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Community => Society and History => Topic started by: Mech610 on February 01, 2016, 01:55:45 pm
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In case anyone wants to crash an MRA's idiot parade, Roosh 'The Used Douche' Valizadeh has made a handy list of places the neckbeards will be congregating! Complete with a 'no girl's allowed' password, which is honestly the most hilariously adorable part of this to me.
http://www.returnofkings.com/78021/full-city-listing-and-meeting-points-for-international-meetup-day#prettyPhoto
Not sure if this sort of thread is permitted, but if it isn't, the mods can go ahead and remove it. I just figured it was relevant to our collective interests. The comment's section is pretty amusingly sad as well.
Favorite comment; "Gentlemen, we could be at the ground floor of something that is going to change the world. I use hyperbole sparingly but this may very well be a watershed moment in World History." ~ Donovan Sharpe. Oh you poor child, you never had a chance, did you?
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Eh, not my thing. It feels like going to a WBC service instead of merely pointing and laughing at them.
There's one guy here whose "allies of convenience" might drag him along for the fun, though.
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Eh, not my thing. It feels like going to a WBC service instead of merely pointing and laughing at them.
There's one guy here whose "allies of convenience" might drag him along for the fun, though.
That's fair. One of the Chicago ones is in my friend's neighborhood, so I may go hang out with her and we can stand across the street and laugh while their 'watershed moment' comes to nothing. But I'll have to see. Figured I should share it anyway, ya know?
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My personal favorite Roosh moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1V5Pi0e954
Hey, he got wet and sticky with a beautiful woman. ;D
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After damaging my brain and looking through the front page of ROK, I have discovered that Roosh has provided a handy FAQ that still doesn't explain what this meetup is exactly for, but does insist that no girls/gay guys are allowed.
http://www.returnofkings.com/78592/frequently-asked-questions-for-international-meetup-day-on-february-6
Oh man, hahahahaha! Instantly favorite'd. Thanks for sharing that! Bless Canada, bless all Canadians for this.
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After damaging my brain and looking through the front page of ROK, I have discovered that Roosh has provided a handy FAQ that still doesn't explain what this meetup is exactly for, but does insist that no girls/gay guys are allowed.
http://www.returnofkings.com/78592/frequently-asked-questions-for-international-meetup-day-on-february-6
Oh man, hahahahaha! Instantly favorite'd. Thanks for sharing that! Bless Canada, bless all Canadians for this.
Tarred and feathered him and his beard beard with beer.
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Tarred and feathered him and his beard beard with beer.
"Beard beard". It is a metabeard. The beard within a beard.
I speculate that the purpose of the meeting is to complain about girls, compare genitalia, discuss trilbies, purchase trilbies together online, trade trilbies and groom each other's neck and back hair to find and consume mites and louses.
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After damaging my brain and looking through the front page of ROK, I have discovered that Roosh has provided a handy FAQ that still doesn't explain what this meetup is exactly for, but does insist that no girls/gay guys are allowed.
Yeah, that's another problem I hear about the MRM; as much as it likes to prop itself up as being a "champion for men" and focusing on men-specific issues that "feminists/women don't care about", I've heard that the MRM as a whole (or at least its most prominent communities) is very unfriendly towards gay and trans men in general. Of course, when it's filled with "men need to fight for the right be men" types, it's not that surprising.
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After damaging my brain and looking through the front page of ROK, I have discovered that Roosh has provided a handy FAQ that still doesn't explain what this meetup is exactly for, but does insist that no girls/gay guys are allowed.
Yeah, that's another problem I hear about the MRM; as much as it likes to prop itself up as being a "champion for men" and focusing on men-specific issues that "feminists/women don't care about", I've heard that the MRM as a whole (or at least its most prominent communities) is very unfriendly towards gay and trans men in general. Of course, when it's filled with "men need to fight for the right be men" types, it's not that surprising.
Just like with feminism, it depends on the community.
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Q: Can I come if I’m a homosexual or transsexual?
A: No. This is a meeting for heterosexual men only.
...some trans men are heterosexual...
Unless of course this is about comparing genitalia.
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It should be noted that RoK explicitly denies having anything to do with the Men's Rights Movement:
http://www.returnofkings.com/7877/the-mens-rights-movement-is-no-place-for-men (http://www.returnofkings.com/7877/the-mens-rights-movement-is-no-place-for-men)
http://www.returnofkings.com/31590/5-reasons-i-am-not-a-mens-rights-activist (http://www.returnofkings.com/31590/5-reasons-i-am-not-a-mens-rights-activist)
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If that's what you guys want to tell yourselves, I can't stop you.
