Sorry King - I'm hanging my head in shame...
The elect is anyone who believes in Jesus.
The elect is said to be chosen before the foundation of the World
I think I'm in shock. Amos listened to me about that there will still be people turning to God and we can't tell who will be saved, and that is why (for Amos) we need to be kind, because Jesus will not recognize anyone who is not kind and caring - example used was they did not give him clothes when they saw him on the street - and even the Elect can lose their salvation if they are not living the way a Christian should live. I guess it's like here's the rules; those who do not live by those rules won't be saved. Not that the rules are hard to follow. He wanted us to be good people, loving each other, treating each other well, helping people, comforting people. By behaving as a Christian we reflect the goodness of Christ and that gives Glory to God.
He believes that if you are brought up in a church household, that the children are also Elect but I pointed out that the only way that we are Elect is because of the belief of Jesus, and many children who come of age will leave the faith. He had not thought of that type of thing.
Yes God has "chosen" but the fact is we don't know who is and is not chosen. And everyone has until their death (or the end of times) to turn to Jesus. So anyone could be an Elect, and that is how Jesus is testing us to see if we behave in a Christian-like behaviour. The people who harass the gays could easily be losing their salvation if they are as hateful to the gays on CNN they will be the same outside and it's not love of the sinner hate of the sin. They hate them. There is no way they don't when they start demeaning them the minute they post against them.
God will be the judge of course, but if all Lutherans are like Amos (God forbid!) they don't understand that they have to love everyone and treat people the way we are supposed to treat them - like we ourselves want to be treated. Every time they are rude to a gay - or anyone else, they are going against God's Word. The problem is that they don't realize the next person that they are unloving to? Could be the one that is testing them for Jesus. That example was to emphasis that they are supposed to do what he taught us to and can lose our salvation if we choose not to.
Does that help KingOfRhye?