

As for genres I dislike, mpreg, real life (celebs), and things that defy belief (such as an OC doing the same amazing shit as a canon character). Oddly, the last one is based on the fact I did that very same shit. So I think I have a right to complain.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Søren on September 04, 2013, 09:06:29 pm
This is very NSFW but it is also genius (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5735704/1/No-Data-Available)

It's obviously not a true effort at proper fic. It's a parody but not of much of anything except other bad fics.

With that said, I normally really hate fics like that. But I'm also a fan of bad fanfic in its own right.

As for genres I dislike, mpreg, real life (celebs), and things that defy belief (such as an OC doing the same amazing shit as a canon character). Oddly, the last one is based on the fact I did that very same shit. So I think I have a right to complain.

That fanfic made me so happy <3
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 04, 2013, 09:07:52 pm
Oddly, the last one is based on the fact I did that very same shit. So I think I have a right to complain.

This should be a rule with certain exceptions. "I used to do this and it's bad fic, let me make suggestions on how not to bad fic." But, if you wrote something and people let you know they hated it (mpreg is the example I've seen most often) so you start flaming other people for writing it you get a douchebag card.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 09:13:36 pm
This is very NSFW but it is also genius (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5735704/1/No-Data-Available)

It's obviously not a true effort at proper fic. It's a parody but not of much of anything except other bad fics.

With that said, I normally really hate fics like that. But I'm also a fan of bad fanfic in its own right.

As for genres I dislike, mpreg, real life (celebs), and things that defy belief (such as an OC doing the same amazing shit as a canon character). Oddly, the last one is based on the fact I did that very same shit. So I think I have a right to complain.

That fanfic made me so happy <3

I knew you'd find joy in it. You fucked up creature. :P

Oddly, the last one is based on the fact I did that very same shit. So I think I have a right to complain.

This should be a rule with certain exceptions. "I used to do this and it's bad fic, let me make suggestions on how not to bad fic." But, if you wrote something and people let you know they hated it (mpreg is the example I've seen most often) so you start flaming other people for writing it you get a douchebag card.

Oh trust me I tried to teach other people not to repeat my mistakes. It didn't work. :/
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 04, 2013, 09:39:01 pm
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing people make the same shit mistakes I made.

On topic, I'm pretty much fail at writing foe yay.  I tried it.  It was probably the worst thing to come from my fingers and I've been writing fanfics since I was 11.

At least it didn't take itself very seriously, which was my intent.

...The sad thing is?

It's currently my most popular and most loved work of art on any of my pages.  I hate people sometimes.

No I am not linking it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Igor on September 04, 2013, 09:45:16 pm
I'm just gonna leave this here... (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7465453/1/Obscurus-Lupa-Wins-The-Olympics) This may or may not be the greatest fanfiction in the history of ever.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 04, 2013, 09:55:14 pm
So does posting NSFW smutfics behind a NSFW link not violate the "no porn" rule?  Not being sarcastic, I just want to make sure.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 10:02:35 pm
You can link to nsfw so long as you don't make a habit of it and you properly tag it as being nsfw.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 04, 2013, 10:08:36 pm
You can link to nsfw so long as you don't make a habit of it and you properly tag it as being nsfw.

Well, in that case, I'll raise you this very NSFW Mass Effect parody fic (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9293561/1/The-Better-Species)  It pretty much takes the common elements in Shakarian fics and dials them up to eleven.  I found it absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 04, 2013, 11:57:34 pm
You can link to nsfw so long as you don't make a habit of it and you properly tag it as being nsfw.

Well, in that case, I'll raise you this very NSFW Mass Effect parody fic (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9293561/1/The-Better-Species)  It pretty much takes the common elements in Shakarian fics and dials them up to eleven.  I found it absolutely hilarious.
That was perfect.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 05, 2013, 12:31:57 am
As someone who actively dislikes Shakarian, that was great. Not as scarring as the one I found but lmfao.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 05, 2013, 02:31:35 am
As someone who actively dislikes Shakarian, that was great. Not as scarring as the one I found but lmfao.

As someone whose favorite romance is Shakarian but is tired of how it's plagued by the many fanon traits that crawled out of the ME kinkmeme (but that's for another thread), that was great.

To get off the shipping and back on topic; the woobification of villains.  Probably one of the worst fandom traits ever.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on September 05, 2013, 02:59:02 am
Oh trust me I tried to teach other people not to repeat my mistakes. It didn't work. :/

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing people make the same shit mistakes I made.

Guess you can't really learn from mistakes that somebody else made.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 05, 2013, 03:48:51 am
Oh trust me I tried to teach other people not to repeat my mistakes. It didn't work. :/

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing people make the same shit mistakes I made.

Guess you can't really learn from mistakes that somebody else made.

You can.  People just don't want to.

Or in my case they most likely weren't there to see me make the mistake, which is NO EXCUSE BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE PSYCHIC!
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Feral Dog on September 05, 2013, 06:40:14 am
the woobification of villains.

(http://media.tumblr.com/919fed17857ba00b7e5f40b2060c72c0/tumblr_inline_msnexavCpV1qz4rgp.gif)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 11:43:00 am
It doesn't help when the canon source woobiefies the villians. Take Walking Dead the GN vs the tv show. The Governor in the graphic novel is a raging psychopath. In the tv show he actually started out as a decent guy who just wanted the best for the people under his care.

Or Decepticons in Transformers G1 who did it for the evuls (Is Megatron huffing paint? I think Megatron is huffing paint). Versus the later comic versions and certain cartoons where they're understandable. They were pretty much slave castes and the original Autobots were corrupt politician.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 05, 2013, 12:57:02 pm
To get off the shipping and back on topic; the woobification of villains.  Probably one of the worst fandom traits ever.

As someone who casually dislikes N, I'm so, so with this post. Though like Brain Fritz's TV Walking Dead example with 'The Governor', the source game woobifies this character, while in the PokéSpecial manga he's an asshole who shows no concern for anyone around him.

