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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2012, 12:18:49 am »
I thought the KJV was a big deal because it was one of the first books in what is considered modern english

That's about right. English hasn't been static in the four hundred years since, but the written English of 1500, or 1400, would have been virtually as unintelligible to the literate person of 1610 as it is to us. By contrast, we can basically understand the language of 1610.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2012, 03:18:02 pm »
I have heard that some people believed KJV to be the original version. XD

If by some you mean quite a lot, then yes, you are correct. I know of people who believe English is God's language and whites are God's people. And that the calender is the way it is because Jesus said so in the Bible, and that was a high school girl that said that (she also always talks about why the rest of the world has such weird names for place).

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Seen on an actual bumper sticker:

"If the KJV was good enough for the apostles, then it's good enough for me!"

I knew at 9 why that was stupid.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2012, 05:14:05 pm »
In some circles, the KJV is also considered to be the only English translation that was "approved" by god. How they came to that conclusion, I haven't a clue, but I've seen that little factoid repeated by a number of fundies, including a few who have been quoted on the front page.

Also, I rather like the 23rd Psalm, as far as the writing is concerned. Likewise with the "To everything" verses in Ecclesiastes 3. There is no right or wrong, as far as preferences go, but personally, I prefer those passages in their older translations -- like someone else said, the newer ones lack the same "flow".
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 07:01:49 am »
The other reason, of course, is that it's largely the version of the bible that the fundies grew up with.  When they were taught the bible (or those select portions of it their preacher/parents wanted them to know), it was the good old KJV.  To say that a different version is more correct is to say that their beliefs are less correct.  That's what gives them the emotional investment.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 08:51:51 am »
I perfer the New American Bible translation, myself. The language is more contemporary but it has a nice KJV poetic flow. The original New King James removes some of the obtuse language though the later edition of NKJV goes back to the "Thees & Thous" schpeil.

The KJV/NKJV is a lovely piece of Middle-Early Modern English literature but to get all "KING JAMES ONLY" is so retarded! It's also, believe it or not, not the best translation as to being in line with the original Koine Greek/Hebrew ancient texts. Fundies love it because it confirms their prejudices. Modern translations word things in more "Religious Moderate" way, many even using "Men & Women" & "People/Persons" instead of "MEN". Also, the "RIGHTEOUS WRATH & FURY OF ALMIGHTY GAAAAWWWWDDD" is really more pronounced in "YE OLDE KING JAMES ENGLISHE!". Really! Read the passages where "God's" being a fascist goatfuck Demiurge in King James then read the same passage in a modern translation. The KJV reeks of sulphuric compounds! On the other hand, the nicer passages in KJV English are very soothing & beautiful. Frankly, the NT is the old part of the Bible I can get through. No offense to the Jewish people but NT God seems a lot saner & Jesus was one cool dude!

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 10:39:52 am »
I perfer the New American Bible translation, myself. The language is more contemporary but it has a nice KJV poetic flow. The original New King James removes some of the obtuse language though the later edition of NKJV goes back to the "Thees & Thous" schpeil.

The KJV/NKJV is a lovely piece of Middle-Early Modern English literature but to get all "KING JAMES ONLY" is so retarded! It's also, believe it or not, not the best translation as to being in line with the original Koine Greek/Hebrew ancient texts. Fundies love it because it confirms their prejudices. Modern translations word things in more "Religious Moderate" way, many even using "Men & Women" & "People/Persons" instead of "MEN". Also, the "RIGHTEOUS WRATH & FURY OF ALMIGHTY GAAAAWWWWDDD" is really more pronounced in "YE OLDE KING JAMES ENGLISHE!". Really! Read the passages where "God's" being a fascist goatfuck Demiurge in King James then read the same passage in a modern translation. The KJV reeks of sulphuric compounds! On the other hand, the nicer passages in KJV English are very soothing & beautiful. Frankly, the NT is the old part of the Bible I can get through. No offense to the Jewish people but NT God seems a lot saner & Jesus was one cool dude!

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2012, 01:30:56 am »
I personally prefer the King Jams Version, which is either a really excellent musical rendition or a pair of pajamas decorated with tiny crowns.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2012, 01:44:52 am »
I perfer the New American Bible translation, myself. The language is more contemporary but it has a nice KJV poetic flow. The original New King James removes some of the obtuse language though the later edition of NKJV goes back to the "Thees & Thous" schpeil.

