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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: rtvc2012 on February 03, 2012, 01:37:43 pm
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http://www.topix.com/forum/news/2012-presidential-election/TQ9N85AU8I5T8P41J/p2
"President Obama emphasized his Christian beliefs at this year's annual National Prayer Breakfast in. D.C. reports Laura MacInnis at Reuters. Citing his faith as his motivation for his support for higher taxes on the wealthy, Obama had this to say:
"But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus' teaching that 'for unto whom much is given, much shall be required,'"
But conservatives are crying foul. As David Nakamura and Michelle Boorstein of the Washington Post tell us,
Ralph Reed of the Faith and Freedom Coalition said that for the president to tie his tax policy to Jesus’s teachings “is theologically threadbare and straining credulity.â€Â
Former GOP presidential contender Rick Perry has criticized the president for his "war on religion." Then again, it wasn't long ago that Obama was being called out by groups like Americans United for Separation of Church and State for referencing God more often than his predecessor, George W. Bush."
Of course everyone knows that if Obama was a Real Krischun(TM) he'd be stoning gay people as we speak, declaring a woman's uterus to be property of the federal government, and telling the poor to FOAD, just like Jesus would've done.
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Well if the point in that verse was selfless giving then using it to justify higher taxes is slightly off. Then again this is not the worst case of misinterpretating the bible to support your cause.
Funniest arguments to this subject (on a different forum. I really should stay out of the political section of Armour archive):
I'm dumbfounded, it's like if Phelps ran for office on a "It's okay to be gay" platform. Well, not that bad, Obama's never been anti-religion (don't tell the DNC!) didn't they all bitch every time Bush said anything God-related?
Boy, it's a good thing Republicans never mention God or Jesus, where would we be?
You miss the point, it's like a Republican supporting Planned Parenthood and being against drug tests for welfare in a speech right before the election.
Because only Rebublicans can be christians, remember that kids.
Also:
"the man of great wealth owes a particular obligation to the State because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government." Theodore Roosevelt
Hmm, does particular obligation mean more taxes?
Or does it mean that people of great wealth should strive to create employment so that though working other people can be successful also?
(For the record Roosevelt was talking about taxes at that time.)
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Even if Roosevelt was talking about making jobs, the "job creators" are failing anyway.
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RR is baaaawing. Good times, and I'm sure some main page worthy stuff. http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?172551-Obama-s-Prayer-Breakfast-speech (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?172551-Obama-s-Prayer-Breakfast-speech)
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This clinches it. According to conservatards, Obama can't do anything right. This is because he's a democrat, of course. ::)
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This clinches it. According to conservatards, Obama can't do anything right. This is because he's a democrat, of course. ::)
And black...
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So people who use religion to slam gays, abortion, race, women's rights, and any other bullshit they want cry foul when Obama uses a phrase to justify taxing them?
Pot, kettle, get a fucking room!
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Well obviously since Obama is a Muslim his god is different </teatard>.
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Honestly... I know Obama's Christian, but did he honestly think pandering to the Christfags would help his cause in any way?
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I feel it is my duty to note that the 'Job Creators' are, disproportionately, the poor and middle class.
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Honestly... I know Obama's Christian, but did he honestly think pandering to the Christfags would help his cause in any way?
It is possible he is just being genuinely devout. :-\
Or he could just trying to do something about the idea that only the Right can be Religious.
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Honestly... I know Obama's Christian, but did he honestly think pandering to the Christfags would help his cause in any way?
It is possible he is just being genuinely devout. :-\
Or he could just trying to do something about the idea that only the Right can be Religious.
I don't believe anybody in a political setting these days does anything without some ulterior motive behind them. I support Obama because I agree with him on a number of issues, but trust him (or any politician)? I cannot. If I turn out to be wrong on this, I'm sorry, but it's too easy to simply assume that politicians will either lie or engage in half-truths, and it's easier to assume that they'll say what they think the public wants to hear.
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Lol, he probably shouldn't have even tried. No matter what he does, the fundies will be out for his blood.
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This clinches it. According to conservatards, Obama can't do anything right. This is because he's a democrat, of course. ::)
And black...
Don't you mean "blah"?
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Religion isn't supposed to be a bunch of "love" and "care for others" bullshit. God will punish those who don't live according to his will, which happens to be the exact way I'm living (at least the parts I'm not hiding). If you're not using your religion as a weapon to attack those who are different from you, you're doing it wrong!
The religious right actually believes this.
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Honestly... I know Obama's Christian, but did he honestly think pandering to the Christfags would help his cause in any way?
It is possible he is just being genuinely devout. :-\
Or he could just trying to do something about the idea that only the Right can be Religious.
I don't believe anybody in a political setting these days does anything without some ulterior motive behind them. I support Obama because I agree with him on a number of issues, but trust him (or any politician)? I cannot. If I turn out to be wrong on this, I'm sorry, but it's too easy to simply assume that politicians will either lie or engage in half-truths, and it's easier to assume that they'll say what they think the public wants to hear.
Call me naive, but I haven't given up hope on everyone yet.
However, I would totally be invoking Gawd all the time if I was a polititian, mainly because I'm sick of the right getting "dibs."
Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God, and telling someone to pull themselves up when you have the ability to help is unacceptable.
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Maybe he's just trying to rub it in the right's face. They're always trying to use religion to justify their batsh** bills, so maybe Obama was just throwing it back at them.
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Honestly... I know Obama's Christian, but did he honestly think pandering to the Christfags would help his cause in any way?
It is possible he is just being genuinely devout. :-\
Or he could just trying to do something about the idea that only the Right can be Religious.
I don't believe anybody in a political setting these days does anything without some ulterior motive behind them. I support Obama because I agree with him on a number of issues, but trust him (or any politician)? I cannot. If I turn out to be wrong on this, I'm sorry, but it's too easy to simply assume that politicians will either lie or engage in half-truths, and it's easier to assume that they'll say what they think the public wants to hear.
Hey, most of politics is cynical deals with strange angles, yeah. But even the most dastardly politicians will have a few genuine bits of their own personality shine through. They can’t all be Peter Sellers.