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Title: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: The Illusive Man on November 14, 2013, 07:55:32 pm
I’m getting real tired of how the media is turning the implementation of the ACA into a horse race. Can someone help me make the following more publicly known?

Canceled plans are caused by insurers alone.
Blue Cross Blue Shield are scumbags, deceive their customers. (http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/10/florida-woman-s-canceled-blue-cross-plan-is-junk/index.htm)


All about grandfathered plans in plain English.
Fact sheet from www.dmhc.ca.gov (http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/library/reports/news/fsghp.pdf)

From http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu on grandfathered insurance plans:
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Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Ironchew on November 14, 2013, 09:27:18 pm
I think we should have switched to a government-run single-payer system like Medicare for all and we should have abolished the health insurance industry. Even so, I think the ACA is better than what we have now and the Republicans are desperately trying to slam on it (despite it originally being floated by the Heritage foundation) simply because it will be remembered as Obama's legacy.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 14, 2013, 09:56:50 pm
I agree with ironchewtoy on both counts.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on November 15, 2013, 12:15:09 am
Same here.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Feral Dog on November 15, 2013, 01:10:39 am
(despite it originally being floated by the Heritage foundation)

Pisses me off. It's a good idea until the black guy says it, then it's the end of the world as we know it.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Vypernight on November 15, 2013, 05:01:33 am
Florida is continuing to screw over people and blame the ACA (Scott is acting more and more like an ass every day).  While, I don't blame Obama for this, I'm waiting to see what he does about it.  I mean, he was so gungo ho about making the ACA happen, and now that people are getting screwed over, he's become pretty quiet about it.

And yes, he recently gave a speech promising to fix some problems, but I don't see anything about those including the crap happening in FL.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: Old Viking on November 15, 2013, 02:57:05 pm
This stumbling start is, I fear, a monumental blunder.  ACA was cobbled together like the Frankenstein monster to begin with.  And regardless of any merits it may have, the Repubs will use it as a cudgel forever.  I think Obama has suffered severe damage to his credibility, and from this point on will just be along for the ride.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: The Illusive Man on November 16, 2013, 02:42:52 am
This stumbling start is, I fear, a monumental blunder.  ACA was cobbled together like the Frankenstein monster to begin with.  And regardless of any merits it may have, the Repubs will use it as a cudgel forever.  I think Obama has suffered severe damage to his credibility, and from this point on will just be along for the ride.
I am curious if this will play out just like the Benghazi spam.
Title: Re: Too much misinformation about the ACA
Post by: mellenORL on November 16, 2013, 12:37:30 pm
By the time of the 2016 election, ACA will likely be functioning fine for over 18 mos, and the mercurial, fruit fly-like public attention span will be five or six "scandals" beyond it.