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They call themselves neomasculinists.
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They call themselves neomasculinists.
Which in my book, is just a pseudo-intellectual synonym for "douchebag."
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It should be noted that RoK explicitly denies having anything to do with the Men's Rights Movement:
http://www.returnofkings.com/7877/the-mens-rights-movement-is-no-place-for-men (http://www.returnofkings.com/7877/the-mens-rights-movement-is-no-place-for-men)
http://www.returnofkings.com/31590/5-reasons-i-am-not-a-mens-rights-activist (http://www.returnofkings.com/31590/5-reasons-i-am-not-a-mens-rights-activist)
Yeah, the agitate for rights for men and against feminism but say they're too hardcore to be "men's rights activists".
Judean People's Front, People's Front of Judea. Tomato tomato.
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You know, there are legit grievances that men in the United States and the United Kingdom face that do need addressing, such as a default of shared custody after a divorce, the high numbers of workplace deaths experienced by males, the high rates of male suicide, the fact that fewer and fewer men are graduating college, the fact that male victims of rape where the perpetrator is female are not taken seriously or are just told "men can't be raped," the fact that men are presumed to be the perpetrators of domestic violence even though the rates are roughly identical among other things. You know, actual issues and lack of rights that men directly face.
But somehow I don't think these jackholes will mention any of that.
Let them have their conference and call me when they decide to ditch the fedoras and talk seriously about men's rights.
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They're trilbies. These onaholes don't deserve to wear fedoras.
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It's a shame that hats are being branded with obnoxious ideologies, because really both Fedoras and Trilbys are pretty snazzy. Just for the prevention of skin cancer, people should be encouraged to wear hats. As it is I will stick to my zippered buckethat. Or 'Hat Money' as it is known.
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Hell, I wear a fedora. I'm not giving up my hat to those losers.
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Hell, I wear a fedora. I'm not giving up my hat to those losers.
We should start a movement based on the right to wear a fedora without being automatically assumed to be an MRA douchebag.
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We should do it for all fedora-like hats. Lets get Linkara in on this.
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You know, there are legit grievances that men in the United States and the United Kingdom face that do need addressing, such as a default of shared custody after a divorce, the high numbers of workplace deaths experienced by males, the high rates of male suicide, the fact that fewer and fewer men are graduating college, the fact that male victims of rape where the perpetrator is female are not taken seriously or are just told "men can't be raped," the fact that men are presumed to be the perpetrators of domestic violence even though the rates are roughly identical among other things. You know, actual issues and lack of rights that men directly face.
But somehow I don't think these jackholes will mention any of that.
Let them have their conference and call me when they decide to ditch the fedoras and talk seriously about men's rights.
They like mentioning that stuff as talking points but they do fuck all about it.
AVFM Paul Elam just seems to pocket the donations to the cause (http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/07/08/paul-elam-all-your-donations-are-belong-to-me/).
Every dollar donated goes right into my pocket. I spend that money on this website and on activist efforts at my own discretion, considering the opinions of the AVFM management team that volunteers to help run this place. … I depend on the site for my living, and to do as much FTSU as possible while I am at it.
Pretty much all these idiots do is whine and occasionally rip each other off.
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Ok, so one group of guys who hate women say that they are not part of MRA movement. Don't try to lump them in with them in that case. MRAs have their own problems and plenty of douchebags as well but why would you try to claim that they are part of the movement if they specifically say they aren't?
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I have a very good friend who used to wear a proper fedora. He's a really sweet dude who draws indie comics with a local Chicago-based studio with pretty low self-esteem to begin with and who does absolutely everything in his power to make everyone around him feel happy. That fedora was his favorite goddamn hat. And the image these morons gave it (Even though they wear trilbies, not fedoras) forced him to stop wearing it because he was terrified people would confuse him for one of them. He's an amazing dude and he and his girlfriend (Who is trans) are the most adorable, dorky couple ever. He introduced her to Gundam and we shared a hotel room at an anime convention last year and she bought so many model kits they built a fort out of them and played Street Fighter from inside it, it was adorable. So even though the 'fedora wearing neckbeard' is mostly a creation of an internet that confused fedoras for trilbies, I still choose to feel a deep sense of anger at the MRA fuckheads that made my low self esteem buddy feel even worse about himself.
