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Offline davedan

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6300 on: June 30, 2020, 09:53:43 pm »
This is classic Garrison. Just a little light on the racism:

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« Reply #6301 on: July 01, 2020, 01:44:06 pm »
This is classic Garrison. Just a little light on the racism:

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I'd call it Classic Moron myself...

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6302 on: July 08, 2020, 05:39:27 am »
Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus

Just admit you want to call them "The Deep State", but you don't want people to think you're crazy as shit.

This reads like pure conspiracy-mongering. You have no proof about your assertions, any more than the average Trump Supporter rambling on about the Deep State. Pelosi's been incredibly competent in minimizing losses during the Trump years, so I'd be interested in hearing who you'd think might be a "better speaker of the house".

But then, I'm a damn dirty corporate democrat myself, so...I guess I'm just corrupt from a base level.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/democrats-just-handed-trump-more-domestic-surveillance-powers-they-should-ncna836836
Keep putting your fingers in your ears and yelling fake news and projecting on levels only MAGApedes and IMAX had reached lol.

She only a couple months ago had to postpone the vote on renewing it when forced to by better congressional leaders
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fisa-renewal-limbo-284025 (I originally got a hit for this story from the NY Post but replaced it with Politico because the Post is a godawful shitrag that deserves no clicks. I'm so glad I had adblock on when I ended up on that hell website)

And we see this again unfortunately with the PATRIOT extension in November last year that names several generally progressive people who capitulated unfortunately
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/26/progressives-in-congress-just-capitulated-on-the-patriot-act-its-time-to-push-back/

Then the lack of coverage for the freshly unemployed that as of yet hasn't been added afaik
https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/laid-off-workers-lost-health-coverage-coronavirus/

Not to mention Pelosi rolling over and voting for something literally nicknamed the "Blue Lives Matter" bill
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/blue-lives-matter-bill-police-brutality/
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll188.xml (link to the house voting sheet)
Important to note that more solid progressive leaders like Jayapal,Barbara Lee, and Maxine Waters all voted AGAINST the bill. Not to mention orgs like the NAACP, the ACLU, and Human Rights Watch suggesting to vote no.

Then theres stuff like FOSTA/SESTA which harmed sex workers which she's failed to lead on, while her challenger Shahid Buttar has been vocal about fixing the problems of, as had Elizabeth Warren, who was calling for investigations into those laws
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/12/17/fosta-sesta-elizabeth-warren-international-day-end-violence-sex-workers-trans-rights/

It's not a conspiracy theory at all to state how much she fails in many regards as a leader. Any number of people would make good speakers: Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, literally any of the Squad upon a couple more terms of experience. That's just off the top of my head, as I don't know literally every democrat in the HoR since there's several hundred last I checked.

I'm just a bit frustrated at all of this. To her credit she has staunchly opposed Trump on bombing Yemen and Iran warmongering, but I can't trust her to do the same should a democrat be in the presidency like how she just let Obama bomb Libya into smithereens and left it worse than it was beforehand. I just want somebody who is consistent in standing against abuse of authority rather than "eh maybe sometimes I'll do that if you really force me to" but being otherwise complicit.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6303 on: July 15, 2020, 01:39:06 am »
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« Reply #6304 on: July 17, 2020, 12:44:48 am »


I'm not entirely sure I understand this cartoon.
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« Reply #6305 on: July 17, 2020, 12:52:22 am »
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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« Reply #6306 on: July 17, 2020, 01:13:25 am »
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.

By "socialism", do you mean things like command economies and social ownership of the means of production? Or do you mean things like bailouts and economic stimulus?
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« Reply #6307 on: July 17, 2020, 08:27:04 am »
Bailouts and economic stimulus.
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« Reply #6308 on: July 17, 2020, 11:06:34 am »
Bailouts and economic stimulus.

Yes, that. Government largesse, basically.

Now, of course, the US has a socialist system, but only for rich people and large corporations, as Dr. King observed.

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Whenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6309 on: July 17, 2020, 05:18:27 pm »
Bailouts and economic stimulus.

Yes, that. Government largesse, basically.

Now, of course, the US has a socialist system, but only for rich people and large corporations, as Dr. King observed.

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Whenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.

I've long been critical of corporate welfare, but it's not "socialism for the rich". Despite what some wingnuts and lolbertarians like to say, there's nothing inherently socialist about welfare.

And even if it were, then we don't have "socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor". I don't know what things were like in the 60s, but nowadays, the US federal government spends between $200 billion and $1 trillion on welfare every year, depending on how welfare is defined.
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« Reply #6310 on: July 18, 2020, 12:14:37 am »
^I think that's the point.  Conservatives who attack welfare programs and equate them with socialism generally don't have a problem with government intervention that helps them.  I agree that welfare programs aren't the same thing as socialism but the terms have become so interchangeable because of right wingers calling everything they don't like socialist that I don't think it's worth getting technical about it.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6311 on: August 19, 2020, 03:38:13 am »
While this is classic Garrison I am really craving Garrison's sexy Kamala Harrison cartoons:

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #6312 on: August 19, 2020, 03:44:22 pm »
I mean... he's not wrong. And a lot of those are contradictions (except for the Indian/Black bit, since her ancestry makes her both).
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
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« Reply #6314 on: August 30, 2020, 11:47:57 pm »
That pictures scary.
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