The KJV/NKJV is a lovely piece of Middle-Early Modern English literature but to get all "KING JAMES ONLY" is so retarded! It's also, believe it or not, not the best translation as to being in line with the original Koine Greek/Hebrew ancient texts. Fundies love it because it confirms their prejudices. Modern translations word things in more "Religious Moderate" way, many even using "Men & Women" & "People/Persons" instead of "MEN". Also, the "RIGHTEOUS WRATH & FURY OF ALMIGHTY GAAAAWWWWDDD" is really more pronounced in "YE OLDE KING JAMES ENGLISHE!". Really! Read the passages where "God's" being a fascist goatfuck Demiurge in King James then read the same passage in a modern translation. The KJV reeks of sulphuric compounds! On the other hand, the nicer passages in KJV English are very soothing & beautiful. Frankly, the NT is the old part of the Bible I can get through. No offense to the Jewish people but NT God seems a lot saner & Jesus was one cool dude!

Though I consider myself Wiccan, I respect Christianity...provided that IT'S actually followed! True Christianity, as Jesus taught, could've changed the world for the better & brought peace to all humanity, all cultures & creeds...with it's message of humility, kindness, peace, charity, compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness, self-control, tolerance & social justice....but the established church ruined it & it became a force of pure horror!

A hearty Fuck Yeah from this atheist. :)

I personally prefer the King Jams Version, which is either a really excellent musical rendition or a pair of pajamas decorated with tiny crowns.

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2012, 07:19:09 pm »
I personally prefer the King Jams Version, which is either a really excellent musical rendition or a pair of pajamas decorated with tiny crowns.

Or delicious on toast.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2012, 07:42:49 pm »
I perfer the New American Bible translation, myself. The language is more contemporary but it has a nice KJV poetic flow. The original New King James removes some of the obtuse language though the later edition of NKJV goes back to the "Thees & Thous" schpeil.

The KJV/NKJV is a lovely piece of Middle-Early Modern English literature but to get all "KING JAMES ONLY" is so retarded! It's also, believe it or not, not the best translation as to being in line with the original Koine Greek/Hebrew ancient texts. Fundies love it because it confirms their prejudices. Modern translations word things in more "Religious Moderate" way, many even using "Men & Women" & "People/Persons" instead of "MEN". Also, the "RIGHTEOUS WRATH & FURY OF ALMIGHTY GAAAAWWWWDDD" is really more pronounced in "YE OLDE KING JAMES ENGLISHE!". Really! Read the passages where "God's" being a fascist goatfuck Demiurge in King James then read the same passage in a modern translation. The KJV reeks of sulphuric compounds! On the other hand, the nicer passages in KJV English are very soothing & beautiful. Frankly, the NT is the old part of the Bible I can get through. No offense to the Jewish people but NT God seems a lot saner & Jesus was one cool dude!

Though I consider myself Wiccan, I respect Christianity...provided that IT'S actually followed! True Christianity, as Jesus taught, could've changed the world for the better & brought peace to all humanity, all cultures & creeds...with it's message of humility, kindness, peace, charity, compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness, self-control, tolerance & social justice....but the established church ruined it & it became a force of pure horror!
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2012, 07:43:47 pm »
I perfer the New American Bible translation, myself. The language is more contemporary but it has a nice KJV poetic flow. The original New King James removes some of the obtuse language though the later edition of NKJV goes back to the "Thees & Thous" schpeil.

The KJV/NKJV is a lovely piece of Middle-Early Modern English literature but to get all "KING JAMES ONLY" is so retarded! It's also, believe it or not, not the best translation as to being in line with the original Koine Greek/Hebrew ancient texts. Fundies love it because it confirms their prejudices. Modern translations word things in more "Religious Moderate" way, many even using "Men & Women" & "People/Persons" instead of "MEN". Also, the "RIGHTEOUS WRATH & FURY OF ALMIGHTY GAAAAWWWWDDD" is really more pronounced in "YE OLDE KING JAMES ENGLISHE!". Really! Read the passages where "God's" being a fascist goatfuck Demiurge in King James then read the same passage in a modern translation. The KJV reeks of sulphuric compounds! On the other hand, the nicer passages in KJV English are very soothing & beautiful. Frankly, the NT is the old part of the Bible I can get through. No offense to the Jewish people but NT God seems a lot saner & Jesus was one cool dude!

Though I consider myself Wiccan, I respect Christianity...provided that IT'S actually followed! True Christianity, as Jesus taught, could've changed the world for the better & brought peace to all humanity, all cultures & creeds...with it's message of humility, kindness, peace, charity, compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness, self-control, tolerance & social justice....but the established church ruined it & it became a force of pure horror!

A hearty Fuck Yeah from this atheist. :)

I personally prefer the King Jams Version, which is either a really excellent musical rendition or a pair of pajamas decorated with tiny crowns.

And one for you too. :D

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