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Ok, so one group of guys who hate women say that they are not part of MRA movement. Don't try to lump them in with them in that case. MRAs have their own problems and plenty of douchebags as well but why would you try to claim that they are part of the movement if they specifically say they aren't?
Return of Kings might not bill themselves as "men's rights" but Roosh mostly agitates for the interests heterosexual men, even if there are plenty of those who are yelling "dude, please don't say you represent me FFS". He tried making a gamer site specifically aimed at heterosexual dudes that crashed and burned quite thoroughly.
That said there isn't much that can be called agitation for civil rights, or even a recognition that those are a thing but plenty of anger against the civil rights of others.
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Ok, so one group of guys who hate women say that they are not part of MRA movement. Don't try to lump them in with them in that case. MRAs have their own problems and plenty of douchebags as well but why would you try to claim that they are part of the movement if they specifically say they aren't?
Return of Kings might not bill themselves as "men's rights" but Roosh mostly agitates for the interests heterosexual men, even if there are plenty of those who are yelling "dude, please don't say you represent me FFS". He tried making a gamer site specifically aimed at heterosexual dudes that crashed and burned quite thoroughly.
That said there isn't much that can be called agitation for civil rights, or even a recognition that those are a thing but plenty of anger against the civil rights of others.
...But saying that you are making a "SPESHUL MEN'S ONLY CLUB FOR 100% REAL HETEROSEXUALS!" is not the same as making a men's rights movement. Granted that everyone I've seen call themselves a MRA has been a dick and been more interested in harming women's rights than supporting men's rights...
I suppose I am getting annoying but I am a bit angry that there are real issues that men face that need attention but the entire MRA movement is only seen as dicks, feminist movement(s) have people who either think men's rights should be ignored or say that the PATRIARCHY is to blame for men's problems ...and therefore the problems should be ignored. ...And even equalitarian/equalist words are now seen as "tainted" while the feminism is seen as the true equality movement and they can ignore all their problems by going "no true scotsman" on the "bad" kinds of feminists.
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Ok, so one group of guys who hate women say that they are not part of MRA movement. Don't try to lump them in with them in that case. MRAs have their own problems and plenty of douchebags as well but why would you try to claim that they are part of the movement if they specifically say they aren't?
Because if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
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Ok, so one group of guys who hate women say that they are not part of MRA movement. Don't try to lump them in with them in that case. MRAs have their own problems and plenty of douchebags as well but why would you try to claim that they are part of the movement if they specifically say they aren't?
Because if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
...Is MRA now a synonym for a group of men who try to make a men only club and insult women and transmen? It's like this: A person can be an anti-semitist without being a neo-nazi, yes or no?
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Askold, you have a point about how you can hate them darkies but not be a klansman. But sometimes if you stand too close to a group, you get painted by the same brush.
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Well, if we're going to consider the assholes at RoK "MRAs" when they explicitly say they're not, it's only fair that we do the same for the Good Men Project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Men_Project).
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You just don't know when to stop do you?
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You just don't know when to stop do you?
Not until he's all but confirmed the possibility that he's going to this meetup because Milo and Roosh told him to.
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Someone did a documentary on MRA/Loveshy types.
https://vimeo.com/28466163 (https://vimeo.com/28466163)
Anyone want to guess why all these lovely gentlemen are virgins?
If the people are anything like the guys in the documentary, this meet up is going to consist of a day of standing around awkwardly in corners and avoiding eye contact. Occasionally someone will yell out "fuck da feminazis, trump 2016", and get a couple murmurs.
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Someone did a documentary on MRA/Loveshy types.
https://vimeo.com/28466163 (https://vimeo.com/28466163)
Anyone want to guess why all these lovely gentlemen are virgins?
Is it because the government hasn't rented them hookers to teach them how to talk to women yet? If is it because any of the girls who can help them lose said virginity are all attached to stupid alpha males whole all those poor nice guys are sick with fatties and uggos?
Or were you looking for the real answer instead of their answers?
