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Title: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 19, 2014, 06:09:08 pm
This is pretty pathetic.  Along with making Christianity the state religion, they also want to impose Biblical law, and make English the state language.  If you don't speak it, I assume you'd be arrested or something.  This shit hurts my brain.

Here's the article:  http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/mississippi_group_wants_to_dec.html
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: dpareja on November 19, 2014, 06:15:53 pm
This is so stupid I can only comment thusly:

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Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on November 19, 2014, 06:27:00 pm
Thank god for Mississippi. Makes us look better in comparison.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Dakota Bob on November 19, 2014, 06:35:10 pm
I guess just getting rid of Mississippi is out of the question? America could really do with less of the crazy states. I mean, you don't need TWO Carolinas do you?
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 19, 2014, 06:41:56 pm
Fucking Dominionists.  I can't wait for them to get sued into oblivion.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Ironchew on November 19, 2014, 06:51:12 pm
There's nothing unconstitutional about a state declaring an official language; 27 states have already done so.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 19, 2014, 07:23:57 pm
But, as is quite obvious, it IS unconstitutional to make a state religion or adopt religious laws.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on November 19, 2014, 07:39:40 pm
I guess just getting rid of Mississippi is out of the question? America could really do with less of the crazy states. I mean, you don't need TWO Carolinas do you?
The rest of the south functions very well, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Random Gal on November 19, 2014, 11:40:11 pm
Is it bad that I'm wondering whether we should have just let the South secede and been better off for it?
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: niam2023 on November 19, 2014, 11:43:22 pm
Or just been more thorough in the Civil War and ingrained it into their thick, honor-culture driven skulls that this shit will not be tolerated.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: dpareja on November 20, 2014, 12:44:32 am
Or just been more thorough in the Civil War and ingrained it into their thick, honor-culture driven skulls that this shit will not be tolerated.

Back then, before the Reconstruction Amendments, plenty of states--not just Southern ones--had an official religion.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Svata on November 20, 2014, 07:44:59 am
Is it bad that I'm wondering whether we should have just let the South secede and been better off for it?


Please, no. I'd be stuck here with the nutjobs then. All the reasonable people would leave, but I can't, really.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on November 20, 2014, 08:36:27 am
Or just been more thorough in the Civil War and ingrained it into their thick, honor-culture driven skulls that this shit will not be tolerated.

Back then, before the Reconstruction Amendments, plenty of states--not just Southern ones--had an official religion.
Yeah, Sherman should have gone farther.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Ironchew on November 20, 2014, 11:11:23 am
Is it bad that I'm wondering whether we should have just let the South secede and been better off for it?


Please, no. I'd be stuck here with the nutjobs then. All the reasonable people would leave, but I can't, really.

The people that want the South to break off (both inside and outside the South) don't give a shit about collateral damage, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 20, 2014, 11:23:07 am
Is it bad that I'm wondering whether we should have just let the South secede and been better off for it?


Please, no. I'd be stuck here with the nutjobs then. All the reasonable people would leave, but I can't, really.

The people that want the South to break off (both inside and outside the South) don't give a shit about collateral damage, unfortunately.

Separatists rarely do.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Old Viking on November 20, 2014, 03:39:50 pm
They speak English in Mississippi?
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Meshakhad on November 21, 2014, 01:56:42 pm
I'm not sure what people mean when they say "English should be the national language". To me, English IS the national language by virtue of being the sole language of US law.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: dpareja on November 21, 2014, 02:05:24 pm
I'm not sure what people mean when they say "English should be the national language". To me, English IS the national language by virtue of being the sole language of US law.

It is the only language in which US laws are written, true, but it's not the national language on account of there being no law defining any language as such.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Meshakhad on November 21, 2014, 02:22:24 pm
Well, what would making English the national language change?
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: dpareja on November 21, 2014, 03:07:33 pm
Well, what would making English the national language change?

Probably nothing much. It's just that since it is the de facto national language and has been so for centuries, there's no serious pressing need to make it the de jure national language.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Beezlebub on November 21, 2014, 04:32:17 pm
I guess just getting rid of Mississippi is out of the question? America could really do with less of the crazy states. I mean, you don't need TWO Carolinas do you?

Sell it to Brazil. Not only do we fix the economy, but we also give Brazil a place to put its rain forest.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 21, 2014, 06:50:52 pm
Well, what would making English the national language change?
I suspect that they are thinking it means that you can then ignore all those foreign languages (Spanish) and not have to accommodate them. Here in Canada you have a right to receive all government services in either official language; for any other language, they will see what they can do but don't hold your breath.

Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: dpareja on November 21, 2014, 07:59:53 pm
Well, what would making English the national language change?
I suspect that they are thinking it means that you can then ignore all those foreign languages (Spanish) and not have to accommodate them. Here in Canada you have a right to receive all government services in either official language; for any other language, they will see what they can do but don't hold your breath.

Many places, particularly ones with a large population of people for whom neither English nor French is their first language, will have government offices that offer services in commonly spoken other languages. I'd be pretty surprised if there was a government office in Vancouver that didn't have somebody that could serve you in Mandarin Chinese, for instance.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 22, 2014, 03:30:29 am
Well, what would making English the national language change?
I suspect that they are thinking it means that you can then ignore all those foreign languages (Spanish) and not have to accommodate them. Here in Canada you have a right to receive all government services in either official language; for any other language, they will see what they can do but don't hold your breath.

Many places, particularly ones with a large population of people for whom neither English nor French is their first language, will have government offices that offer services in commonly spoken other languages. I'd be pretty surprised if there was a government office in Vancouver that didn't have somebody that could serve you in Mandarin Chinese, for instance.
That's very true, but the government doesn't have to do that if it's not inclined to. In this particular case it sounds like people are bitter at hearing "press 1 for service in English..." and any official declaration of language would be quickly followed with the outlawing of government offices doing anything in other languages.
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: Jack Bauer on January 07, 2015, 12:49:36 am
I would have thought that they would demand that American be the 'national language'.

On second thoughts, maybe by 'English' they mean the English in which the King James Babble is written - they done goin' seventeenth century style!
Title: Re: Mississippi group ignores the Constitution
Post by: niam2023 on January 07, 2015, 01:10:30 am
So if they get their way what, do they want to stone nonbelievers to death?