Also, an inversion that pisses me off just as much; the demonization of otherwise non-malicious characters.

The Draco in Leather Pants trope takes an malicious, even abhorrent character character look like a bunch of "poor, hurt person" because the viewer loves that character so much, but Ron the Death Eater trope takes a non-malicious character and turns them into an asshole, even a Complete Monster because the viewer hates that character. In fact, I almost feel like necromancing the Pet Peeve Tropes thread just to update my list to add these, they piss me off so much.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 01:07:56 pm
Also, an inversion that pisses me off just as much; the demonization of otherwise non-malicious characters.

The Draco in Leather Pants trope takes an malicious, even abhorrent character character look like a bunch of "poor, hurt person" because the viewer loves that character so much, but Ron the Death Eater trope takes a non-malicious character and turns them into an asshole, even a Complete Monster because the viewer hates that character. In fact, I almost feel like necromancing the Pet Peeve Tropes thread just to update my list to add these, they piss me off so much.

This one can either royally piss me off or amuse the fuck out of me based on how it's being done up. There is a lot of TWD fic out there that makes Carol the evil, possessive bitch who is trying to keep Daryl from his true love Beth/Michonne/Mary Sue/Glenn/Whatever hot guy the yaoi fangirls are fapping to this week. The over the top ones just make me giggle.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Askold on September 05, 2013, 01:51:08 pm
Woobie villains aren't necessarily a bad thing. If written well a tragic villain can actually be a good addition to a story.

But if that was simply a complaint about fanfiction writers making fic where their favourite villain is turned into a woobie simply because they want to give them some sort of justifications for villainy or make them more likeable then it's just meh.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 05, 2013, 02:02:03 pm
Also, an inversion that pisses me off just as much; the demonization of otherwise non-malicious characters.

The Draco in Leather Pants trope takes an malicious, even abhorrent character character look like a bunch of "poor, hurt person" because the viewer loves that character so much, but Ron the Death Eater trope takes a non-malicious character and turns them into an asshole, even a Complete Monster because the viewer hates that character. In fact, I almost feel like necromancing the Pet Peeve Tropes thread just to update my list to add these, they piss me off so much.

This one can either royally piss me off or amuse the fuck out of me based on how it's being done up. There is a lot of TWD fic out there that makes Carol the evil, possessive bitch who is trying to keep Daryl from his true love Beth/Michonne/Mary Sue/Glenn/Whatever hot guy the yaoi fangirls are fapping to this week. The over the top ones just make me giggle.


I think Draco is just the right side of evil that it's not too unreasonable to have sympathetic portrayals of him, but good Lucius or good Voldermort just baffle me.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 05, 2013, 02:05:37 pm
Woobie villains aren't necessarily a bad thing. If written well a tragic villain can actually be a good addition to a story.

But if that was simply a complaint about fanfiction writers making fic where their favourite villain is turned into a woobie simply because they want to give them some sort of justifications for villainy or make them more likeable then it's just meh.

...My favorite villain is a villain because he's a selfish bastard who was spoiled as a brat and had every single whim catered to.

It's his redeeming factors (and his charm and his... looks) that make me like him.  Such as the fact that he cares about his kids, cares about his troops, and that his troops generally serve him out of adoration, not fear.

If you don't know who I'm talking about, look at my avatar.

People trying to woobie-fy him or passing off his kidnapping attempts as "playful flirting" piss me off, though.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: nickiknack on September 05, 2013, 03:06:10 pm
Woobie villains aren't necessarily a bad thing. If written well a tragic villain can actually be a good addition to a story.

But if that was simply a complaint about fanfiction writers making fic where their favourite villain is turned into a woobie simply because they want to give them some sort of justifications for villainy or make them more likeable then it's just meh.

^This
I love a good tragic villain (looks at her avatar), I think it gives them more depth and character, but as long as it's part the original work, and not just pulled out ones' ass in a fanfic.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 04:17:25 pm
I wish I could find a pic someone did that said something along the lines of "Loki was so busy trying to be Odin's favorite he didn't realize he was Thor's."
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 05, 2013, 04:42:50 pm
When I said 'woobification of villains,' I didn't mean "the industry is making too many sympathetic villains."  I meant when the fandom takes a villain, sympathetic backstory or no, and proceeds to gloss over or excuse their villainous behavior because 'it wasn't their fault' and 'they didn't know any better' and 'they just need someone to fix them.'  Draco In Leather Pants is a symptom of this.  Azula is a prime target for this, but one of the worst offenders I've seen is Loki (on tumblr, anyway).  That gif in Nicki's sig of Jane slapping Loki?  That scene garnered so much Jane hate and Jane bashing, with people saying that they wanted to see her die because how dare she slap their precious Loki.  Loki's story is sympathetic, but he's not some poor puppy-dog who was beaten and 'just needs to be loved.'  He did what he wanted to and, as far as I know, wasn't remorseful for it.  There's not some cuddly teddy bear yearning to break free.  Btw, I'm not accusing Nicki of doing any of this.

Severus Snape is another big offender, despite not actually being a villain.  Fangirls like to see him as some wonderful person who only joined the Death Eaters because Lily was a shallow bitch who wouldn't give poor Snape a chance and accept his apology, and that James Potter is a coward who never changed and would never love Lily like Snape did.  I've read a fic where the author used Regulus Black as a mouthpiece chewing out Lily for "abandoning Snape." 

