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Title: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 15, 2014, 08:18:21 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html (http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html)

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(Reuters) - The Mormon church has said that founder Joseph Smith married about 40 women including a 14-year-old and others who were already the wives of his followers, having publicly portrayed him over the years as lovingly committed to one woman.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has tried to gloss over aspects of its history, including the polygamy practiced by Smith and Brigham Young, who helped found Salt Lake City, Utah, the headquarters of the Mormon church.

"Joseph married many additional wives and authorized other Latter-day Saints to practice plural marriage," a church essay entitled "Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo" said, noting that "careful estimates put the number between 30 and 40".

The church has been widely criticized for its treatment of women, black people, who it barred from the higher priesthood until 1978, and gays, who were banned from its temples if they were sexually active.

Smith's wives were mostly between the ages of 20 and 40, but Helen Mar Kimball, the daughter of close friends, was "sealed" to him several months before she turned 15.

One woman is enough.  I can't imagine having to handle 39 others.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Ironchew on November 15, 2014, 09:17:25 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html (http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html)

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(Reuters) - The Mormon church has said that founder Joseph Smith married about 40 women including a 14-year-old and others who were already the wives of his followers, having publicly portrayed him over the years as lovingly committed to one woman.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has tried to gloss over aspects of its history, including the polygamy practiced by Smith and Brigham Young, who helped found Salt Lake City, Utah, the headquarters of the Mormon church.

"Joseph married many additional wives and authorized other Latter-day Saints to practice plural marriage," a church essay entitled "Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo" said, noting that "careful estimates put the number between 30 and 40".

The church has been widely criticized for its treatment of women, black people, who it barred from the higher priesthood until 1978, and gays, who were banned from its temples if they were sexually active.

Smith's wives were mostly between the ages of 20 and 40, but Helen Mar Kimball, the daughter of close friends, was "sealed" to him several months before she turned 15.

One woman is enough.  I can't imagine having to handle 39 others.

It's really too bad the LDS church started out in an era of rampant literacy and information sharing. They need to do what Christianity did and impose a dark age for a thousand years so that the evidence of con-artistry mysteriously disappears...
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: ironbite on November 15, 2014, 09:22:31 pm
Ahh the Church of Later Day Con-Men.

Ironbite-oh how I wish Skyfire would come back.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 15, 2014, 09:30:05 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html (http://news.yahoo.com/mormon-church-admits-founder-joseph-smith-had-40-013800819.html)

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(Reuters) - The Mormon church has said that founder Joseph Smith married about 40 women including a 14-year-old and others who were already the wives of his followers, having publicly portrayed him over the years as lovingly committed to one woman.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has tried to gloss over aspects of its history, including the polygamy practiced by Smith and Brigham Young, who helped found Salt Lake City, Utah, the headquarters of the Mormon church.

"Joseph married many additional wives and authorized other Latter-day Saints to practice plural marriage," a church essay entitled "Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo" said, noting that "careful estimates put the number between 30 and 40".

The church has been widely criticized for its treatment of women, black people, who it barred from the higher priesthood until 1978, and gays, who were banned from its temples if they were sexually active.

Smith's wives were mostly between the ages of 20 and 40, but Helen Mar Kimball, the daughter of close friends, was "sealed" to him several months before she turned 15.

One woman is enough.  I can't imagine having to handle 39 others.

It's really too bad the LDS church started out in an era of rampant literacy and information sharing. They need to do what Christianity did and impose a dark age for a thousand years so that the evidence of con-artistry mysteriously disappears...

1.  The causes of the Dark Ages and Christianity had a tenuous relationship at best.

2.  Christianity also started in a time of rampant literacy and information sharing.

3.  "The evidence mysteriously disappeared"?  Do you also think 9/11 was an inside job?

Ahh the Church of Later Day Con-Men.

Ironbite-oh how I wish Skyfire would come back.
Skyfire sounds like he was quite the character.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 15, 2014, 09:51:56 pm

3.  "The evidence mysteriously disappeared"?  Do you also think 9/11 was an inside job?


Was that SERIOUSLY called for? Shut your fucking mouth.  I'm sick and tired of you, and those like you, running your damn mouth and sniping at will.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: niam2023 on November 15, 2014, 11:23:56 pm

3.  "The evidence mysteriously disappeared"?  Do you also think 9/11 was an inside job?


Was that SERIOUSLY called for? Shut your fucking mouth.  I'm sick and tired of you, and those like you, running your damn mouth and sniping at will.

Take it to Flame and Burn. I'm sure there's a topic there very suited for your inarticulate rage. I don't think telling people to shut up is conducive to discussion.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Stormwarden on November 16, 2014, 12:10:46 am
Hey, anyone see Skyfire elsewhere? I'm rather curious as to how he's handling this revelation. For my part, I was wondering what took them so long. At any rate, it's done now.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 16, 2014, 01:08:38 am
Hey, anyone see Skyfire elsewhere? I'm rather curious as to how he's handling this revelation. For my part, I was wondering what took them so long. At any rate, it's done now.
As I recall, he posts on some Transformers fan site.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on November 16, 2014, 02:24:50 am
The Allspark, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: ironbite on November 16, 2014, 06:37:25 am
And he's banned from Politics and Religion so it means nothing to bait him
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Sleepy on November 16, 2014, 09:21:15 am

3.  "The evidence mysteriously disappeared"?  Do you also think 9/11 was an inside job?


Was that SERIOUSLY called for? Shut your fucking mouth.  I'm sick and tired of you, and those like you, running your damn mouth and sniping at will.

Am I missing something here? This response and UP's response don't seem to go together.
Title: Re: Mormon Church Admits Joseph Smith had 40 Wives
Post by: Old Viking on November 16, 2014, 04:31:24 pm
Mormons' permitting a man to have multiple wives, and the Muslim promise of 72 virgins in paradise both strike me as very generous; but they suggest a rather tenuous grasp of human physiology.