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"Grass eating men", as the Japanese call guys like these. I've seen the documentary before, and watched it again. Maybe it's just the unfulfilled granny within me, but I really feel sorry for all these guys. Most either suffer low self esteem from self-imposed habitual isolation, and there are some who clearly are not fairing well due to Asperger's. The stupid shit they believe is why they are unhappy. A lot of them seem to have way above average intelligence, but it's so terribly wasted and misapplied. Really, what these young'uns need is some solid grooming advice, some dentistry and dermatology treatment, some antianxiety meds, and shit loads of fresh air and sunshine. All that could make it easier for them to gain experience and confidence in social situations. The hateful shit they say about women is just warped, false bravado spouted out from shame about their angst. They resent what they "can't" (won't) achieve. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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This cracked (http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-ways-you-can-accidentally-become-social-outcast/) article is topical, 7 Ways You Can Accidentally Become A Social Outcast. If someone is feeling like they are at the bottom of the social pile then good advice can just sound like more snide put downs from the cool kids which in turn feeds their victim complex.
I get that getting Elliot Rodger types out of their online echo chambers where they feed each others bitterness and rage is in the public interest but it's not as easy as it looks. Last time they came to FSTDT proboards people gave them what's actually not bad advice. Get a shower, deal with your issues, actually talk to-you know, women. From an objective standpoint that's absolutely what they need to do. From the perspective of someone who's rage comes from every school bully who made them feel like shit and a social structure that told them they're worthless and is directing that hate towards the women they desire it can sound smug and condescending, hell sometimes it is. The Kiwi Farms thread certainly was.
In the end people giving them advice to get their house in order ended up getting frustrated and angry in the face of all the "NO-the deck is stacked against me. You don't UNDERSTAND". And those were just the people who were trying to help them in good faith. My fear is that all the contempt and scorn that these love-shy types generate feeds into their frankly dangerous victim and martyr complex.
I dunno what to do with this one. Advice gets hurled back at you, pointing and laughing might be feeding the already metastasizing hatred-polyps of another angry man who might someday direct violence against the objects of his desire. Anyone else? I'm stumped.
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When they're that bad off, they need in-patient treatment. Cognitive therapy, healthy food, and some will need meds. An "Outward Bound" type program might help instill some self confidence and a sense of achievement, while getting them into better trim.
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Sadly many western countries, the US, Canada and Australia included make in-patient mental care bloody hard to get without a fistfull of dollars, and that's for people with full blown schizophrenia, bipolar and/or clinical depression let alone social anxiety.
Also, loneliness, bitterness and victim complexes aren't necessarily mental illnesses-though they can correlate with them. The problem with these guys lies in their outlook, and that's a social perspective not a phantasm bourne of mental illness.
I actually get why a lot of people choose to feel angry and blame society when they feel like this, it can feel a heck of a lot more empowering than admitting that you feel sad and blaming others is a lot less thorny than taking agency for your own life.
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As it turns out they have cancelled their meeting anyway. http://pedestrian.tv/news/entertainment/return-of-kings-forced-to-cancel-global-meet-ups-o/3f66bed2-a099-4618-8873-a4b006af2a96.htm (http://pedestrian.tv/news/entertainment/return-of-kings-forced-to-cancel-global-meet-ups-o/3f66bed2-a099-4618-8873-a4b006af2a96.htm)
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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It was probably a good idea to cancel it though. I know Tol and Mellon have softer feelings about these guys but I can understand why people might want to beat the shit out of these guys. Although to conform with their world view, you would have to wait until you were in a private place with them before assaulting them.
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Here's confirmation from ROK as well;
http://www.returnofkings.com/79537/announcement-the-meetup-on-february-6-is-cancelled
My favorite part is that they're down in the comments claiming victory because this 'drove more people to Roosh's blog and filled his war chest'.
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...that's kinda awful actually. Any group should have the right to meet without fearing for their safety, even if they are PUAs or neomasculinists or whatever they call themselves.
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I'd feel more sorry for them if they didn't themselves advocate keeping half the population in fear.
Some of them are quite dramatic. Reminiscent of something someone said here:
"As disheartened as I am about the cancellation of the meetups, we can learn from this debacle. I recommended to Roosh on twitter that we should have a process in place to screen men and only after they are vetted do they learn of meetups, strategy ect.....
We are men, we adapt and overcome any obstacle that has ever stood before us. This is what we do. I have no fear that the raw determination of those in our movement will be successful.
My 2 cents."
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It was probably a good idea to cancel it though. I know Tol and Mellon have softer feelings about these guys but I can understand why people might want to beat the shit out of these guys. Although to conform with their world view, you would have to wait until you were in a private place with them before assaulting them.
My comment was specific to the boys in that documentary film posted earlier. Roosh and other savages like him can fuck right off and die.
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I suspect most of the members of ROK are pretty much like those boys on the documentary but maybe with the added bravado of being incognito. Roosh on the otherhand sees them as suckers to be fleeced.