They completely ignore the fact that Snape was alienating Lily because of his interest in the dark arts and him hanging out with Death Eaters, that Snape called Lily the wizard equivalent of the N word to save face in front of his "friends" when Lily tried to protect him, that she didn't accept his apology because he was only sorry since he thought "she was different" but still believed everyone like her was a 'mudblood,' that Lily married James when he stopped being a bully and actually changed and mellowed out, and that James stood up against an invincible foe, knowing he'd die, in order to protect his family.  Snape, on the other hand, was willingly working for Voldemort, was the one who gave Voldemort information about the prophecy, only felt remorse when Lily was targeted, and was willing to hand over her husband and infant son over to Voldemort in order to "protect" her.  Speaking of Harry, Snape treated him like shit because he happened to look like his father.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 04:47:27 pm
Starscream. If ever there was a fandom woobified villain it's Starscream.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 05, 2013, 05:08:22 pm
I'd like to point out that where people flock to Loki and call him a wee lamb, etc., my person I tend to defend is The Master. I don't woobify him. And he wasn't really woobified in canon. He was still a dick in his own right (sexist, racist, homophobic, the whole lot). But I can understand where he was coming from with most of the stuff he did (taking over the world and such).

I haven't really seen people try to woobify him. They have decided to do other things I disagree with, tho (but I won't get into that~).

There is a point where people defend just to make their obsession not look batshit insane. They defend the character to defend themselves, as it were, which is where it all goes wrong.

I won't defend my adoration of the Master like that. I know he's an ass and I know he's got very few redeeming qualities. Literally the last thing he did in his first New Doctor Who appearance was throw his death in the Doctor's face. I just think that people also don't remember the story of the Master, of the fact that he was twisted almost literally from birth.

Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on September 05, 2013, 11:10:36 pm
While it's often done haphazardly, there's something to be said about a well-done woobie.   
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: nickiknack on September 05, 2013, 11:49:24 pm
I wish I could find a pic someone did that said something along the lines of "Loki was so busy trying to be Odin's favorite he didn't realize he was Thor's."

Here you go:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5wj2bAQIr1rr5ii2o1_500.jpg)

I'll like to point out, I don't know many Jane haters, most the people I hang out like to ship them...lol. Or we're busy photoshopping the gif in that the tumblr logo is put over Jane's face, and we change the words "This is for New York" to "This is for our ovaries".
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 05, 2013, 11:51:31 pm
All wacky fanfiction threads are incomplete without Thirty H. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2554200/1/HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 06, 2013, 12:06:19 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/eba7c563a7c00f0b3e47c11392f29888/tumblr_mshnxrBgFz1qzeo2zo1_500.png)

Edit: WTFFanfiction tumblr (http://wtffanfiction.com/) (Possibly NSFW, depends on what's quoted)

Hey Booker, the fic you posted was quoted here!
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 06, 2013, 12:23:40 am
It was indeed! It's where I get a lot of my wtf fanfic moments.

I didn't find the actual fic itself tho, a friend did after we both finished screaming over the excerpt. I'm sure if WTF fanfiction had had the room the whole fic would've made it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Askold on September 06, 2013, 12:32:12 am
That wtffanfiction site hurts my eyes. Many of the pictures use font colour and backgrounds that make the text unreadable.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 06, 2013, 12:42:31 am
That wtffanfiction site hurts my eyes. Many of the pictures use font colour and backgrounds that make the text unreadable.

The quote is also written directly beneath the entry, as well as the fandom it's from.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Askold on September 06, 2013, 01:00:51 am
That wtffanfiction site hurts my eyes. Many of the pictures use font colour and backgrounds that make the text unreadable.

The quote is also written directly beneath the entry, as well as the fandom it's from.

I know, but why bother making the picture if it's going to be unreadable. At least those with a solid background can be read but the one's with a random picture and TEAL text or whatever just give me a headache.

Not that the actual context would be any better. (Those are all jokes and parodies, right?)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 06, 2013, 01:07:28 am
Not all of them, no. Most are legit. Also the colors don't bother me. They used to be worse. They've gotten better with the color combos.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 06, 2013, 02:21:25 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lubfqgOaWp1qmzl7to1_500.png)

The best I've read so far.

(For the curious, this is the Adventure Time fandom, and that is Finn crying out for his virginity, despite no boy his age in real life would say something like this, and this is why this quote is so ridiculous.)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Feral Dog on September 06, 2013, 02:33:41 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lubfqgOaWp1qmzl7to1_500.png)

The best I've read so far.

(For the curious, this is the Adventure Time fandom, and that is Finn crying out for his virginity, despite no boy his age in real life would say something like this, and this is why this quote is so ridiculous.)

I can't find it anymore, but there was one where Finn was calculating the angle of his morning wood and it veered off into some bizarre mix of sexual daydreaming, reminiscing, angst, and metaphysics.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 06, 2013, 02:59:41 am
Feral Dog, I'm glad you replied, because I was going to make a double post, just so I can talk about how wrong I was to misconstrue the Draco in Leather Pants trope, and to post a long post, which I might regret posting later. I still feel like it's better than saying nothing, but fuck, I hate having unpopular opinions on characters.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Zygarde on September 06, 2013, 03:18:35 am
So I have a real huge dislike of fics that use characters that are married and make them cheat on their spouse. (This mostly stems from me browsing a lot of Pokemon fanfics and finding Aloe (Lenora) always paired with someone other than her cannon husband.)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Patches on September 06, 2013, 07:02:10 am
So I have a real huge dislike of fics that use characters that are married and make them cheat on their spouse. (This mostly stems from me browsing a lot of Pokemon fanfics and finding Aloe (Lenora) always paired with someone other than her cannon husband.)

The corollary to that is if you're going to set someone up with a non-canon love-interest, it is absolutely necessary to turn their canon love-interest into the biggest douchebag imaginable so that the infidelity is easily justified.  Or just kill them off.

Case in point:  In the Inuyasha fandom, the non-canon (and blindingly non-sensical) pairing of Sesshoumaru/Kagome is nearly as popular as the canon pairing of Inuyasha/Kagome.  And I'd wager that 90% of those fics follow the format of "Inuyasha abandons Kagome for Kikyou, so Kagome runs away and gets found by a completely OOC Sesshoumaru who instantly has mind-blowing sex with her".
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 06, 2013, 10:44:43 am
Edit: WTFFanfiction tumblr (http://wtffanfiction.com/) (Possibly NSFW, depends on what's quoted)

Hey Booker, the fic you posted was quoted here!

