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He's used to debating 20-something people on subjects that he himself has studied. He himself does not answer questions, he pulls out stats and whatnot and is on the offensive, sidestepping questions and then makes edited clips about the best "owning the libs" moments. One of the more important aspects in his style of debating is to make sure that nothing is about him or his beliefs. Always put the focus on the other person so that you can point out their flaws but never allow yourself to be the focus and never admit to holding a position because that position could be flawed.

Then he ended up in an interview...

Where he is supposed to answer questions AND explain his positions and arguments in the book. That's not what he is used to, that's where he is the weakest. So of course he panicked, he might have been forced to admit something of his own beliefs. Granted that answering the questions normally would been less embarrassing that practically running away crying after accusing the right-wing interviewer of being a leftist, but in a panic he fell back to his normal playstyle.
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by Kanzenkankaku on Today at 02:22:44 am »
one more for the paragon pile: that same "chop up my opponent's post and respond to each section individually" style. one, maybe two, paragon bells can be chalked up to coincidence but at this point, nah

In fairness, that's how I reply to a lot of posts.

Wait, am I Paragon?

Are there any other Paragons I should know about?
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Never forget Mr "Facts don't care about your feelings" flipped out on BBC and self-owned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUP4uJto99w&t=3s

He defended the Alabama Abortion ban shit even.
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on May 21, 2019, 10:00:09 pm »
Except I've never made any bones of what I am. Whereas you calculatedly conceal your real loyalties, and everyone can see it. I am amoral, and I've never pretended to be anything but. You on the other hand, along with other "secret" altright / "classical liberals" love to cloak yourselves in acceptability and try to seem like anything but what you really are.

That's a bold claim. Why don't you let me examine your evidence?

And that is far less of an argument about Sargon and Shapiro when Andrew Anglin endorsed Sargon, and explicitly called him a gateway to the alt-right, with numerous other gross little creatures voicing similar opinions, and a number of people testified that they fell into the alt-right, wouldn't you know it, starting via Shapiro and Sargon's youtube videos.

Yes, and I'm sure a number of people started with weed before moving on to something more serious, like meth or heroin. Does that mean anybody who smokes marijuana will start using harder drugs? No. Hell, it doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't have used hard drugs if they hadn't smoked pot.

And have you considered the possibility that these alt-right figures were lying in an attempt at accelerationism (for lack of a better word)? There are plenty of alt-righters who've admitted they want to increase tensions, if not outright start a conflict. Not necessarily saying they were, just that it's a possibility given what we know about the alt-right.

You were the one who first linked to the Kiwifarms wiki. That's on you. Don't try and deflect it on Skybison.

Oh, so now I just linked to the wiki! Well, that's not what you claimed I did earlier:

He quite openly referenced a Kiwifarms trans conspiracy theory, didn't see anything wrong with it for the longest time, and only retracted when it was brought to the forum's attention much later.

Ref?



Thank you

Not liking the movie is a problem issue because you kept trying to shift the discussion to "is there not a good reason to dislike it?" When the discussion topic was about the various alt-right trolls and agents bombarding the flick with negativity.

No, the discussion topic was about Russian bots allegedly stirring up hatred against TLJ. I did some digging and proved that the narrative was based on a very flawed study and said study's conclusions were greatly exaggerated. And you're the one who shifted the discussion to whether there were good reasons to dislike it with this:

The backlash primarily came from literal human garbage that has no business in prominence.

But then, we've dealt with guys who carry water for salty, bigoted nerdwads before.

Why don't you join dave in the liars' corner? Then again, I should've expected dishonesty from a sociopath.

And wouldn't you look at THAT - the website you trust and linked to was, on a little trip to Rationalwiki, easily proven to be a libertarian rag. They've hosted holocaust deniers, reconstructionists like Gary North, and supporters of Apartheid. Not exactly a reasonable website. They deny climate change, and have quite a loathsome crowd of readers. Ergo, they have quite a vested interest in protecting the esteem of a right wing indoctrination center like Covington Catholic. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that school made being a Democrat an expellable offense.

Giving someone a platform isn't endorsing their views. MSNBC had Pat Buchanan on its payroll for years. You know, the same "paleoconservative" asshole left-wingers and right-wingers alike have repeatedly denounced as an anti-Semite? Should we say MSNBC hates Jews as much as he does? And why would a climate-change denying outlet publish an article like this?

No doubt Reason has its biases. I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if they didn't. But so does Rational Wiki and just about every other publisher (for want of a better term). Rejecting everything Reason says just because of its biases is downright fallacious.

Even if your characterization of Reason is right, that doesn't mean the article is wrong. Have you watched the full video?

David Hogg never tried to intimidate a Native American veteran and has been nothing but peaceful, while that vile little cretin has gone about suing just about everyone who published a nonflattering account of his aggressive actions. Sounds like he'll be a new Trump in a few years.

Neither did Sandmann. Smiling at somebody beating a drum in your face is not "trying to intimidate" them. And he's suing them for defamation. Was it wrong for Richard Jewell to sue the outlets that almost ruined his life over something he never did?

Since we're on the topic, I have a direct question. Were the death threats Sandmann received wrong?

Also, can I talk to the mods? Publicly?

one more for the paragon pile: that same "chop up my opponent's post and respond to each section individually" style. one, maybe two, paragon bells can be chalked up to coincidence but at this point, nah

In fairness, that's how I reply to a lot of posts.

Wait, am I Paragon?


Nah, I'd say the real Paragon was the friends we made along the way.
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by davedan on May 21, 2019, 05:35:51 pm »
one more for the paragon pile: that same "chop up my opponent's post and respond to each section individually" style. one, maybe two, paragon bells can be chalked up to coincidence but at this point, nah

In fairness, that's how I reply to a lot of posts.

Wait, am I Paragon?

Given how pedantic  you are and your inability to simply agree with people who share your views, I would be fucking impressed if you were. But your not.
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by dpareja on May 21, 2019, 04:14:54 pm »
one more for the paragon pile: that same "chop up my opponent's post and respond to each section individually" style. one, maybe two, paragon bells can be chalked up to coincidence but at this point, nah

In fairness, that's how I reply to a lot of posts.

Wait, am I Paragon?
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by fluffyDbringer on May 21, 2019, 03:30:41 pm »
one more for the paragon pile: that same "chop up my opponent's post and respond to each section individually" style. one, maybe two, paragon bells can be chalked up to coincidence but at this point, nah

have you stopped defending child porn on 8chan on yet, paragon
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Suggestion Box / Re: Can we just talk?
« Last post by RavynousHunter on May 21, 2019, 03:16:23 pm »
I think the 4chan meme here that's most apropos is "never reveal your power level."

But they always do, because pretending to be something you're not is just really fucking hard for alt righters who are ruled by their lizard brains and usually fuck up their carefully planned pantomimes by leaking like an uncontrolled urinator on their way back from the Guinness Brewery.

I used to know of a dude that would leak when he got wood.  I ain't talking urine, either.
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The ideology is the religion. All observable facts must be contorted to fit or, if they won't fit, denied or disregarded.
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Politics and Government / Ben Shapiro Caught Talking Up Trump's Detention Camps
« Last post by niam2023 on May 21, 2019, 02:14:58 am »
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/ben-shapiro-people-actually-are-being-treated-pretty-humanely-in-detention-centers/

Ah I am sure he is not a gateway drug to membership in one alt-right thug group or another.

Doesn't this remind anyone of anything else? You know "oh those Jews? They're having so much fun in those camps. So much fun." And this is even more vile when one remembers Ben is from a Jewish family. What the fuck Ben?
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