I still kind of have a hankering to punch them. Even though I know violence is not the answer.
(The question is 'violence' the answer is 'yes')
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http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/08/14/are-roosh-vs-bang-books-how-to-guides-for-date-rape/
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2012/08/25/roosh-the-pua-dude-women-are-lubricated-holes-that-exist-mostly-for-a-mans-sexual-pleasure/
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/12/20/roosh-v-hates-muslims-loves-ancient-muslim-wisdom-on-feral-unconstrained-women/
Yeah, I'm not exactly losing much sleep over how unsafe this guy's cult feels.
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It was probably a good idea to cancel it though. I know Tol and Mellon have softer feelings about these guys but I can understand why people might want to beat the shit out of these guys. Although to conform with their world view, you would have to wait until you were in a private place with them before assaulting them.
My comment was specific to the boys in that documentary film posted earlier. Roosh and other savages like him can fuck right off and die.
Seconded, Roosh isn't a lonely nerd. He's a rapist piece of shit that wants to enable other rapist filth like him.
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Roosh is a textbook corruptive sociopath - it was his narratives and others like him / inspired by him that turned Eliott Rodger from "the awkward rich kid sitting by himself" to "HOLY SHIT HE'S INSANE!!"
I doubt the massacre would've happened were it not for Roosh and his team's devotion to spreading "neo-masculinity" / "A Real Man Is A Killer". His words are often extremely militaristic and let these people who're in the shitpit feel like they can escape it by being frightening and dangerous and working for this vague "Restore the Patriarchy" end Roosh wants.
Similarly, without Roosh's manipulative words and militaristic notions, would that old fuck from Louisiana actually have gotten the idea to do what he did at the Amy Schumer flick? I doubt it.
Most of these people are utterly dysfunctional, bitter loners from what I've heard - and by and large, despite the stereotype, loners aren't especially dangerous...unless they're given a belief system like neo-masculism.
Essentially, Roosh architected the creation of a twisted martyr for his own side, and used this to inspire more deranged neo-masculinists to take up arms or be more violent and confrontational than they otherwise would be.
Forget Dean Saxton - he rambles. Roosh is the real "Philosopher of Rape". After all, who gets more invitations to speak at these hate conventions? Brother Dean? Or Roosh?
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The True Finns' party publication made the conclusion that this is a planned group sexual harassment event by the refugees similar to the incidents on New Year's Eve. Seriously (in Finnish). (https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/vokeissa-kiertaa-huolestuttavia-viesteja-toistuvatko-uudenvuoden-tapahtumat-helsingissa/) They went as far as claming that the invitations are being spread in the reception centres. Unfortunately the meeting in Helsinki was cancelled - it would have been awesome if the street patrols and/or police would have gone there to "protect the women" and ended up scaring the shit out of some loveshy types.
Edit: Oops. They actually had a source: the fucking police. YLE also interviewed a police about the investigation (http://yle.fi/uutiset/poliisi_vahvistaa_joukkojaan_helsingissa_lauantaina__uudenvuoden_tapahtumat_voivat_toistua/8653250). The police seriously thinks this is connected to the refugees and the New Year's Eve incidents. *Facedesk*.
Edit 2: Oops again. I reread the articles in a less agitated state of mind. It's the other way around: the police has started their investigation and increased their patrols based on the rumors spread by the anti-immigration side of the social media. They are doing it just in case there is anything behind the rumors since better safe than sorry.
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That's some pretty cheap-n-dirty IRL trolling, right there.
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The True Finns' party publication made the conclusion that this is a planned group sexual harassment event by the refugees similar to the incidents on New Year's Eve. Seriously (in Finnish). (https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/vokeissa-kiertaa-huolestuttavia-viesteja-toistuvatko-uudenvuoden-tapahtumat-helsingissa/) They went as far as claming that the invitations are being spread in the reception centres. Unfortunately the meeting in Helsinki was cancelled - it would have been awesome if the street patrols and/or police would have gone there to "protect the women" and ended up scaring the shit out of some loveshy types.
Edit: Oops. They actually had a source: the fucking police. YLE also interviewed a police about the investigation (http://yle.fi/uutiset/poliisi_vahvistaa_joukkojaan_helsingissa_lauantaina__uudenvuoden_tapahtumat_voivat_toistua/8653250). The police seriously thinks this is connected to the refugees and the New Year's Eve incidents. *Facedesk*.