I looked at the Transformers tag. I don't know if I should tell a writer I know that she was quoted there.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 06, 2013, 03:54:55 pm
So I have a real huge dislike of fics that use characters that are married and make them cheat on their spouse. (This mostly stems from me browsing a lot of Pokemon fanfics and finding Aloe (Lenora) always paired with someone other than her cannon husband.)

The corollary to that is if you're going to set someone up with a non-canon love-interest, it is absolutely necessary to turn their canon love-interest into the biggest douchebag imaginable so that the infidelity is easily justified.  Or just kill them off.

Case in point:  In the Inuyasha fandom, the non-canon (and blindingly non-sensical) pairing of Sesshoumaru/Kagome is nearly as popular as the canon pairing of Inuyasha/Kagome.  And I'd wager that 90% of those fics follow the format of "Inuyasha abandons Kagome for Kikyou, so Kagome runs away and gets found by a completely OOC Sesshoumaru who instantly has mind-blowing sex with her".

Once again, I've previously mentioned my annoyance with FerrisWheelShippers and their annoyance with the Black and White arc of the PokéSpecial manga focusing on the manga's equivalent to the ChessShipping instead, even making Black/White (Hilbert/Hilda) a canon shipping. I've already talked about one fan fic where Black (Hilbert) is killed and the grieving White (Hilda) goes off with N because her previous boyfriend is dead. And once again, the Manga N almost got her killed.

Or in a similar vein and also relating to the comic/manga vs. the game(s), the Archie Sonic comics focusing on Sonic/Sally instead of Sonic/Amy (Amy didn't appear in the comics until many, many issues later, and she was just a friend of Sonic throughout the entirety of all the comics I've heard of). Oh, and the less we talk about Sonic/Mina vs. Sonic/Sally, the better. I'm not sure how big the shitstorm was in comparison to Sonic/Amy vs. Sonic/Sally, but I just don't want to talk about it anyway.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 11, 2013, 10:43:13 pm
Someone on my tumblr stream is talking about how you can tell if someone has been into fanfiction for a long time. One of the signs was that they remember when smut fic was called lemons.

No idea why people used that term, but I remember it well.

Another one was when rape warnings were clearly called rape, not non-con.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on September 11, 2013, 10:51:02 pm
I remember when smutfics were called lemons!  Wow... that takes me back...  I still call them that sometimes.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 11, 2013, 10:59:58 pm
Someone on my tumblr stream is talking about how you can tell if someone has been into fanfiction for a long time. One of the signs was that they remember when smut fic was called lemons.

No idea why people used that term, but I remember it well.

Another one was when rape warnings were clearly called rape, not non-con.

Lemon, lime.

There was also orange and grapefruit.

Also PWP (which for some reason could mean either plot what plot or porn with plot which gets to be very confusing)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on September 11, 2013, 11:02:21 pm
Someone on my tumblr stream is talking about how you can tell if someone has been into fanfiction for a long time. One of the signs was that they remember when smut fic was called lemons.

No idea why people used that term, but I remember it well.

The reason why they're called lemons is because it got its name from the proposed western name for hentai. Of course, we all know that hentai is sexually explicit anime and manga, and I really don't need to say this because I'm sure everyone here knows this or had seen this sort of stuff before.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 11, 2013, 11:02:53 pm

Also PWP (which for some reason could mean either plot what plot or porn with plot which gets to be very confusing)

I always loved authors who would put PWP and then have to put which it was in () because so many people used it interchangeably.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 12, 2013, 01:41:27 am
I remember when smutfics were called lemons!  Wow... that takes me back...  I still call them that sometimes.

S.... so do I.  Whoa.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 12, 2013, 05:06:27 am
I started reading fanfic after people stopped using those terms, so i've always been confused by the whole lemon, limes thing.
 
At first I thought it was some bizarre sexual fetish (possibly something to do with lemonparty) and avoided those fics like the plague.

Even now I still get the fruits mixed up and have to look them up whenever I come across them.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 12, 2013, 11:45:15 am
I remember when smutfics were called lemons!  Wow... that takes me back...  I still call them that sometimes.

S.... so do I.  Whoa.

Oh yeah, me too.  The running joke among several authors I'm acquainted with to this day is "this work contains citrus.  Just letting you know now."

For the Oath of Swords geeks, the joke is "This chapter has been coated in Mindanwe juice.  Proceed at your own peril."
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Meshakhad on September 12, 2013, 05:27:11 pm
I've heard of fics that were "porn with plot" being called limes.

I also recall (and could probably find) a really good erotic fantasy series that actually had excellent plot to go with its excellent porn.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 12, 2013, 07:50:16 pm
I've heard of fics that were "porn with plot" being called limes.

I also recall (and could probably find) a really good erotic fantasy series that actually had excellent plot to go with its excellent porn.

Eh, limes were more 'heavy petting with fade to black'

lemons, on the other claw, were downright explicit.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 12, 2013, 08:45:57 pm
I've heard of fics that were "porn with plot" being called limes.

I also recall (and could probably find) a really good erotic fantasy series that actually had excellent plot to go with its excellent porn.

Eh, limes were more 'heavy petting with fade to black'

lemons, on the other claw, were downright explicit.

Yeah, that's what I always assumed 'limes' were.  I also remember lemons.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 12, 2013, 09:33:52 pm
I just saw this thread and haven't read it but after reading through some of the sporking of 50 Shades, I just want to add to the thread, 50 Twilight-wanking-fanfic Shades of abusive relationship Grey. Luna fucking damn, I'm not trying to brag but I know I could write a better erotic fanfic while half asleep. Also, even though its slightly changed, the Twilight shittyness shines through like a damn sun.

