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Title: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: Chaos Undivided on April 01, 2019, 11:38:26 pm
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/01/joe-biden-second-woman-touching-1246875 (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/01/joe-biden-second-woman-touching-1246875)

Whatever the truth about these allegations is, the "Creepy Uncle Joe" crowd is going to have a field day.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2019, 04:22:00 am
Remember, it's OK to brag about sexually assaulting women as long as you're a Repugnantan and not a Demoncrat.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: Id82 on April 02, 2019, 10:22:10 am
Joe Biden is 77 years old. He might have been a decent vice president who was prone to gaffes but I really don't want him near the white house at his age. These allegations would give Republicans a field day against him.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2019, 11:37:35 am
Joe Biden is 77 years old. He might have been a decent vice president who was prone to gaffes but I really don't want him near the white house at his age. These allegations would give Republicans a field day against him.

It's not like this is the first time these sorts of things have been said about Biden. The Republicans would have had a field day with him no matter what.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: Id82 on April 02, 2019, 01:17:09 pm
 Yeah, which is why Biden shouldn't run for president. Republicans will accuse Democrats for failing to take the moral high ground.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 02, 2019, 03:13:57 pm
They'll do that no matter what.  Shit, if I ran for President, they'd no doubt crow on about me "living in sin" with my fiancee (by then wife) for several years, assuming (correctly) that we fucked eachother brainless out of wedlock whenever feasible.  Never mind that I don't have so much as a speeding ticket on my record.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: ironbite on April 02, 2019, 03:24:59 pm
The Republicans will take any little thing and try and make it as the defining character trait of any nominee.  This is what they do.  I also agree that Biden should not be running.  He had his chance in 2008 and could've made a run in 2016.  Time to step aside there Creepy Uncle Joe.

Ironbite-throw support for somebody else.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: dpareja on April 02, 2019, 05:42:33 pm
Biden would be crazy not to make a run, though. He's leading in many polls and could (I think) attract a lot of the same support Hillary Clinton did, so he'd have a decent chance of leaving anyone, even Sanders, in the dust early. (Though things will be different with the primary schedule changing again, of course--California is back on Super Tuesday this time around.)

Should he run? No. Will he? Very probably.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 03, 2019, 05:18:11 am
The longer he continues to waffle about running or not the worse I think it will be for him when he actually does enter. He'll be far behind and his first move now is going to have to be to explain his side while being respectful to his accusers. If he fucks up any of this at any point he'll probably just retire to a mildly to moderately disgraced but peaceful final decade or so of life.
Title: Re: Biden Accused of Inappropriate Touching
Post by: dpareja on April 03, 2019, 01:49:36 pm
I don't think he'll be that far behind should he announce, simply because of name recognition. Most of the candidates this time around are pretty new on the national scene (eg Harris), or, even if they'd been around for a while, didn't have great name recognition until recently (eg Sanders). Maybe Warren is the best of the lot on that front, and even then she didn't make a mark until Dodd-Frank, thanks to her getting the CFPB in there.

Biden's been a figure in national US politics for decades, so he starts from the front as far as "I know that name" is concerned.

Plus his presence in national politics for so long means he's built up a huge network, so raising money shouldn't be too much of an issue, unless all those big donors have already fully cast their lot in with others like O'Rourke or Harris, perhaps.