Edit 2: Oops again. I reread the articles in a less agitated state of mind. It's the other way around: the police has started their investigation and increased their patrols based on the rumors spread by the anti-immigration side of the social media. They are doing it just in case there is anything behind the rumors since better safe than sorry.
a) I was going to write about this when I got home but you made it first. I WAS going to mention the police thing but got sidetracked and you managed to mention that too.
b) Roosh has claimed that his "pro-rape" article was written as a parody much like "A modest proposal." ...Whether that is true or just backpedaling this story is a very long line of misunderstandings and straight up lies.
Roosh wrote a thing and got a reputation as a pro-rape dude. When he decided to do his meet-up thingy there was worldwide anger at him and feminist groups threatened to interrupt the meetings, some even threatened with physical violence. And finally, racists in Finland used the story to imply that the Return of Kings is made up of islamists who try to incite the other refugees to start massed sexual assaults...
I'm glad that the cops didn't join in on the hate train because at that point I would have started sending job applications to foreign companies.
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...that's kinda awful actually. Any group should have the right to meet without fearing for their safety, even if they are PUAs or neomasculinists or whatever they call themselves.
You're absolutely right. No group should be afraid of harm if they meet in public, not even the most hateful ones. I despise Roosh and his ilk, but that doesn't mean I think human rights don't apply to him.
Besides, all this is going to do is feed their persecution complex.
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I'm not going to be backwards over how I feel that this guy is getting what is coming for him. Seriously karma is a thing. What I don't like is the fact that someone doxxed his parents. That's just no bueno.
Ironbite-like at all.
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
Karma is what you yell when someone who pisses you off gets their dose of schadenfreude.
We don't have a word for those who skate along merrily unaffected by fallout from their misdeeds, amrak maybe?
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
Karma is what you yell when someone who pisses you off gets their dose of schadenfreude.
They don't get schadenfreude, you get schadenfreude. It means taking pleasure from someone else's misfortune. Barring multiple personalities that do not get along, they're not getting any schadenfreude from their own misfortune whatsoever.
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I'm offended that this rally was on my birthday and they didn't even invite me.
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
Karma is what you yell when someone who pisses you off gets their dose of schadenfreude.
They don't get schadenfreude, you get schadenfreude. It means taking pleasure from someone else's misfortune. Barring multiple personalities that do not get along, they're not getting any schadenfreude from their own misfortune whatsoever.
What if they're a masochist? Can they get self-schadenfreude?
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
Karma is what you yell when someone who pisses you off gets their dose of schadenfreude.
They don't get schadenfreude, you get schadenfreude. It means taking pleasure from someone else's misfortune. Barring multiple personalities that do not get along, they're not getting any schadenfreude from their own misfortune whatsoever.
What if they're a masochist? Can they get self-schadenfreude?
I believe it's specifically someone else'e misfortune, so probably not. I could be wrong, though/
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Seriously karma is a thing.
No, it isn't.
Karma is what you yell when someone who pisses you off gets their dose of schadenfreude.
They don't get schadenfreude, you get schadenfreude. It means taking pleasure from someone else's misfortune. Barring multiple personalities that do not get along, they're not getting any schadenfreude from their own misfortune whatsoever.
What if they're a masochist? Can they get self-schadenfreude?
I believe it's specifically someone else'e misfortune, so probably not. I could be wrong, though/
What if their multiple personality was really convincing?
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While the whole "Rape on Private Property" was poorly written satire, Rooshv actually confessed to being a rapist in one of his books.
While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was.
In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she legally couldn’t give her consent.
It didn’t help matters that I was sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.
https://daryushvalizadeh.wordpress.com/2015/08/02/rooshv-describes-how-he-raped-two-passed-out-drunk-girls/
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That wasn't satire. That was a straight up opinion he holds. It was only made satire after someone pointed out how much damage it does to his own self-image.
Ironbite-you can't slap a satire label on something when you hold that to be a core belief.
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That wasn't satire. That was a straight up opinion he holds. It was only made satire after someone pointed out how much damage it does to his own self-image.
Ironbite-you can't slap a satire label on something when you hold that to be a core belief.
But some will if they want to cover their arses down the track!
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That wasn't satire. That was a straight up opinion he holds. It was only made satire after someone pointed out how much damage it does to his own self-image.
Ironbite-you can't slap a satire label on something when you hold that to be a core belief.
So he pulled a Tommy Wiseau. Except far more loathsome.