How such a shitty wank-fest of a fanfic got published as a novel is beyond comprehension. How its so successful even more so.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 13, 2013, 08:58:14 am
I wrote better smut like a couple weeks ago. lmfao
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on September 13, 2013, 11:30:19 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7s70djStr1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)

Surprise!
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 13, 2013, 11:44:05 pm
I had just scrubbed the vision from my mind. Thanks. I take my love back.

I'm kidding
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 27, 2013, 12:03:27 am
Behold, Hitler x Jesus shipping. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6130321/1/Jesus_and_Hitler_A_Romance)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: nickiknack on September 27, 2013, 12:08:50 am
Behold, Hitler x Jesus shipping. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6130321/1/Jesus_and_Hitler_A_Romance)

Is it wrong that I think I saw this one quoted on wtffanfiction a couple of weeks ago??
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Vypernight on September 27, 2013, 03:35:25 pm
My biggest WTF fanfiction moment right now is that my friend's Austin and Ally ff got over 50 comments (and it is PG rated, BTW), while my Pirates of the Caribbean ff barely got a dozen comments.  Now I realize my story is long (it's over 20 chapters and 100+ pages), but everyone who's read the entire thing has told me it's too short!
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 27, 2013, 04:11:20 pm
It really has a lot to do with pairing, tropes used, fandoms, and how many Big Name Fans there are in your fandom.

There are very few writers in the Transformers fandom who can pull off ten reviews a chapter. You pretty much need to be The Spoon Of Doom to pull that off. Where as ten reviews a chapter is not uncommon at all for a Walking Dead fic, especially for popular-ish pairings like Daryl/Carol, Daryl/Glenn. Using the popular headcanon of a fandom gets you farther than being original. Sad, but true.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 27, 2013, 05:19:06 pm
It can also have something with what you're tackling. At the moment I'm writing a slightly canon-divergent Mass Effect Shenko pairing. Reason people probably aren't reading it? The Shepard's a high-functioning autistic.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on September 27, 2013, 05:21:18 pm
I hate it when people changes characters names, especially when someone finds out they were adopted and the second they learn their original name they just instantly change to having a completely different name.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 27, 2013, 06:25:47 pm
It can also have something with what you're tackling. At the moment I'm writing a slightly canon-divergent Mass Effect Shenko pairing. Reason people probably aren't reading it? The Shepard's a high-functioning autistic.

Are you on FFN? Because that shows you how many people have read it, as well as review count. Sometimes that can be a deterrent to the next chapter though. "X amount of you read this chapter and only Y reviewed? Bastards."

Which also varies fandom to fandom. Younger aimed fandoms (Disney anything especially" tend to get more reviews, if only because the reviewers will leave useless "OMG!!1!! So cool!" reviews.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 27, 2013, 06:32:34 pm
It can also have something with what you're tackling. At the moment I'm writing a slightly canon-divergent Mass Effect Shenko pairing. Reason people probably aren't reading it? The Shepard's a high-functioning autistic.

Are you on FFN? Because that shows you how many people have read it, as well as review count. Sometimes that can be a deterrent to the next chapter though. "X amount of you read this chapter and only Y reviewed? Bastards."

Which also varies fandom to fandom. Younger aimed fandoms (Disney anything especially" tend to get more reviews, if only because the reviewers will leave useless "OMG!!1!! So cool!" reviews.

I'm at AO3 for this one because it's also going to be rather smutty. Shenko, a bit of Sheng (Shepard/Kai Leng)... People may be turned off by the fact my head-canon Shep is also Australian.

Name of the series? 'The Autistic's Guide to Saving the Galaxy'.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Vypernight on September 27, 2013, 06:41:28 pm
It really has a lot to do with pairing, tropes used, fandoms, and how many Big Name Fans there are in your fandom.

There are very few writers in the Transformers fandom who can pull off ten reviews a chapter. You pretty much need to be The Spoon Of Doom to pull that off. Where as ten reviews a chapter is not uncommon at all for a Walking Dead fic, especially for popular-ish pairings like Daryl/Carol, Daryl/Glenn. Using the popular headcanon of a fandom gets you farther than being original. Sad, but true.

Well one thing that my friend warned me might have turned people off is that it's mostly new people, with a few people from the Pirates movies making cameos.  I made it a POTC story because it takes place in the universe (between the second and third movies).
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 27, 2013, 06:48:37 pm
@ Vypernight

That'll do it. Too many people got burned on Mary Sues, so now they associate all OCs as Sues.

One notable exception was "Tales of the common people" in the X-men fandom. Multiple writers jumped on the idea of writing stories about what life was like for the every day mutant. I can not, for the love of me, remember the name, but there was one where the girl's father was kind of middle of the road in government so he was able to buy her the technology to hide her blue skin. It was ironically shaped like a cross to help fool the people at her church.

@Morgenleoht

I hate to say it, but it's the name. Anything that comes off as even remotely preachy, even when it's not intended to at all, scares off average readers. The exception would be in fandoms that have a canon character with autism spectrum disorders. You could actually use that title in a Community fic featuring Abed and no one would blink.

In both of these cases, I think it's their hang ups. Write what you guys enjoy and don't worry about people too hung up on stereotypes to appreciate your work.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 27, 2013, 06:53:18 pm
@Morgenleoht

I hate to say it, but it's the name. Anything that comes off as even remotely preachy, even when it's not intended to at all, scares off average readers. The exception would be in fandoms that have a canon character with autism spectrum disorders. You could actually use that title in a Community fic featuring Abed and no one would blink.

In both of these cases, I think it's their hang ups. Write what you guys enjoy and don't worry about people too hung up on stereotypes to appreciate your work.

No doubt. My Regan Shepard is what happens when I think the neutral option in Mass Effect should have been a Sarcastic/Charming choice like in Dragon Age 2, mostly because she's a snarky, barely competent biotic.

I write for myself, though the feedback is nice. I also tend to specialise in AU fanfics, mostly because once you've seen one Cousland/Alistair or Shenko playthrough fanfic, you've read them all.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 27, 2013, 09:43:12 pm
It can also have something with what you're tackling. At the moment I'm writing a slightly canon-divergent Mass Effect Shenko pairing. Reason people probably aren't reading it? The Shepard's a high-functioning autistic.

There's a fic where the Shepard is a MtF transsexual.  Forgot what the name of it was, though.  And as long as we're getting into out-there fic subjects, I've seen two Mass Effect fics that were about abortion.  One I thought was actually well-written and respectful to the subject matter, the other . . . not so much.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 27, 2013, 10:50:11 pm
This is slash fic of Napoleon and Squealer from Animal Farm. (http://sociallyunacceptableart3.tumblr.com/post/62436261657/did-somebody-say-fanfiction-friday-i-am-sorry)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 28, 2013, 12:26:41 am
It can also have something with what you're tackling. At the moment I'm writing a slightly canon-divergent Mass Effect Shenko pairing. Reason people probably aren't reading it? The Shepard's a high-functioning autistic.

There's a fic where the Shepard is a MtF transsexual.  Forgot what the name of it was, though.  And as long as we're getting into out-there fic subjects, I've seen two Mass Effect fics that were about abortion.  One I thought was actually well-written and respectful to the subject matter, the other . . . not so much.

There's a decent modern AU Dragon Age 2 fanfic about an FtM Hawke called 'My Heart is Big'. It's m!Hawke/Fenris.

My first Dragon Age fanfic was a Coulistair playthrough fic called 'The Dutiful Daughter'; I'd played Mara as an Aspie, so I wrote it up with her as the main PC.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 28, 2013, 07:37:54 am
You will find more fics where the female character is futa than you will them being pre-op MtF.

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Especially considering it is very common in the Mass Effect fandom for femshep to be futa. Whether on her own (idk how else to describe it, my apologies) or because Miranda Lawson had a kink for it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 28, 2013, 12:00:33 pm
You will find more fics where the female character is futa than you will them being pre-op MtF.

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Especially considering it is very common in the Mass Effect fandom for femshep to be futa. Whether on her own (idk how else to describe it, my apologies) or because Miranda Lawson had a kink for it.

I came across one of those fics yesterday...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 28, 2013, 04:55:48 pm
0/10 would not recommend them. But that's me.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 28, 2013, 05:35:16 pm
Trust me, I regretted reading it...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on September 28, 2013, 06:34:01 pm
You will find more fics where the female character is futa than you will them being pre-op MtF.

I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Especially considering it is very common in the Mass Effect fandom for femshep to be futa. Whether on her own (idk how else to describe it, my apologies) or because Miranda Lawson had a kink for it.

I came across one of those fics yesterday...

After finding the fic again I can definitely say that it's not a futa Shepard, it's a post-op MtF Shepard.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: wrightway on September 28, 2013, 06:37:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/917b86393a440998cd6b9e1ffe89c8e6/tumblr_mtupubanlh1ql2x2yo1_500.jpg)

I find it horribly amusing when the actors of a show or film admit to reading the fanfiction tied to it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Meshakhad on October 02, 2013, 04:05:48 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/917b86393a440998cd6b9e1ffe89c8e6/tumblr_mtupubanlh1ql2x2yo1_500.jpg)

I find it horribly amusing when the actors of a show or film admit to reading the fanfiction tied to it.

I remember reading about what happened when Eli Roth discovered the Inglorious Basterds kinkmeme. His comment was "The Bear Jew always tops."
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 13, 2013, 01:49:05 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/43d3ca8c692bef0fdf598cec4aaecf67/tumblr_inline_mpnga64ah51qz4rgp.png)

I want to go back to the point where I hadn't read that.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 13, 2013, 02:29:19 am
...Hm...

Nope, sorry, don't have a reaction.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 13, 2013, 06:34:38 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/43d3ca8c692bef0fdf598cec4aaecf67/tumblr_inline_mpnga64ah51qz4rgp.png)

I want to go back to the point where I hadn't read that.

Patrick is a star fish, so he couldn't really stroke someones face in the same way a human hand could.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on October 14, 2013, 01:40:52 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/43d3ca8c692bef0fdf598cec4aaecf67/tumblr_inline_mpnga64ah51qz4rgp.png)

I want to go back to the point where I hadn't read that.

Patrick is a star fish, so he couldn't really stroke someones face in the same way a human hand could.

This seems appropriate:
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdinf8SpzB1qksov3.gif)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 14, 2013, 08:03:17 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/43d3ca8c692bef0fdf598cec4aaecf67/tumblr_inline_mpnga64ah51qz4rgp.png)

I want to go back to the point where I hadn't read that.

Patrick is a star fish, so he couldn't really stroke someones face in the same way a human hand could.

This seems appropriate:
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdinf8SpzB1qksov3.gif)

That octopus would make a great face stroker!
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: I am lizard on October 20, 2013, 07:32:40 pm
I think the worst fanfic is probably "The Conversion Bureau" it presents the most skewered sense of morality I have ever seen; The kwind an gwenerowus ponies who force the humans to convert are "good" and the humans who try to defend themselves are somehow "bad".
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on October 21, 2013, 03:25:53 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/29f24e07930cec1702f3b4346ec7df57/tumblr_mgm1shepmC1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5e426f3f89f96aa98977d0d434b7d39b/tumblr_mo7dcyheJD1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)

100% done.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Feral Dog on October 21, 2013, 04:12:11 am
Oh god, do they have a link for that second one? I kind of want to read it...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: largeham on October 21, 2013, 04:34:47 am
Has anyone posted that one about the Giant Squid and Hogwarts Castle?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on October 21, 2013, 04:37:28 am
Oh god, do they have a link for that second one? I kind of want to read it...

I tired searching for it, but couldn't find anything.

I did, however, find the Bella Wolverine story: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6265266/1/Bella-Eclipse-Wolverine

Quote
My name is Isabella Swan Wolverine.
Eclipse is my code name

Quote
My dad has claws that are made of adamantium(covers his skeleton).
My mom could convince anyone anything as long as she touches them.
I have both powers and can move things with my mind.
Like my father I got my skeleton covered in adamantium.
A month after my 17th birthday my mom came and found me
she said that she wanted to take me some where special
and I made the mistake of hugging so she convinced me
to trust Stryker the man who made my father a peace of the metal.
The professor (I'm to lazy to explain his power google it)
saw this and sent my dad,Storm,Scott ,and Jean

Quote
"Have you ever been in Texas?"
"I was born there, Bub."
"Then why do you sound so Canadian?"
"Because my father is Canadian. And I lived in Europe for the majority of my life so mixing that in with the fact that English was never easy for me, talking without an accent ain't easy."

Edit: Christ, you don't even need to read the stories in the FF.net crossovers section. The descriptions and index pages are hilarious on their own (spoilered for size):

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 21, 2013, 06:22:42 am
That Dr. Cullen thing has 160+ favs. Whereas my mass effect post-destroy fanfic has about 20.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 21, 2013, 07:29:38 am
That Dr. Cullen thing has 160+ favs. Whereas my mass effect post-destroy fanfic has about 20.

Same way cheap potato chips sell more than filet mignon
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 21, 2013, 07:44:41 am
Well when ya put it that way... lol

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a974a803ef572b2472b6d453d9e923d/tumblr_muy12ymsjK1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)

I...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: I am lizard on October 21, 2013, 07:35:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b8bb08e62b8a435e41c4ba100a794063/tumblr_mpy2rm3jXz1r90ydxo1_500.png)
NSFW
(click to show/hide)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/251db66d45f86dd21082b6e83290308b/tumblr_mhuc8lZWJs1r90ydxo1_r1_500.png)
(http://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/8/2/64688__safe_trixie_text_best+pony_wtf+pony+fanfiction_bamf.png)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/315/734/2a6.jpg)
Kinda SFW
(click to show/hide)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64youUZxG1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)
(If this one isn't a fanfic already it should be)
Silly and NSFW
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 21, 2013, 10:16:26 pm
Hilariously? A few pony pre-readers I work with help RUN that tumblr.


... and they keep contributing.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 22, 2013, 03:56:23 am
Yeah the Orbital Friendship Cannon one feels firmly tongue in cheek.  And I love it.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 22, 2013, 05:31:39 am
The masturbating and crying one reminds me of Peep Show.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Søren on October 22, 2013, 06:54:18 am
Inner goddess turn into its full beauty...

...oh god thats a fifty shades of grey reference
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on October 22, 2013, 07:04:46 am
Obvious crackfics, but too amusing not to share:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4677ddeee9d3e6213c15f09b338efe20/tumblr_mkaro4j0fu1qmzl7to1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/53bc275b6d430d14e541e957bd8b0d5a/tumblr_mti24fvUIP1qmzl7to1_500.png)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 22, 2013, 05:31:12 pm
I am so glad that I wasn't drinking a beverage, because that last pic would have ruined this computer.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Morgenleoht on October 23, 2013, 07:40:43 am
Oh gawd, my eyes...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: I am lizard on October 27, 2013, 02:36:04 pm
Say, what fanfics would we say are THE worst?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 27, 2013, 03:39:09 pm
Uh...

Probably "My Immortal" but that's the worst one I've read.  I don't actually read that many fanfics - I prefer writing them.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Zygarde on October 27, 2013, 04:34:48 pm
I think the best badly written fanfic is Half Life: Full Life Consequences since one of it's sequels has the best lines ever written "I have to kill fast and bullets too slow."
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Søren on October 27, 2013, 07:01:47 pm
Say, what fanfics would we say are THE worst?

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5883627/1/
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on October 27, 2013, 07:06:08 pm
Oh Marg, my sperm donut Marg, I love you.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 27, 2013, 07:10:32 pm
My favourite part was Marge's vagina getting hard. Like they do.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on October 29, 2013, 07:18:28 pm
Say, what fanfics would we say are THE worst?

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5883627/1/

I'm pretty sure that belongs under "best".
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Alehksunos on October 29, 2013, 09:09:21 pm
You guys want more?

I think you guys ought to gaze at this beautiful abomination of a fic. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5648476) Or anything written by Comics Nix (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2194474/ComicsNix)

(Both links are NSFW, more specifically, the second link contains NSFW content.)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Random Gal on October 30, 2013, 01:51:10 am
You guys want more?

I think you guys ought to gaze at this beautiful abomination of a fic. (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5648476) Or anything written by Comics Nix (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2194474/ComicsNix)

(Both links are NSFW, more specifically, the second link contains NSFW content.)

*clicks second link*

Quote from: Comics Nix
Hermione recieves a box containing all the information about her past. She discovers she descends from the mecha wolves tribe, and must fight against the wizard fascist domination over the magical world. Adventure, Romance, Tragedy, and a lot of snuff!

WHAT.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 30, 2013, 06:14:59 am
Snuff? Is that another fanfic term? Or are they referring to either the tobaccoish stuff that people used to inhale or films that have real murders in them?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 30, 2013, 06:20:57 am
Snuff? Is that another fanfic term? Or are they referring to either the tobaccoish stuff that people used to inhale or films that have real murders in them?

Snuff refers to killing (as in, snuffing out a flame, only the flame is a person).
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on October 30, 2013, 06:24:47 am
Snuff? Is that another fanfic term? Or are they referring to either the tobaccoish stuff that people used to inhale or films that have real murders in them?

Snuff refers to killing (as in, snuffing out a flame, only the flame is a person).

Ok, thanx.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on December 17, 2013, 05:50:34 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3c127228185649145dcca19180b3f7a9/tumblr_mxwy69iiqZ1qmzl7to1_500.png)

Apparently this is a NCIS fanfic?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Witchyjoshy on December 17, 2013, 06:05:59 am
I must admit that's not what I thought would happen when I read the words "shed their clothes."

I've seen weirder alterations to source material.

...Fuck I've probably written weirder alterations, I just don't remember.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Cerim Treascair on December 17, 2013, 10:40:12 pm
I must admit that's not what I thought would happen when I read the words "shed their clothes."

I've seen weirder alterations to source material.

...Fuck I've probably written weirder alterations, I just don't remember.

Ditto.  Oh, my time in the furry fandom...

That being said, I'll be surprised if Palmer doesn't turn out to be a Pomeranian.  *giggles and runs away*
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on December 17, 2013, 11:33:18 pm
Abby would make an awesome Goth poodle, or maybe a slinky black cat.   Ducky?  Well... A mallard duck.  What else would he be, eh?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on December 26, 2013, 03:03:20 am
Cracked did an article on fucked up Christmas-themed fanfics (http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-craziest-pieces-christmas-fan-fiction/). Of course, most of them involve horrifying porn, so be warned.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Ghoti on December 31, 2013, 12:54:58 am
As my contribution to this lovely thread, allow me to share the strangest genuinely arousing fanfic I've ever encountered: Strange Bedfellows (https://m.fanfiction.net/s/5764616/1/)
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 31, 2013, 03:26:25 pm
Say, what fanfics would we say are THE worst?

Well that's somewhat subjective...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Cerim Treascair on December 31, 2013, 04:15:10 pm
Say, what fanfics would we say are THE worst?

Well that's somewhat subjective...

There are some folks that consider 'My Immortal' to be high literature... which I find worrisome.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: SpaceProg on December 31, 2013, 04:59:42 pm
"My Immortal" isn't really a badfic though.  It's an intentional trollfic.  Wasn't that what was discovered and became the general consensus?

Now... "50 Shades of Grey", on the other hand...
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Meshakhad on February 04, 2014, 12:52:28 pm
"My Immortal" isn't really a badfic though.  It's an intentional trollfic.  Wasn't that what was discovered and became the general consensus?

Now... "50 Shades of Grey", on the other hand...

It's highly debated whether My Immortal is intentionally bad or not. I've heard one theory that suggested Daniel Radcliffe (who has admitted writing Harry Potter fanfic) was the real author.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 04, 2014, 12:54:06 pm
Depends.  Are we talking bad as in laughable, bad as in boring, or bad as in rage-inducing?
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Flying Mint Bunny! on February 04, 2014, 04:57:13 pm
My Immortal was genius.

"What the hell do you think you're doing motherfuckers!"
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: Zygarde on February 04, 2014, 05:13:16 pm
My standing theory is that J.K Rowling wrote My Immortal to troll the really stupid fans.
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: tempus on February 04, 2014, 06:18:21 pm
These aren't actually badfics, per se--but as ever, your mileage may vary, and besides, I didn't see another topic here to post these, so here we go.  Hopefully they're not horribly off-topic.  Crossover fanfic is sort of a guilty pleasure of mine.  Emphasis on "guilty."

Someone rehabilitated Challenge of the Superfriends (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4602078/1/Challenge-of-the-Superfriends-The-End) and turned it into a nightmarishly awesome story with just a hint of Event Horizon in its DNA.  It's ongoing with a sequel in the works. 

Here's a Smallville/Star Wars mashup (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3548783/1/Legacy-of-the-Red-Sun-The-Complete-Trilogy)--what if Kal-El's escape ship went very slightly astray, and came down on a desert planet in a galaxy far, far away instead of Earth following the accidental death of a very young Luke Skywalker?  It has a sequel.

The same author as above also has another (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3512724/1/Gods-of-Dark-and-Light)--what if the Ori descended en masse to convert the Star Wars galaxy? 
Title: Re: Fanfiction Is the Darndest Thing
Post by: TheUnknown on May 14, 2014, 08:40:16 pm
*Rise from your grave!*

This is a long one, guys, so brace yourselves.

You know what I hate in fics?  When people become incapable of saying 'no'.  And I don't mean 'they're stupid and horrible for having sex'.  I'm talking about the common, stupid cliche in fics where, when a person becomes even slightly attracted to another person, they suddenly have all rational thought and control sucked out of them and become physically incapable of saying "no" and standing up to that person, even if they outright say (or think to themselves) that they don't want to be involved with the other person.  They become slaves to their crotches without any or very little resistance.  Yeah, I know the urge for sex can become overpowering (which leads to a lot of 'oopsies' in real life), but I'd think that usually happens after some serious making out or heavy petting, not the instant you become even slightly aroused.  Seriously, you can be aroused to a point and still have your wits about you; yeah, it's strong, but so is "they're attractive but I really don't want to do this right now".  This is especially grating for me when it comes to "strong, empowered female characters", and especially if it's from a universe where I know woman can easily rebuff the advances.  But nope, it's always "oh noes, my loins are awake, can't say 'no' no matter how much I really, really want to!  Must fuck and then regret it later because I know I don't really want this and I have no willpower to say so because the hottness.  Drama!"

I'm all for sexual freedom and empowerment, but this isn't it; this is being a weak-willed idiot.

Rant for a Skyrim fic below:

(click to show/hide)

Again, it's not right to shame someone for having sex simply because they like to have sex.  However, I see sex as any other activity; it needs some self-imposed limitations and control, and should be called out when it's done in dumb ways and bad situations.  I also think it shouldn't be seen as something that automatically sucks all willpower out of you the second you get those funny feelings, like some fic writers seem to think happens.  I don't see being made completely incapable and incompetent by the slightest bit of arousal as empowering or positive.